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    I’m surprised Wally didn’t beat me to it, but the Cougs has a preaseason game against UVU last weekend. They won the match 3-0, but it was not a convincing win.

    The Good:

    Roni Perry’s hitting in the 2nd and 3rd sets
    Mary Lake’s digging
    Heather Gneiting in the middle

    Freshman Madi Robinson as an OPP

    The Bad:

    Passing and setting. RJP in particular looks to have taken a step back defensively.

    RJP’s first set

    The Ugly:

    McKenna Miller’s entire match. It’s hard to believe she was a 3rd team AA as a freshman.
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    It was pretty ugly match but I'm not going to infer much from it. To me BYU can make the final four if the following happens:

    1. BYU gets good (doesn't need to be great) production on the right side. Maybe (as Green Monstah hints) Madi Robinson can do it. She jumps really well. Robinson is a bit undersized so it would be nice if Ballard gets healthy enough to give Olmstead flexibility based on the matchup.

    Not sure anything else needs to happen. Sure, improved setting would help but I think we know Haddock-Eppich's ceiling given this is her third year starting. Yes, she didn't have a great match. She really seemed to struggle back-setting the slide to Gneiting. The only good sets on the slide I can remember were really more like side-sets. I think she'll be a solid workman like setter going forward, but I also think that's her ceiling (although she's very good at non-setter things for a setter).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    It was pretty ugly match but I'm not going to infer much from it. To me BYU can make the final four if the following happens:

    1. BYU gets good (doesn't need to be great) production on the right side. Maybe (as Green Monstah hints) Madi Robinson can do it. She jumps really well. Robinson is a bit undersized so it would be nice if Ballard gets healthy enough to give Olmstead flexibility based on the matchup.

    Not sure anything else needs to happen. Sure, improved setting would help but I think we know Haddock-Eppich's ceiling given this is her third year starting. Yes, she didn't have a great match. She really seemed to struggle back-setting the slide to Gneiting. The only good sets on the slide I can remember were really more like side-sets. I think she'll be a solid workman like setter going forward, but I also think that's her ceiling (although she's very good at non-setter things for a setter).
    What is Gneiting's ceiling? I've been excited to see her play since she signed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    What is Gneiting's ceiling? I've been excited to see her play since she signed.
    Ceiling career <- best middle blocker in the country

    Ceiling this year <- All WCC ... best middle WCC
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    Ceiling career <- best middle blocker in the country

    Ceiling this year <- All WCC ... best middle WCC
    That's a reason to be excited.
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    I'm officially worried about Roni Jones-Perry. Something is not right. I'm not sure if it's an injury or just being out of shape, but a lot of her problems with control/location stem from the fact that she's not elevating enough to really put the ball down. It's something I see in club volleyball a lot with hitters who are not at 100%. RJP also didn't play the 2nd-4th sets on Saturday.

    ON the other hand, I'm pretty stoked for Madi Robinson. I don't recall if she played in the Friday match vs. Duke, but she definitely showed up offensively and defensively on Saturday. She's a better hitter than Lacey Haddock (although Lacey's serving is outstanding...the Duke players could not pass her serves either day).

    Haddock-Eppich had a great Friday match, but not so much on Saturday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post
    I'm officially worried about Roni Jones-Perry. Something is not right. I'm not sure if it's an injury or just being out of shape, but a lot of her problems with control/location stem from the fact that she's not elevating enough to really put the ball down. It's something I see in club volleyball a lot with hitters who are not at 100%. RJP also didn't play the 2nd-4th sets on Saturday.

    ON the other hand, I'm pretty stoked for Madi Robinson. I don't recall if she played in the Friday match vs. Duke, but she definitely showed up offensively and defensively on Saturday. She's a better hitter than Lacey Haddock (although Lacey's serving is outstanding...the Duke players could not pass her serves either day).

    Haddock-Eppich had a great Friday match, but not so much on Saturday.
    Madi had the best topspin jumper in the state last year at LP. I look forward to her unleashing it as she get confident.

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    Team looked great last night, but I'm guessing West Virginia is probably in the ranking range of 100-150. At home, BYU should smoke teams in that range and they did. WVU was just a really poor passing team. Probably the best news was RJP looked like her old self (very explosive off the floor). Potentially a great match tonight so if you're in Utah County I suggest you make your way down to the SFH:


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    What an incredible match tonight! RJP was amazing, especially in sets 1,2 and 5. Huge down the stretch in the fifth. Unfortunately Miller was MIA for much of the match. Mary lake was unbelievable as usual. MB was solid for BYU.

    Stanford is really good, but there isn’t a huge talent gap between the two teams and I’d take the lady cougars in close to five out of ten matches.


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    Wow!!! Great win.

    So much for RJP being down. She was incredible.
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    My 13YO went to this game with some friends and is deliriously happy. Reminds me of how I felt watching BYU games as a kid. She is converted and I am thrilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    My 13YO went to this game with some friends and is deliriously happy. Reminds me of how I felt watching BYU games as a kid. She is converted and I am thrilled.
    It was a really great atmosphere. Loud the whole time, and almost deafening in the 5th.

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    Great to see them pull it out, as after they lost third and fourth set, I was worried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    My 13YO went to this game with some friends and is deliriously happy. Reminds me of how I felt watching BYU games as a kid. She is converted and I am thrilled.
    Wally must be so happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoose View Post
    What an incredible match tonight! RJP was amazing, especially in sets 1,2 and 5. Huge down the stretch in the fifth. Unfortunately Miller was MIA for much of the match. Mary lake was unbelievable as usual. MB was solid for BYU.

    Stanford is really good, but there isn’t a huge talent gap between the two teams and I’d take the lady cougars in close to five out of ten matches.


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    Miller was MIA? I missed that.

