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    If these exhibition games are indicative of this year's team I think Rose's streak of 20 wins is in serious jeopardy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    If these exhibition games are indicative of this year's team I think Rose's streak of 20 wins is in serious jeopardy.

    We shoot at well as the Lakers.
    i agree that streak is in jeopardy
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    I watched most of yesterday's game. I thought BYU defended fairly well- was somewhat surprised by the effort on that end of the court.

    Here is my take on the BYU Cougars 2018-2019:

    1.) We would be better if we had Mika and Elijah, well we don't.

    2.) On the perimeter I see it being Hardnett, TJ and Seljaas. Off the bench Rose will bring Cannon, Harding and Bergerson- AYNSOT208! Am I excited- you bet I am excited! Not since Richie Webb and the famous 5-head has there been so much ass kicking rural Idaho (as if there is anything other than RURAL in the best place on earth- I know Commando has become an elitist asshole (or more likely he always was and thus got his buns taped together after wresting practice at Sugar-Salem High) but trust me Matt Cannon and Connor Harding might be better neighbors than your average Honduran refugee-salt of the earth folks these Idaho rednecks!). To be serious this is Seljaas make or break opportunity at BYU. Rose is giving Seljaas every opportunity to make it his own, but Seljaas likely has until Nick Emery has been back about 5 games to take his role by the horns and make it his own. If Zack cannot find Zack's shooting from his freshman year he will be go to the bench. Then the starters will be Hardnett, TJ and Nick. Of the bench it will be primarily Cannon and Harding with Seljaas and Bergerson playing role minutes depending on needs. I don't think Bergerson is very good and I am losing faith in Seljaas. If I am betting man I doubt Seljaas finds it and his minutes are less than 10 mpg by the end of the year. Emery and TJ will both be about 32 mpg, Hardnett will be about 26, and the rest will share the remaining 30 mpg. By the end of the year I think Harding will be getting the most followed by Cannon and then Seljaas. I am big on Harding. I just think he is going to be a consummate team player. He is also from SouthEast Idaho and I think could kick Commando's ass in a fistfight, hunting for deer and waterskiing on a canal being pulled by a Ford or Chevy! But not as much whining about Honduran refugees (God Bless Tom Petty!).

    3.) The post positions will be Childs and Worthington. As the greatest intermountain coach of basketball once said: "Starting is for high school." Worthington will start all year and there will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teethe from pussies in the fanbase still butthurt about Issaac Nelson's beating BYU in a game of horse a couple of years ago and the fact that Payton Dastrup wanted to only play horse- and likely would have been good at it. However, I am convinced that the only guy who might play a post position for any minutes regularly who will play less than Worthington will be Lee (AYNSOT208!). Childs will play 34 mpg, I think Baxter will get the next highest mpg totals at about 20, then I expect Luke and Nixon to both get about 15 mpg and mighty, mighty Kolby Lee will get the remaining. Let me add that Baxter is what people are saying about him. I think he has the God given body to be really, really good.

    4.) At the end of the year BYU will still be wondering what might of been had Mika and Elijah been on this team. At least next year it will only be wondering about what might of been with Payton Dastrup- who I think would end up worse player than just about every big on BYU's team.
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    I enjoyed the write up even if I hear miles per gallon in my head every time you write mpg.

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    I keep expecting the ball to go through the hoop when Seljass releases from 3. So frustrating that he keeps missing. Is he just saving the makes for Nevada?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    to be clear, he didn't say baxter was good.
    Yeah, good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    If these exhibition games are indicative of this year's team I think Rose's streak of 20 wins is in serious jeopardy.

    We shoot at well as the Lakers.
    We pretty much say this every year after the exhibitions. I can't remember the last time as a whole that our internet basketball fanbase was very impressed after these games, including Jimmer's senior year.
    Last edited by BlueK; 11-02-2018 at 12:04 PM.

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    So by how many do we lose at Nevada? 15, 25, or 40?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    So by how many do we lose at Nevada? 15, 25, or 40?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flystripper View Post
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    Hopefully we'll be surprised. Imagine as a Nevada fan seeing the pre-season top 10 ranking and then going to watch your team at home in their exhibition lose to Washington by 18 points, which is a team ranked on the computer models around the same spot as BYU. If that were us our fanbase would be looking for the nearest tall building to jump from. I know they have talent. They also will have a couple of key players out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    I watched most of yesterday's game. I thought BYU defended fairly well- was somewhat surprised by the effort on that end of the court.

