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    We gave the same chant back to them post game though, right?
    Wait, I forgot, the students did one towards the end of the third set.

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    Two WCC teams in the sweet 16; San Diego swept USC.

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    1. BYU was just really successful at targeting Drews on serve receive. I thought Utah made a mistake by leaving her in the backrow. I know they want her available for the BIC, but it's hard to run when she's targeted like that. Don't get me wrong, she's a very good OH, but she couldn't handle BYU's serves.

    2. BYU did a great job of targeting specific people. Their number one go to was Drews unless Gauta was in a serve-receive spot (relatively rare) and then they immediately went after her. BYU rarely missed their target.

    3. Really nice passing and defensive match in general for Stetler.

    4. Both Haddock-Eppich and Lake are hitting much flatter more aggressive floats than they were in the WCC season.

    4. Robinson's stats weren't great (0.167 if I remember right), but I thought she was effective enough at terminating with good hard swings. It kept the middle open. I think that's exactly how you want her to swing. She's going to have a higher error rate than Miller would, but I think her kill% will be good if she swings like that. She's got a cannon.

    5. Utah tried a lot of short serves. I think that was bad strategy. Lake is just too good and can cover too much territory for that to work.

    6. Haddock-Eppich's low quick sets to the middle were just really well placed all night long. Utah was camping on RJP and they couldn't get back laterally given the quickness of those sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    1. BYU was just really successful at targeting Drews on serve receive. I thought Utah made a mistake by leaving her in the backrow. I know they want her available for the BIC, but it's hard to run when she's targeted like that. Don't get me wrong, she's a very good OH, but she couldn't handle BYU's serves.

    2. BYU did a great job of targeting specific people. Their number one go to was Drews unless Gauta was in a serve-receive spot (relatively rare) and then they immediately went after her. BYU rarely missed their target.

    3. Really nice passing and defensive match in general for Stetler.

    4. Both Haddock-Eppich and Lake are hitting much flatter more aggressive floats than they were in the WCC season.

    4. Robinson's stats weren't great (0.167 if I remember right), but I thought she was effective enough at terminating with good hard swings. It kept the middle open. I think that's exactly how you want her to swing. She's going to have a higher error rate than Miller would, but I think her kill% will be good if she swings like that. She's got a cannon.

    5. Utah tried a lot of short serves. I think that was bad strategy. Lake is just too good and can cover too much territory for that to work.

    6. Haddock-Eppich's low quick sets to the middle were just really well placed all night long. Utah was camping on RJP and they couldn't get back laterally given the quickness of those sets.
    Any preview of the Florida game?

    They have a 6'8" MB, Rachel Kramer, and 6'1" OH in Paige Hammons, plus they have a heralded freshman class. They were ranked #18 before the Tourney.
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    I've watched them a little. They are really big and physical. I think they have a 6-8 middle and 6-7 OPP. I think its the biggest team BYU has played since Stanford. BYU is smaller than when they played Stanford. So will that give BYU trouble?

    That said I think the teams that give BYU the most trouble are fast quick setting offenses. So I actually expect BYU to match up well because unless they've changed, Florida isn't a particularly uptempo offense.

    I think Thayer Hall (did her parents name her after the University building they met in?) is their best player. She reminds me of McKenna Miller
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    I've watched them a little. They are really big and physical. I think they have a 6-8 middle and 6-7 OPP. I think its the biggest team BYU has played since Stanford. BYU is smaller than when they played Stanford. So will that give BYU trouble?

    That said I think the teams that give BYU the most trouble are fast quick setting offenses. So I actually expect BYU to match up well because unless they've changed, Florida isn't a particularly uptempo offense.

    I think Thayer Hall (did her parents name her after the University building they met in?) is their best player. She reminds me of McKenna Miller
    That is why Minnesota would be a match up. Of course to get there they would have to go through Florida, Tex and Stanford.
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    Just watched a little bit more of Florida. One clarification: they run highball sets (so slow) to the outside, but try to go pretty quick to the middles. When I said quick above I really was referring to how they set the pins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    Just watched a little bit more of Florida. One clarification: they run highball sets (so slow) to the outside, but try to go pretty quick to the middles. When I said quick above I really was referring to how they set the pins.
    I think our middles aren’t outmatched from a size perspective. I also think we have guys who can dig the ball against huge hitters as long as our blockers get in place. Most of all, I like serving against big teams at altitude. 2 points per set for that at a minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    I think our middles aren’t outmatched from a size perspective. I also think we have guys who can dig the ball against huge hitters as long as our blockers get in place. Most of all, I like serving against big teams at altitude. 2 points per set for that at a minimum.
    Very much agree on all three points. Additionally, I think Gneiting will be the best middle on the court. Certainly, the most athletic.

    I think both of Florida's OHs run all six rotations (unless they quit doing that with Hall after she came back from injury). Just based on limited watching I think BYU targets Thayer Hall. We will see how she holds up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    Very much agree on all three points. Additionally, I think Gneiting will be the best middle on the court. Certainly, the most athletic.

    I think both of Florida's OHs run all six rotations (unless they quit doing that with Hall after she came back from injury). Just based on limited watching I think BYU targets Thayer Hall. We will see how she holds up.
    I watched a few Florida matches sans Thayer Hall, and they looked very beatable. Against Tennessee (who is a solid program), they got worked over repeatedly. Maybe Hall is a difference maker. We'll see.

