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    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, ďspectator discipleshipĒ is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    No kidding. that is pretty bad and those are really not very difficult questions.

    Oh, and lest Frank gets after me, let me say that Trump has said things equally or more dopey. And because Russians.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    No kidding. that is pretty bad and those are really not very difficult questions.

    Oh, and lest Frank gets after me, let me say that Trump has said things equally or more dopey. And because Russians.
    Trump is not nearly as easy on the eyes!
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    I haven't been following her campaign too close... So Joe Crowley's not dead yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    I haven't been following her campaign too close... So Joe Crowley's not dead yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    LOL... that is funny. I hope that her and Bernie get together for a presidential run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Did you read the NYT article? She's not as crazy as you think. Crowley is apparently unwilling to take his name off the ballot as a third party nominee, even as he states he supports the Democratic nominee.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    there is low unemployment because people are working two jobs?
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    there is low unemployment because people are working two jobs?
    Stealing jobs from other people, leaving them unemployed. Makes perfect sense. #logicftw
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Did you read the NYT article? She's not as crazy as you think. Crowley is apparently unwilling to take his name off the ballot as a third party nominee, even as he states he supports the Democratic nominee.
    I just found it and skimmed it. Heís claiming he canít remove his name. Honestly, I donít care enough to figure out if heís right. I just enjoy the internal fireworks. Ocasio-Cortez Iím sure will play this up to get more donations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    I just found it and skimmed it. He’s claiming he can’t remove his name. Honestly, I don’t care enough to figure out if he’s right. I just enjoy the internal fireworks. Ocasio-Cortez I’m sure will play this up to get more donations.
    It would be great to see them lose this fight by dividing the vote. I'd love it; we don't need more socialists in Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    It would be great to see them lose this fight by dividing the vote. I'd love it; we don't need more socialists in Congress.
    Yeah, if they divide the vote I'm sure the two dozen registered Republicans in the east Bronx will rise up and take the seat away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    Yeah, if they divide the vote I'm sure the two dozen registered Republicans in the east Bronx will rise up and take the seat away.
    I would love to see Crowley win as an unwilling third party candidate. Her antisemitism won't sell well there.

    I did not realize how disproportionate the voter registration is.

    Democratic Joe Crowley 138,367 70.13%
    Working Families Joe Crowley 7,317 3.71%
    Women's Equality Joe Crowley 1,903 0.96%
    Total Joe Crowley 147,587 74.80%
    Republican Frank J. Spotorno 26,891 13.63%
    Conservative (N.Y.) Frank J. Spotorno 3,654 1.85%
    Total Frank J. Spotorno 30,545 15.48%
    None Blank/Void/Scattering 19,169 9.72%
    Total votes 197,301 100.00%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    It would be great to see them lose this fight by dividing the vote. I'd love it; we don't need more socialists in Congress.
    We only have one. Of course you're the guy who is probably still trembling about the democrats taking congress and serving as a check on crazy Trump, even after yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    We only have one. Of course you're the guy who is probably still trembling about the democrats taking congress and serving as a check on crazy Trump, even after yesterday.
    This is a fundamental question for me. The success of all successful countries is economic first and foremost which give rise to wonderful innovations in technology. Authoritarian regimes recognize this as their socialistic economies failed, threatening their very existence. Now, authoritarian regimes rely upon market economic success while depriving citizens of personal liberties. The US has had both, personal liberties and capitalistic benefits in the delivery of goods and services.

    We must look at the definition of socialism to understand my rudimentary objection to it. It is in its barest form government control over resources, government financing of goods and services and government delivery of those services.

    Socialism is the delivery of mediocre services in an egalitarian manner, mediocrity for all. All societies now possess socialistic elements, and it helps salve the conscience of members of society and fill in gaps where capitalism fails, but it should not be the prime mover for goods and servers. The Democratic Party embracing Sanders, Booker and Ocasio-Cortez scares the hell out of me, because unwittingly, you will lead us down the path of killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

    Anticipating your objections, I understand other societies finance and deliver various levels of healthcare, but their set up occurred for the most part right after WWII, while the US took a different path. The law of unintended consequences shows, just under Obamacare, how destructive government adjustments to the existing system are. There are also structural systemic weaknesses in the US bureaucracy which are not extant in other systems. In short, the socialism already adopted by others can't and won't work in the US.