    Here is my take on the BYU Cougars 2018-2019:

    1.) We would be better if we had Mika and Elijah, well we don't.
    Yep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    2.) On the perimeter I see it being Hardnett, TJ and Seljaas. Off the bench Rose will bring Cannon, Harding and Bergerson- AYNSOT208! Am I excited- you bet I am excited! Not since Richie Webb and the famous 5-head has there been so much ass kicking rural Idaho (as if there is anything other than RURAL in the best place on earth-
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    I know Commando has become an elitist asshole (or more likely he always was and thus got his buns taped together after wresting practice at Sugar-Salem High)
    You must be clairvoyant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    but trust me Matt Cannon and Connor Harding might be better neighbors than your average Honduran refugee-salt of the earth folks these Idaho rednecks!). To be serious this is Seljaas make or break opportunity at BYU. Rose is giving Seljaas every opportunity to make it his own, but Seljaas likely has until Nick Emery has been back about 5 games to take his role by the horns and make it his own. If Zack cannot find Zack's shooting from his freshman year he will be go to the bench. Then the starters will be Hardnett, TJ and Nick. Of the bench it will be primarily Cannon and Harding with Seljaas and Bergerson playing role minutes depending on needs. I don't think Bergerson is very good and I am losing faith in Seljaas. If I am betting man I doubt Seljaas finds it and his minutes are less than 10 mpg by the end of the year. Emery and TJ will both be about 32 mpg, Hardnett will be about 26, and the rest will share the remaining 30 mpg. By the end of the year I think Harding will be getting the most followed by Cannon and then Seljaas. I am big on Harding. I just think he is going to be a consummate team player. He is also from SouthEast Idaho and I think could kick Commando's ass in a fistfight, hunting for deer and waterskiing on a canal being pulled by a Ford or Chevy! But not as much whining about Honduran refugees (God Bless Tom Petty!).

    I agree that I don't see Seljaas finding his stroke but I will continue to hope he does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    3.) The post positions will be Childs and Worthington. As the greatest intermountain coach of basketball once said: "Starting is for high school." Worthington will start all year and there will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teethe from pussies in the fanbase still butthurt about Issaac Nelson's beating BYU in a game of horse a couple of years ago and the fact that Payton Dastrup wanted to only play horse- and likely would have been good at it. However, I am convinced that the only guy who might play a post position for any minutes regularly who will play less than Worthington will be Lee (AYNSOT208!). Childs will play 34 mpg, I think Baxter will get the next highest mpg totals at about 20, then I expect Luke and Nixon to both get about 15 mpg and mighty, mighty Kolby Lee will get the remaining. Let me add that Baxter is what people are saying about him. I think he has the God given body to be really, really good.
    I an not sure Lee will play so few minutes compared to Luke. Lee showed some ability to play, more than I anticipated and knocking down a three showed a lot more than Luke ever did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    4.) At the end of the year BYU will still be wondering what might of been had Mika and Elijah been on this team. At least next year it will only be wondering about what might of been with Payton Dastrup- who I think would end up worse player than just about every big on BYU's team.
    Sadly true. Dastrup is unlikely to reclaim his former glory out of high school though I wish him well.
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    The position most interesting to me is the 4 and big wing. I think we start Luke and he does his normal thing of being overly physical which will put him on the bench a lot. The question is what do we do then. The plan I see Lewis working on the most is bringing in Nixon, Bergerson, Harding or Baxter and opening up the offensive paint. When Luke sits in practice, I’ve seen a lot of Shire, Teej, Zach, Dalton, and Yoeli. This group runs a lot of actions without a man in the paint. I also think both Bergerson and Harding are ahead of Baxter in this rotation. Baxter needs to shoot the ball better to see court time outside of defensive stopper. I don’t see Luke playing a ton if he can’t slow down on offense and I do see Dalton playing a ton because he cuts better off the ball than anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    The position most interesting to me is the 4 and big wing. I think we start Luke and he does his normal thing of being overly physical which will put him on the bench a lot. The question is what do we do then. The plan I see Lewis working on the most is bringing in Nixon, Bergerson, Harding or Baxter and opening up the offensive paint. When Luke sits in practice, Iíve seen a lot of Shire, Teej, Zach, Dalton, and Yoeli. This group runs a lot of actions without a man in the paint. I also think both Bergerson and Harding are ahead of Baxter in this rotation. Baxter needs to shoot the ball better to see court time outside of defensive stopper. I donít see Luke playing a ton if he canít slow down on offense and I do see Dalton playing a ton because he cuts better off the ball than anyone.
    Is Nixon bigger/stronger than Harding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Is Nixon bigger/stronger than Harding?
    i'd say at this point, he probably is. but ultimately they are built fairly similarly. Harding seems to have a bit more potential in my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    Is Nixon bigger/stronger than Harding?
    Yep. About an inch bigger. Not the 6’8” listed though. More like 6’6”. Much more physically developed though. Dalton has been spending the time in the weight room. Harding has better ball skills though.

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    ESPN's BPI projects BYU to go 25-6. The pre-season data-based models out there are more positive toward BYU this year than we've seen in the last several years.

    https://247sports.com/college/byu/Conte ... 124167303/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    ESPN's BPI projects BYU to go 25-6. The pre-season data-based models out there are more positive toward BYU this year than we've seen in the last several years.

    https://247sports.com/college/byu/Conte ... 124167303/
    They have us at #41. Interesting. Last two seasons, we finished 82 and 80 in this. I wonder what they're seeing that makes them think we'll be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay santos View Post
    They have us at #41. Interesting. Last two seasons, we finished 82 and 80 in this. I wonder what they're seeing that makes them think we'll be better.
    Here is what their computer model looks at:

    What goes into BPI?
    1. Coach’s past performance: This is captured by the coach’s average adjusted offensive and defensive rating (points per 100 possessions) since 2007-08 (including games at other schools). A first-time head coach gets a replacement-level rating.

