2018 - 2019 BYU Hoops

[smokymountainrain]

Hardnett is transferring. I fear that his leaving is not a simple issue of role or playing time. It seems that Rose is not connecting with his players and has created a culture where players, lesser talents and major contributors alike, take the first train out.

yikes.

[jay santos]

Hardnett's a very inefficient player. We could probably find a walk on in the student body to replace him. But a junior starter that's leaving the program is weird. That's a lot of departures in recent years.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Hardnett's a very inefficient player. We could probably find a walk on in the student body to replace him. But a junior starter that's leaving the program is weird. That's a lot of departures in recent years.

Don’t be ridiculous jay.

[BlueK]

Hardnett's a very inefficient player. We could probably find a walk on in the student body to replace him. But a junior starter that's leaving the program is weird. That's a lot of departures in recent years.

A church school a couple of thousand miles away from family might be tough for any non-LDS kid. I like him and thank him for giving it a chance. Good luck to him.

[jay santos]

Don’t be ridiculous jay.

Which part is ridiculous? He's inefficient? Easily replaceable? Or it's somewhat concerning to have so many departures?

[Green Monstah]

A church school a couple of thousand miles away from family might be tough for any non-LDS kid. I like him and thank him for giving it a chance. Good luck to him.

In my experience the non-LDS, African-American kids from the south adjust better than most.

[Jeff Lebowski]

A church school a couple of thousand miles away from family might be tough for any non-LDS kid. I like him and thank him for giving it a chance. Good luck to him.

Funny how the honor code is the ultimate scapegoat for byu fans.

[BlueK]

Funny how the honor code is the ultimate scapegoat for byu fans.

I didn't say that. I don't believe that was it at all. But what part of being thousands of miles away from family did you miss in my post? It would probably be similar if he'd gone play for any school in Utah. Maybe you also missed Dave Rose quoted after the MSU game saying he was glad they were able to get him a game close enough for his mom to be able to go see him? Sure, there were probably also basketball related reasons.

[Moliere]

A church school a couple of thousand miles away from family might be tough for any non-LDS kid. I like him and thank him for giving it a chance. Good luck to him.

We need to recruit more international players. I hear they love the honor code.

[BlueK]

We need to recruit more international players. I hear they love the honor code.

barking up the wrong tree. I'm not blaming anything on the honor code. There are other cultural differences that go well beyond the HC.

[Surfah]

Hardnett is transferring. I fear that his leaving is not a simple issue of role or playing time. It seems that Rose is not connecting with his players and has created a culture where players, lesser talents and major contributors alike, take the first train out.

I don't think this is true. Hardnett was a Schroyer guy. In fact, he may have been the only player to like him. There were rumors he was transferring after the season last year when Schroyer bolted. That may say something about Rose that he was able to convince him to return at all. His playing time isn't what it was mostly due to Nick's return. He can transfer and be a mid year enrollee somewhere else next season. Still a weird decision IMO as I believe he was on track to graduate in April and could have a full year to play as a grad transfer.

[Surfah]

I'll also add, that this team sucks. And while I think Rose is probably done and on the way out, losing a player of Hardnett's caliber shouldn't push him out. People are making him out to be far better than he was because they want Rose gone.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I didn't say that. I don't believe that was it at all. But what part of being thousands of miles away from family did you miss in my post? It would probably be similar if he'd gone play for any school in Utah. Maybe you also missed Dave Rose quoted after the MSU game saying he was glad they were able to get him a game close enough for his mom to be able to go see him? Sure, there were probably also basketball related reasons.

I am going to go way out on a limb here and guess that Hardnett's reduced role & playing time in recent games is an indicator of some friction between player and coach, rather than homesickness.

[BlueK]

I am going to go way out on a limb here and guess that Hardnett's reduced role & playing time in recent games is an indicator of some friction between player and coach, rather than homesickness.

Maybe so. But he was shooting 24% from three. That's a problem, among other on-court issues he was having in his game.

[Green Monstah]

Maybe so. But he was shooting 24% from three. That's a problem, among other on-court issues he was having in his game.

I was frustrated with Hardnett's willingness to let it fly. But he also basically won the Pacific game for us. In the right situations, he definitely had a solid role.

Not that it really matters (this season is wasted), but we'd best hope and pray that neither Haws nor Emery go down.