    I also watched Minnesota's first round game. They're good, no doubt, but I don't feel like I did against PSU in 2014, where BYU was drastically less talented than the Nittany Lions. Minnesota can beat us and vice versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post
    I watched a few Florida matches sans Thayer Hall, and they looked very beatable. Against Tennessee (who is a solid program), they got worked over repeatedly. Maybe Hall is a difference maker. We'll see.
    Yeah, I think the odds are roughly in the 75%-80% range that BYU beats Florida. In fact, I like both the Florida and Texas matchups for BYU. Texas' is a little more worrisome given their middles are crazy athletic (particularly Butler), but I think BYU can win the serve/receive battle against Texas. Michigan I've never seen play.

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    Besides Pelagius, who else is attending in person? Looking forward to a nice series of wins, but also worried as usual.
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    Dominant after that first set. Horns down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    Dominant after that first set. Horns down.
    Yep. That was fun to watch.
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    Just got back from the match. Not many thoughts, maybe more later:

    1. Wow, that was fun

    2. Florida's serving in the first set was just so good. I was just hoping they would come back down to earth a little. Which they did.

    3. Eschenberg was so good all match long. She's a seriously underrated middle. Also, it amuses me that among the very accomplished volleyball family that is the Eschenbergs, the daughter in law is the best one (so far).

    4. At some point (I think early second set) BYU figured out how to read the middle attack better. Impressive adjustment.

    5. Florida's block is really good but the rest of the defense isn't that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Besides Pelagius, who else is attending in person? Looking forward to a nice series of wins, but also worried as usual.
    I was there. Refs were poor. We still won.

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    I was traveling to Houston (for a volleyball tournament), so I
    Missed the game live, but we played well. I was glad to see we hit so well against a tall Florida front line. Texas is not as tall, but more athletic and we’ll have to make adjustments to get past their block.

    Slow starts could be s huge factor against UT. UT is 19-0 when taking the first set. They were up 10-0 on Michigan in first set last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post
    I was traveling to Houston (for a volleyball tournament), so I
    Missed the game live, but we played well. I was glad to see we hit so well against a tall Florida front line. Texas is not as tall, but more athletic and we’ll have to make adjustments to get past their block.

    Slow starts could be s huge factor against UT. UT is 19-0 when taking the first set. They were up 10-0 on Michigan in first set last night.
    Worried about starting slowly but Olmstead has shown she knows how to make adjustments. Now is the time Miller would be valuable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    I was there. Refs were poor. We still won.
    Did you watch Texas? How will BYU match up against Texas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Did you watch Texas? How will BYU match up against Texas?
    Texas isn’t as big as Florida but their setter is better than either FL setter. Maddie Robinson is back to being aggressive and our team plays in system a lot so i like where we are. I think it will come down to who plays in system more often. In and out of system I would say the teams are really close to each other. Also, Heather is a great game coach and makes better adjustments every game than her competition. Crowd, altitude, coach, I put us as winning in 4 again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    Texas isn’t as big as Florida but their setter is better than either FL setter. Maddie Robinson is back to being aggressive and our team plays in system a lot so i like where we are. I think it will come down to who plays in system more often. In and out of system I would say the teams are really close to each other. Also, Heather is a great game coach and makes better adjustments every game than her competition. Crowd, altitude, coach, I put us as winning in 4 again.
    Her in game adjustments have been impressive. If Maddie maintains her confidence, BYU is the perhaps the best chance for anybody defeating Stanford. With Minnesota going down the crowd won't be as much of a factor in the Final Four for the winner of Stanford's region and BYU's region.
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    Nice sweep. Fun match.

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    Pretty impressive sweep.

    BEAT STANFORD (or Penn St., whatever)!

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    Woohoo!
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    Awesome match. What a solid team.
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    RJP and Mary Lake are so good.

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    Just got done watching on DVR. What a great match. That felt like two very evenly matched teams. On a neutral court that probably goes all 5 sets.

    RJP was dropping bombs, and Maddie Robinson wasn’t too far behind. There were a couple of times Robinson hit that I swear she looked just like RJP. Mary Lake was her usual amazing self. She hit the ground pretty hard a few times, and I was worried she hurt herself. But she came on strong late in that 3rd set.

    Texas’ block was very impressive. And their two freshman bigs are amazing. They are going to be very good for the next three years. They were impressive hitting in system, but not very effective when they were scrambling. Lots of free balls back to BYU that Probably should have been free swings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Just got done watching on DVR. What a great match. That felt like two very evenly matched teams. On a neutral court that probably goes all 5 sets.

    RJP was dropping bombs, and Maddie Robinson wasn’t too far behind. There were a couple of times Robinson hit that I swear she looked just like RJP. Mary Lake was her usual amazing self. She hit the ground pretty hard a few times, and I was worried she hurt herself. But she came on strong late in that 3rd set.

    Texas’ block was very impressive. And their two freshman bigs are amazing. They are going to be very good for the next three years. They were impressive hitting in system, but not very effective when they were scrambling. Lots of free balls back to BYU that Probably should have been free swings.
    Maddie can really swing for a 5’10” OH. She’s an OH2 with an OH1 shoulder. Our two freshmen, Gneiting and Robinson, both belonged on that court with their freshmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post


    Texas’ block was very impressive. And their two freshman bigs are amazing. They are going to be very good for the next three years. They were impressive hitting in system, but not very effective when they were scrambling. Lots of free balls back to BYU that Probably should have been free swings.
    I kind of think Texas is the female version of the BYU men's team circa 2016-17. Just so big, athletic, and powerful at the pins. But you can beat them with really good sustained serving pressure and defense.

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