    2. Recruiting rankings: The average recruiting grade of the incoming class (compiled by 247 Sports) from four recruiting services (ESPN, Scouts, Rivals and 247 Sports). The number of five-star recruits joining a program is an additional input because of the singular impact they can have.

    3. Current roster returning: The minutes played in each previous season for returning players, including transfers. Each player’s highest percentage of minutes played in a season during his career is used to help account for injuries and other setbacks.

    4. Performance of those returning players: Opponent-adjusted offensive and defensive rating for returning players.

    To simplify, preseason BPI asks: 1.) What percentage of minutes are returning? 2.) Are those returning minutes any good? 3) How will the team fill the non-returning minutes? 4.) What is the coach’s track record?

    These preseason components hold different weights depending on how many players are returning, but they are combined in a Bayesian hierarchical model to produce a team’s preseason BPI.

    http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...e-they-derived

    Current roster returning is a big one for this particular season that wouldn't have looked as favorable on the last five or six teams. Granted, that leaves the door open to the possibility this won't work for us compared to how it normally does other teams. Still, I think the objective measures should lead us to be a little more optimistic than our depressed fan base is feeling right now. And football isn't helping the overall mood.
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    Can we get some nominations for basketball game thread starters? We are going to need some good mojo right from the start. Who's up for the task?
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    BYU Vs Nevada tonight.

    Nevada has 13 upper classmen on the roster almost all of them are transfers. They round out the roster with three freshman. They have zero sophomores, all 3 freshman from last year left. But they did sign top 10 national recruit Jordan Brown.

    They also didn't just land any run of the mill transfers. Musselman philosophy was to land the best kids from the smaller schools.

    These are the transfers and their scoring averages before Nevada

    Treshawn Thurman- 13.8 points, 7.8 rebounds at Omaha
    Jalen Harris- 15.3 at Louisiana Tech
    COrey Henson- 14.6 at Wagner
    Nisre Zouzoua- 20.3 at Bryant
    Caleb Martin- 11.5, 4.7 as soph at NC State
    Cody Martin- 6.8 and 4.4 as a soph at NC State
    Jojo Anderson 10.1 as a freshman at NAU
    Trey Porter- 13.2, 6.2 at Old Dominion
    Jazz Johnson- 15.8 as a sophomore at Portlant
    Jordan Caroline- 9.1 and 6.2 as a freshman at Southern Illinois

    This team is loaded and BYU will have its hands full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    BYU Vs Nevada tonight.

    Nevada has 13 upper classmen on the roster almost all of them are transfers. They round out the roster with three freshman. They have zero sophomores, all 3 freshman from last year left. But they did sign top 10 national recruit Jordan Brown.

    They also didn't just land any run of the mill transfers. Musselman philosophy was to land the best kids from the smaller schools.

    These are the transfers and their scoring averages before Nevada

    Treshawn Thurman- 13.8 points, 7.8 rebounds at Omaha
    Jalen Harris- 15.3 at Louisiana Tech
    COrey Henson- 14.6 at Wagner
    Nisre Zouzoua- 20.3 at Bryant
    Caleb Martin- 11.5, 4.7 as soph at NC State
    Cody Martin- 6.8 and 4.4 as a soph at NC State
    Jojo Anderson 10.1 as a freshman at NAU
    Trey Porter- 13.2, 6.2 at Old Dominion
    Jazz Johnson- 15.8 as a sophomore at Portlant
    Jordan Caroline- 9.1 and 6.2 as a freshman at Southern Illinois

    This team is loaded and BYU will have its hands full.
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    the martin twins and jordan caroline are no joke. after a sweet 16 run last year, they could go even deeper this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    the martin twins and jordan caroline are no joke. after a sweet 16 run last year, they could go even deeper this year.
    Add 6'11 5 star Jordan Brown to that now as well. Ugh.
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    can we keep it closer than 20 pts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Add 6'11 5 star Jordan Brown to that now as well. Ugh.
    yeah, that was quite a coup for Musselman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flystripper View Post
    can we keep it closer than 20 pts?
    We are going to win.
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    Sagarin favors Nevada by 7. I wouldn't be surprised to see that. I would be surprised to see a 40 point beatdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flystripper View Post
    can we keep it closer than 20 pts?
    Nevada didn't look good in their exhibitions, so there's that. A lot of new players to throw together despite the talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    Nevada didn't look good in their exhibitions, so there's that. A lot of new players to throw together despite the talent.
    Yep they have a lot of talent but there is only one basketball. Iím not scared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flystripper View Post
    can we keep it closer than 20 pts?
    3s in transition are the key. If we hit them we can win.

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