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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Did I miss something? Isnt Chase Roberts committed to BYU?
    I think that's what he's saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    I think that's what he's saying.
    AH, yes. I did miss something. Thx
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Did I miss something? Isnt Chase Roberts committed to BYU?
    Those are other schools that have offered

    EDIT: you already know that. Didn’t refresh before answering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hostile View Post
    Those are other schools that have offered

    EDIT: you already know that. Didn’t refresh before answering.
    Thats not nearly as bad as not reading before you post, which is what I too often do.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    Crazy.
    It's not that bad. CJ omitted a few.

    2018
    Wilson (Cal, Minnesota, Iowa, Syracuse, Oregon State)
    Romney (Arizona, ASU, Utah, Iowa State)
    Holker (Oregon State)
    Finau (Utah)
    Nasilai (Ok State)
    Pay (Utah)
    Opara (Utah)

    2019
    Conover (ASU, Arizona, Bama, Northwestern, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Oregon State, Wazzu)
    Roberts (Utah)
    Unutoa (Cal, Iowa State)
    Freeland (Utah, Vandy)
    Fiatoa (Oregon State)
    Gunderson (Purdue)

    Not great still and the dearth of skill players is concerning, but let's be real, that's always going to be an issue at BYU. We have to take flyers on kids and hope they develop and can make it 4 years at BYU. Also, some kids like Pay for example, committed early and shut down their recruiting. He likely would have picked up more offers. Also, mission kids typically, unless they're elite, don't get offers held for them.

    Utah going to the P12 brought the rest of the conference to the state. You always had to compete with the blue bloods for the top kids. But now schools like Stanford and Washington are becoming a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    The talent pool for LDS kids and in the state of Utah has never been better.

    Since Kalani was hired, these are the kids we offered with Utah or LDS ties that he didn't land:

    2016
    Cole Fotheringham- 3 star (Utah)
    Garrett Bolles- 4 star (Utah)
    Tucker Scott- 3 star (Utah)
    Keaton Bills- 3 star (Utah)
    Paul FInau- 2 star (Utah)
    Johnny Maea- 3 star (Utah)
    Frederick Mauigoa- 3 star (Washington State)
    Sean Auwae- 3 star (Vandy)
    Maxs Tupai- 4 star (Utah)
    Pookie Maka- 3 star (Colorado)
    LOa Kaufusi- 3 star (Stanford)
    Bradlee Anae- 3 star (Utah)
    Derrick Brown- 5 star (Auburn)
    MIque Juarez- 5 star (UCLA)
    Drue Chrisman- 3 star (Ohio State)

    2017
    Sione Lund- 4 star (Stanford then Utah, missed him twice)
    Kesi Ah-Hoy- 3 star (Oregon state)
    Ty Jones- 4 star (Washington)_
    Taniela Pututau- 3 star (Utah)
    Chuck Filiaga- 4 star (Michigan)
    JOrdan Agasiva- 3 star (Utah)
    MO Unutoa- 3 star (Utah)
    Jay Tufele- 4 star (USC)
    Marlon Tuipulotu- 4 star (USC)
    John Penisini- 3 star (Utah)
    Levani Damuni- 3 star (Stanford)
    Taylor Katoa- 3 star (USC)

    2018
    Tanner Mckee- 5 star (Stanford)
    Tevita Fotu- 3 star (Utah)
    Tae Le- 3 star (Stanford)
    Juniot Angilau- 4 star (Texas)
    Jaren Kump- 3 star (Utah)
    Penei Sewell- 4 star (Oregon)
    Sam Taimani- 4 star (Washington)
    Jacob Isaia- 3 star (Michigan State)
    Cameron Latu- 4 star (Alabama)
    MIka Tafua- 4 star (Utah)
    Samson Reed- 3 star (Virginia)
    Jonny Fanaika- 3 star (Utah)
    Tommy Togiai- 4 star (Ohio State)
    Tyler Manoa- 4 star (UCLA)
    Paul Maile- 3 star (Utah)
    Brandon Kaho- 4 star (Alabama)
    MJ Tafisi- 3 star (Washington)
    Merlin Robertson- 4 star (ASU)
    Tennessee Pututau- 3 star (Utah)
    Salua Masina- 3 star (Vandy)
    Karene Reid- 3 star (Utah State)
    Allan Mwata- 3 star (SDSU)

    For a guy who prides himself on recruiting, this is a real problem with Kalani.