    We struggled to get our middles involved and went through 3 different OPP.

    I like the depth Heather is creating at the pin. We need Ballard or someone to step up and become an OPP so we aren’t using a 5’10” or 5’11” OPP against 6’5” OH. Regardless, our pin depth is better than last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    Miller was MIA? I missed that.

    We struggled to get our middles involved and went through 3 different OPP.

    I like the depth Heather is creating at the pin. We need Ballard or someone to step up and become an OPP so we aren’t using a 5’10” or 5’11” OPP against 6’5” OH. Regardless, our pin depth is better than last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    Miller was MIA? I missed that.
    Yeah, I thought Miller had a pretty solid outing; obviously she wasn't other worldly on the offensive end like RJP was, but RJP outplayed the best OH in the game. Miller's hitting percentage was around 0.150 but in the 3rd and 4th sets she was set a whole bunch of trash (I don't blame Eppich for that ... passing was bad in those sets ... Stanford was able to consistently target RJP on the serve and RJP struggled a bit). I also thought Miller served well.

    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    We struggled to get our middles involved and went through 3 different OPP.

    I like the depth Heather is creating at the pin. We need Ballard or someone to step up and become an OPP so we aren’t using a 5’10” or 5’11” OPP against 6’5” OH. Regardless, our pin depth is better than last year.
    I didn't notice that; I only remember Robinson and Haddock at opposite. I didn't think Stetler logged any time in the front. But it's absolutely amazing they beat Stanford with almost no production on the right side. Ballard did get in against WSU at the very end so maybe that indicates she is getting healthier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Lol never change K-Dog. Love your use of “Heather” letting us all know she’s a close personal friend.


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    BYU moves up to #3; I think that's probably a little too high (if they had a reliable RS hitter I would feel differently). Also, I still think Stanford is the best team. That said, if BYU can beat USC and a pretty solide Marquette team this week then hosting in the NCAA tournament for the first four rounds becomes attainable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    BYU moves up to #3; I think that's probably a little too high (if they had a reliable RS hitter I would feel differently). Also, I still think Stanford is the best team. That said, if BYU can beat USC and a pretty solide Marquette team this week then hosting in the NCAA tournament for the first four rounds becomes attainable.

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    I thought Miller was nails against Stanford. I actually don’t recall Robinson playing that match. One rotation RJP played OPP, then Haddock played when Eppich was back row. At least that’s how I remember it.

    At any rate, great match. Tons of fun to watch.

    X factor was the block, and it wasn’t necessarily our MBs. The Haddocks and RJP were awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post
    I thought Miller was nails against Stanford. I actually don’t recall Robinson playing that match. One rotation RJP played OPP, then Haddock played when Eppich was back row. At least that’s how I remember it.
    Robinson played the first set and the second half of the 4th set. Haddock got all the other time at opp/RS. Stetler played the DS for the right side hitter. RJP didn't really play opp. She just did her normal 2/1 left side/right side rotation (so did Miller). She did hit once I believe out of the back row from the right side so I suppose that could be counted.

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    You know it's quite the thing that RJP's first choice was Utah:

    “I really wanted to go to Utah, but they weren’t interested,” said the recent U.S. Collegiate Women’s National Team member who now is known as Roni Jones-Perry because she married her high school sweetheart, Todd Perry, after her freshman season at BYU. “So I started to listen to BYU.”
    https://www.sltrib.com/sports/byu-co...g-at-no-8-byu/

    I know the article is a year old, but I hadn't seen it. Olmstead does appear to be very good at talent evaluation.

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    BYU just spanked 10th ranked USC on a neutral court 3-0. First, set was close but after that BYU dominated. Really, great game by RJP. Eppich and Lake played really well too. BYU still needs a RS hitter. Really nice and important win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    BYU just spanked 10th ranked USC on a neutral court 3-0. First, set was close but after that BYU dominated. Really, great game by RJP. Eppich and Lake played really well too. BYU still needs a RS hitter. Really nice and important win.
    When does Ballard return? Hamson isn't returning this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    When does Ballard return? Hamson isn't returning this year.
    Ballard actually played at the very end of the WSU game; maybe 4 total points. She even got a kill. That may signal she getting healthier. She didn't play at all against USC; I don't think that's surprising. I expect Olmstead to bring her along slowly. I expect her to get at least a little time against Syracuse tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    Ballard actually played at the very end of the WSU game; maybe 4 total points. She even got a kill. That may signal she getting healthier. She didn't play at all against USC; I don't think that's surprising. I expect Olmstead to bring her along slowly. I expect her to get at least a little time against Syracuse tonight.
    Good to hear. This team could be formidable, and would haven been but for Hamson's injury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Good to hear. This team could be formidable, and would haven been but for Hamson's injury.
    This seems to be conventional wisdom about Hamson. Maybe it's true, but it builds in a ton of improvement relative to her freshman year. Despite her size she wasn't better than Haddock at opposite last year. Maybe she did really improve though. It's certainly possible given her physical advantages.

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    Beat Syracuce 3-0. Hard to tell how good Syracuse is since this is only their third match this season. I'm guessing somewhere in the 50-100 range. Not surprising given they had just played USC, but BYU didn't look sharp. I thought serve and return of serve were pretty weak. Miller and Gneiting probably played the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    Beat Syracuce 3-0. Hard to tell how good Syracuse is since this is only their third match this season. I'm guessing somewhere in the 50-100 range. Not surprising given they had just played USC, but BYU didn't look sharp. I thought serve and return of serve were pretty weak. Miller and Gneiting probably played the best.
    Marquette defeated USC 3-2. I didn't watch the game but followed it briefly online. I don't know if USC was worn down by having played previously. Hopefully, BYU comes out rested against Marquette and its home crowd.
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