    I understand a safety net will continue to exist and am not advocating the disruption of those existing nets, but object to creating more, where the existing nets for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are already unfunded.

    We have no need of a wave of socialism. The other issues government tackles are important but losing the economic battle is a battle for all that matters. It is the very welfare of our lifestyles.
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    Ocasio-Cortez tapped into the same sentiment that President Trump tapped into (also the same sentiment that President Obama tapped into)... which is disgust for the status-quo. Drain the swamp!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Ocasio-Cortez tapped into the same sentiment that President Trump tapped into (also the same sentiment that President Obama tapped into)... which is disgust for the status-quo. Drain the swamp!
    So a combination of ignorance and a repeating a welcome mantra and voila, you're in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Ocasio-Cortez tapped into the same sentiment that President Trump tapped into (also the same sentiment that President Obama tapped into)... which is disgust for the status-quo. Drain the swamp!
    What a great thought; an unlimited time debate between her and trump, those titans of intellectual rigor.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    So a combination of ignorance and a repeating a welcome mantra and voila, you're in!
    pretty much.

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    If you don't vote for Ocasio-Cortez then you're un-American...

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    I canít even begin to understand people who are devote socialists. Blows my mind. I get people that have socialist leanings, but outright socialists like Ocasio-Cortez and her followers are just not smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    I can’t even begin to understand people who are devote socialists. Blows my mind. I get people that have socialist leanings, but outright socialists like Ocasio-Cortez and her followers are just not smart.
    She is new progressive star of the democratic party! The sweet heart of People Mag and the movie stars. You need to jump aboard the progressive train before it leaves you.
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    Listen up libs... time to occupy!

    OCASIO-CORTEZ CALLS FOR OCCUPATION OF AIRPORTS, ICE OFFICES: ĎWE HAVE TO MOBILIZEí

    New York congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has called on protesters rallying under the ďAbolish ICEĒ banner to occupy border crossings, airports and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) offices across the country.


    Ocasio-Cortez made the comments during an interview on Monday with Democracy Now's Amy Goodman, speaking alongside Barcelona Mayor Ada Colau.
    [...]
    https://www.newsweek.com/ocasio-cort...bilize-1028387


    Don't miss the fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    I can’t even begin to understand people who are devote socialists. Blows my mind. I get people that have socialist leanings, but outright socialists like Ocasio-Cortez and her followers are just not smart.
    What is a devote socialist, is a like a woke person?

    It is truly mind-blowing that an educated person in the US can be a socialist. Socialism, when it works effectively as a stopgap measure, fills the gaps for what capitalism can't or won't provide effectively. When it's used as the primary provider of goods and services fails miserably. Socialists are persons of belief, not persons relying upon empirical data. Most of us aren't really that empirically driven, but socialists fall into the crazy people like home-schooled or climate change skeptics or anti-vaxxers. They exist, you just wish they were unicorns.
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    I like the way she dresses, much better than her interviewer.

    I don't think that she's that dumb, she just got distracted right before the pivotal question, and then couldn't make her way through the rest of the questions.

    About the capitalism, she's definitely right about the history of capitalism, and probably right about the future of capitalism.

    I'm not a supporter but I don't mind her crazy schtick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katy Lied View Post
    I like the way she dresses, much better than her interviewer.


    About the capitalism, she's definitely right about the history of capitalism, and probably right about the future of capitalism.

    We're discussing her intellectual faux pas and you're complimenting her wardrobe?

    What aspects do you think she got right and why do you believe in her predictions of capitalism? We're in disagreement as she sounded outright dumb in the interview. It doesn't take brilliance or distraction to discuss Israel more intelligently than she did. I imagine there are high school students better versed than she is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katy Lied View Post
    I like the way she dresses, much better than her interviewer.
    #WhatAboutClinton Hey, Hillary can dress like an hipster too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    #WhatAboutClinton Hey, Hillary can dress like an hipster too!

    Is that what hectamillionairesses are wearing nowadays.
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