    To show both sides, these are the kids with P5 offers he did land:

    2016

    Sione Finau- 3 star (Offers: Oregon State)
    Jonah Trinnaman- 3 star (Oregon state, Utah)
    Hank Tuipulotu- 3 star (South Carolina)
    Keanu Saleapaga- 3 star (USC, Arizona, Colorado, ORegon State, Pitt, Texas Tech)
    Handsome Tanielu- JC 4 star (ORegon State, Utah, Arizona, Baylor, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, NEbraska, Mizzou, Oklahoma, Ok State, Penn State, TCU, Texas, Washington State, Washington)
    Keenan Pili- 3 star (Cal, Utah, Vandy, Washington State)
    Jackson Kaufusi- 3 star (Utah Cal, Washington State)
    HIrkley Latu- 3 star (Oregon State, Utah)
    Troy Warner- 4 star (USC, Arizona, BC, Cal, Notre Dame, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, Utah)
    Drew Jensen- 2 star (Utah)

    2017
    D'Angelo Gunter-Mandell- 3 star (Vandy)
    Bentley Hanshaw- 3 star (Oregon State)
    Langi Tuifua- 4 star (Oregon, Michigan, Utah)
    Alden Tofa- 3 star (Arizona, Colorado, ORegon, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, Utah, Vandy, Washington State)
    Chaz Ah You- 4 star (UCLA, Washington, Cal, Duke)

    2018
    Gunnar Romney- 3 star (Arizona, ASU)
    Oliver Nasilai- 3 star (Ok State)
    Zach Wilson- 3 star (CAL)

    As you can see it gets worse and worse.


    2019 (assuming they stay committed)

    Jacob Conover- 4 star (ASU, Alabama, Arizona)
    Chase Roberts- 3 star (Utah)
    Elijah Unutoa- 3 star (Cal)
    Blake Freeland- 3 star (Utah, Vandy)

    Regarding 2018:

    Campbell Barrington has an Arizona offer.
    Alex Miskella had a late ASU offer.
    Tausinga reported he had a couple PAC-12 offers, including Oregon.
    Connor Pay had a Utah offer
    Amone Finau had a Utah offer

    2017:

    Tyler Batty (Utah)
    Mango Finau (had an Oregon State offer)
    John Vaka (Oregon)
    Tonga (Utah)
    Lorenzo Fauatea (Utah, Oregon State)

    2016:

    Max Tooley (Utah, WAZZU, Cal, Arizona)
    Jaren Hall (Utah)
    Alema Pilimai (Utah, WAZZU, Oregon State)
    Freddy Livai (Oregon State, Colorado)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    It's not that bad. CJ omitted a few.

    2018
    Wilson (Cal, Minnesota, Iowa, Syracuse, Oregon State)
    Romney (Arizona, ASU, Utah, Iowa State)
    Holker (Oregon State)
    Finau (Utah)
    Nasilai (Ok State)
    Pay (Utah)
    Opara (Utah)

    2019
    Conover (ASU, Arizona, Bama, Northwestern, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Oregon State, Wazzu)
    Roberts (Utah)
    Unutoa (Cal, Iowa State)
    Freeland (Utah, Vandy)
    Fiatoa (Oregon State)
    Gunderson (Purdue)

    Not great still and the dearth of skill players is concerning, but let's be real, that's always going to be an issue at BYU. We have to take flyers on kids and hope they develop and can make it 4 years at BYU. Also, some kids like Pay for example, committed early and shut down their recruiting. He likely would have picked up more offers. Also, mission kids typically, unless they're elite, don't get offers held for them.

    Utah going to the P12 brought the rest of the conference to the state. You always had to compete with the blue bloods for the top kids. But now schools like Stanford and Washington are becoming a problem.
    Tysen Lewis was getting a lot of love from UCLA. You also have to look at transfers and post-mission transfers as part of the recruiting classes.

    Tolutau (Utah, Wisconsin).
    Tukuafu (Utah)
    Hoge (Notre Dame, a whole bunch of others).
    Collie (Wake Forest, Vandy)
    Kirby (Oregon, Wazzu, Utah)
    Tre Greene (Iowa State)
    Khryis Tonga (Utah)
    John Vaka (Oregon)
    Christian Folau (Utah, Oregon State, others).


    I'm unsure if Lee had another options when he transferred over.
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    Found a friend of y’all’s at the hall of fame. Did he really look that grumpy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babs View Post
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    Found a friend of y’all’s at the hall of fame. Did he really look that grumpy?
    Yup. He was famous for that look.

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    I feel like we are doing significantly better on offense with Wilson but know the numbers probably dont show it. I just took an extremely oversimplified look at our offense vs opponents' defenses under each starting QB.

    6 Mangum Starts: Opp season average total defense 352. BYU average total offense 306. Difference -46.

    4 Wilson Starts: Opp season average total defense 411. BYU average total offense 388. Difference -23.

    So we are doing significantly better with Wilson on average, but the defenses we have faced are also significantly worse. Huge revelation, I know. I am very excited about his future though.

    BTW we have only gained more on offense than an opponent's total defense average in two games this year: Boyzee and Hawaii.

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    adjust that for pass attempts
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    adjust that for pass attempts
    I said it was oversimplified!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babs View Post
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    Found a friend of y’all’s at the hall of fame. Did he really look that grumpy?
    Yes, but...

