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    Default HBO's Documentary - Believer

    Has anyone watched this yet?

    https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/believer

    It debuted on June 20th, and follows Dan Reynolds, the lead singer of Imagine Dragons, who was raised LDS, served a mission, etc., as well as the lead singer of the Neon Trees, Tyler Glenn, also raised LDS, served a mission, openly gay and out now and the concert they wanted to put on to raise awareness for the LGBTQ youth suicides in Utah called Loveloud (which is now an annual thing...or at least is happening again this year).

    I watched it last week and thought it was pretty interesting. It primarily features Reynolds, his wife, and Glenn, but also features several parents of LGBTQ youth who've sadly killed themselves. It also features Dehlin, who, shockingly doesn't really add much to the documentary (other than some grandstanding), but whatever. In any event, I found it to be interesting and worth watching, though it naturally doesn't necessarily paint the church in the best light, though the church did put out a pretty supportive statement about the concert, which seemed to please Reynolds.

    All in all I would say it is worth a watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Has anyone watched this yet?

    https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/believer

    It debuted on June 20th, and follows Dan Reynolds, the lead singer of Imagine Dragons, who was raised LDS, served a mission, etc., as well as the lead singer of the Neon Trees, Tyler Glenn, also raised LDS, served a mission, openly gay and out now and the concert they wanted to put on to raise awareness for the LGBTQ youth suicides in Utah called Loveloud (which is now an annual thing...or at least is happening again this year).

    I watched it last week and thought it was pretty interesting. It primarily features Reynolds, his wife, and Glenn, but also features several parents of LGBTQ youth who've sadly killed themselves. It also features Dehlin, who, shockingly doesn't really add much to the documentary (other than some grandstanding), but whatever. In any event, I found it to be interesting and worth watching, though it naturally doesn't necessarily paint the church in the best light, though the church did put out a pretty supportive statement about the concert, which seemed to please Reynolds.

    All in all I would say it is worth a watch.
    I've heard about it, but have little interest in watching it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
    I've heard about it, but have little interest in watching it.
    Dare I ask...why?

    I know some folks are mad about it because they think it is more about Dan's personal journey than anything else, but I didn't necessarily get that feel from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Dare I ask...why?
    Not made by the church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Dare I ask...why?

    I know some folks are mad about it because they think it is more about Dan's personal journey than anything else, but I didn't necessarily get that feel from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Not made by the church.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    I caught some of it. Did they mention Reynolds divorce? I like Imagine Dragons and I like the concept of Loveloud. The portion I watched I felt Reynolds came across with an annoying amount of self worth. I did find the parents to be powerful and their comments carried the parts I watched.
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    I watched it. I thought it was great — too bad that Dan Reynolds and his wife are getting divorced. That’s the sad part. It was not mentioned in the movie at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Dare I ask...why?

    I know some folks are mad about it because they think it is more about Dan's personal journey than anything else, but I didn't necessarily get that feel from it.
    It just doesn't seem interesting to me. Nothing more than that really.
    The crux of what has traumatized us about CUF/CG is that we thought they were our friends. And their identity as BYU fans turned out to be the most important thing to them. What empty lives! What a damning indictment of the LDS Church!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Has anyone watched this yet?

    https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/believer

    It debuted on June 20th, and follows Dan Reynolds, the lead singer of Imagine Dragons, who was raised LDS, served a mission, etc., as well as the lead singer of the Neon Trees, Tyler Glenn, also raised LDS, served a mission, openly gay and out now and the concert they wanted to put on to raise awareness for the LGBTQ youth suicides in Utah called Loveloud (which is now an annual thing...or at least is happening again this year).

    I watched it last week and thought it was pretty interesting. It primarily features Reynolds, his wife, and Glenn, but also features several parents of LGBTQ youth who've sadly killed themselves. It also features Dehlin, who, shockingly doesn't really add much to the documentary (other than some grandstanding), but whatever. In any event, I found it to be interesting and worth watching, though it naturally doesn't necessarily paint the church in the best light, though the church did put out a pretty supportive statement about the concert, which seemed to please Reynolds.

    All in all I would say it is worth a watch.
    I overheard some chatter about this doc in the office break room today. Apparently there is a portion of the show that focuses on a kid at BYU who had sex with his gf and was kicked out for 5 years? That sounds like some selective fact sharing, but I wanted to ask those here who have watched it what the specific details were that were in the documentary on that issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Not made by the church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    I overheard some chatter about this doc in the office break room today. Apparently there is a portion of the show that focuses on a kid at BYU who had sex with his gf and was kicked out for 5 years? That sounds like some selective fact sharing, but I wanted to ask those here who have watched it what the specific details were that were in the documentary on that issue.
    Kicked out for 5 years?

    I am calling BS on that story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Kicked out for 5 years?

    I am calling BS on that story.
    Exactly. My guess is he was kicked out with a specific set of things to do before he could enroll again, and probably a 1 or 2 semester suspension. Because he was pissed off, he tried to transfer without complying. But when he found out that there was no way around getting his credits transferred without complying, he finally agreed to re-enroll. 5 years later. Something like that is my guess.
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    BTW, what does the church have against LGTBQ's? I love them...

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    They forgot to add the Queso on this one, however... Not as good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Kicked out for 5 years?

    I am calling BS on that story.
    I thought this is BS as well so I watched part of the youtube link this morning while riding my bike... it is about 1:02 in. I am guessing that the kid had sex with the {grand}daughter of the BYU president or Prophet, if true.
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