    I met him during my mission (BYU didn't go bowling that year and arranged a tour of Japanese Colleges with a game in Nagoya with some Japanese "All Stars" - it was a rout) When they visited Kyoto and Kobe, some missionaries translated for them. My comp at the time had been his Home Teaching Companion. So, we go to visit with him a bit, IIRC about 15-20 minutes. When he got home he sent my parents a note saying he had seen me and I was doing well. They were really surprised, since I hadn't bothered to tell them I had met him.

    I also met Giff Nielson and Marc Wilson - Giff seemed really nice, Marc seemed a bit aloof.
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    If I were running things (and there are many excellent reasons why I am not), when/if BYU is leading this Saturday, I'd try to get Mangum into the game as early as possible, certainly long before garbage time, and hope he could lead the team on a scoring drive. Assuming he succeeds, then during a subsequent drive I'd sub in Wilson (or if it's a blowout, Hall or whomever), and let the crowd give Tanner a standing O as he trots off the field. I have immense respect for the kid and hope he receives the recognition he deserves.

    Edit: Just saw the Trib article that says essentially the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    If I were running things (and there are many excellent reasons why I am not), when/if BYU is leading this Saturday, I'd try to get Mangum into the game as early as possible, certainly long before garbage time, and hope he could lead the team on a scoring drive. Assuming he succeeds, then during a subsequent drive I'd sub in Wilson (or if it's a blowout, Hall or whomever), and let the crowd give Tanner a standing O as he trots off the field. I have immense respect for the kid and hope he receives the recognition he deserves.

    Edit: Just saw the Trib article that says essentially the same thing.
    Kalani basically said that’s not going to happen. Spencer Linton suggested the same thing. And Kalani said “yeah we are just trying to win the game” he also said Tanner has been hurt the last few weeks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Kalani basically said that’s not going to happen. Spencer Linton suggested the same thing. And Kalani said “yeah we are just trying to win the game” he also said Tanner has been hurt the last few weeks.
    I can't believe he is not willing to coach based on fan suggestions.
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    Tanner already played in way too many games this season. No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    Tanner already played in way too many games this season. No thanks.
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    Has there been any talk of a bowl bid? Has Holmoe been approached by anyone? Ordinarily, the idea of a 6-6 team going to a bowl would be of no interest at all. But it'd be nice if Wunderkind Wilson and the other freshmen got in a couple of weeks of additional practice and bowl experience, even if it's a lame one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    Has there been any talk of a bowl bid? Has Holmoe been approached by anyone? Ordinarily, the idea of a 6-6 team going to a bowl would be of no interest at all. But it'd be nice if Wunderkind Wilson and the other freshmen got in a couple of weeks of additional practice and bowl experience, even if it's a lame one.
    I have heard nothing. I will be more interested in a bowl if Isaiah Kaufusi is available. If not, I think we may be better off without the exposure the bowl would provide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    Has there been any talk of a bowl bid? Has Holmoe been approached by anyone? Ordinarily, the idea of a 6-6 team going to a bowl would be of no interest at all. But it'd be nice if Wunderkind Wilson and the other freshmen got in a couple of weeks of additional practice and bowl experience, even if it's a lame one.
    Nothing from BYU. There are multiple bowl projections out there. The one I looked at earlier (Jerry Palm, I think) had BYU in a Cougar catfight against Houston in the Frisco Bowl.
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    I think the story when the bowl in San Diego that we had signed to play in went under was that ESPN committed to find us a bowl if we qualified. They own a few of those, which makes it easier to pull off. There will be several aligned with conferences that don't have enough teams, and we'd be more attractive than a MAC or Sunbelt team for one of those slots. The added game and practice time for Wilson and others would be a good thing, if nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    I think the story when the bowl in San Diego that we had signed to play in went under was that ESPN committed to find us a bowl if we qualified. They own a few of those, which makes it easier to pull off. There will be several aligned with conferences that don't have enough teams, and we'd be more attractive than a MAC or Sunbelt team for one of those slots. The added game and practice time for Wilson and others would be a good thing, if nothing else.
    ESPN is contractually obligated to put us in a bowl if we are bowl eligible. The ESPN guy on Criddle's show yesterday said so. Like you said we will likely end up in any number of bowls ESPN owns.
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    Apparently it's going to be the Gasparilla bowl against either an ACC or AAC team. Because God hates BYU fans it will probably be BYU v Virginia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USUC View Post
    Apparently it's going to be the Gasparilla bowl against either an ACC or AAC team. Because God hates BYU fans it will probably be BYU v Virginia.
    Is this the old Beef O'Brady's bowl? I'd feel better if we were going to the Chunky Soup Bowl. At least there's some name recognition and a connection with football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Is this the old Beef O'Brady's bowl? I'd feel better if we were going to the Chunky Soup Bowl. At least there's some name recognition and a connection with football.
    It could have been. If this is in the Tampa area, I think it's the old St Peterburg bowl. But these crappy bowls always change names.

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    Idaho Potato Bowl vs. Western Michigan.


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    blue turf is like groundhog day. this timeline sucks.
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    Maybe now we can finally get a win against the Broncos on the blue.
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