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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockett View Post
    Then Romney runs for POTUS again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockett View Post
    Then Romney runs for POTUS again?
    I was thinking Rand Paul takes over at POTUS... Mitt can stay in as senator to see if he can't beat Orrin's record.
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    If he does, he'll older than Strom Thrumand was when he quits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katy Lied View Post
    I was shocked at how many Kennedy signs were up in my neighborhood. Maybe because he spent a lot of money on the primaries. Mitt was very very understated and low key. Just a social media presence, and a few commercials-- one featuring just Anne and one with just him. I thought that as experienced a campaigner as Mitt is, he probably has good polling data showing him with a comfortable lead.
    A few commercials? Every time I looked up in the past week or two there was a Romney commercial on the tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker View Post
    A few commercials? Every time I looked up in the past week or two there was a Romney commercial on the tv.
    People still watch commercials?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Hey stranger. Where have you been?
    Busy life. Day job, travel, started a side business, 6 kids, busy calling.

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    Mitt happens.

    Mitt Romney: The president shapes the public character of the nation. Trump’s character falls short.

    To a great degree, a presidency shapes the public character of the nation. A president should unite us and inspire us to follow “our better angels.” A president should demonstrate the essential qualities of honesty and integrity, and elevate the national discourse with comity and mutual respect. As a nation, we have been blessed with presidents who have called on the greatness of the American spirit. With the nation so divided, resentful and angry, presidential leadership in qualities of character is indispensable. And it is in this province where the incumbent’s shortfall has been most glaring.

    . . . . . . .

    . . . I will act as I would with any president, in or out of my party: I will support policies that I believe are in the best interest of the country and my state, and oppose those that are not. I do not intend to comment on every tweet or fault. But I will speak out against significant statements or actions that are divisive, racist, sexist, anti-immigrant, dishonest or destructive to democratic institutions.

    I remain optimistic about our future. In an innovation age, Americans excel. More importantly, noble instincts live in the hearts of Americans. The people of this great land will eschew the politics of anger and fear if they are summoned to the responsibility by leaders in homes, in churches, in schools, in businesses, in government — who raise our sights and respect the dignity of every child of God — the ideal that is the essence of America.
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    He's such an upgrade over suckupy Hatch. Glad I voted for Mitt.
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    With Curtis, Romney and McAdams, Utah has some sensible people in their congressional delegation. Now let's hope we can keep that repugnant narscissist Chaffetz from becoming governor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    He's such an upgrade over suckupy Hatch. Glad I voted for Mitt.
    You voted for RMoney? I guess you didn't remember the RollingStone article where they called him "the perfect frontman for Wall Street’s greed revolution"...

    Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital
    How the GOP presidential candidate and his private equity firm staged an epic wealth grab, destroyed jobs – and stuck others with the bill
    [...]
    Last May, in a much-touted speech in Iowa, Romney used language that was literally inflammatory to describe America’s federal borrowing. “A prairie fire of debt is sweeping across Iowa and our nation,” he declared. “Every day we fail to act, that fire gets closer to the homes and children we love.” Our collective debt is no ordinary problem: According to Mitt, it’s going to burn our children alive.


    And this is where we get to the hypocrisy at the heart of Mitt Romney. Everyone knows that he is fantastically rich, having scored great success, the legend goes, as a “turnaround specialist,” a shrewd financial operator who revived moribund companies as a high-priced consultant for a storied Wall Street private equity firm. But what most voters don’t know is the way Mitt Romney actually made his fortune: by borrowing vast sums of money that other people were forced to pay back. This is the plain, stark reality that has somehow eluded America’s top political journalists for two consecutive presidential campaigns: Mitt Romney is one of the greatest and most irresponsible debt creators of all time. In the past few decades, in fact, Romney has piled more debt onto more unsuspecting companies, written more gigantic checks that other people have to cover, than perhaps all but a handful of people on planet Earth.

    [...]
    Mitt Romney, it turns out, is the perfect frontman for Wall Street’s greed revolution. He’s not a two-bit, shifty-eyed huckster like Lloyd Blankfein. He’s not a sighing, eye-rolling, arrogant jerkwad like Jamie Dimon. But Mitt believes the same things those guys believe: He’s been right with them on the front lines of the financialization revolution, a decades-long campaign in which the old, simple, let’s-make-stuff-and-sell-it manufacturing economy was replaced with a new, highly complex, let’s-take-stuff-and-trash-it financial economy. Instead of cars and airplanes, we built swaps, CDOs and other toxic financial products. Instead of building new companies from the ground up, we took out massive bank loans and used them to acquire existing firms, liquidating every asset in sight and leaving the target companies holding the note. The new borrow-and-conquer economy was morally sanctified by an almost religious faith in the grossly euphemistic concept of “creative destruction,” and amounted to a total abdication of collective responsibility by America’s rich, whose new thing was making assloads of money in ever-shorter campaigns of economic conquest, sending the proceeds offshore, and shrugging as the great towns and factories their parents and grandparents built were shuttered and boarded up, crushed by a true prairie fire of debt.
    [...]
    Obama ran on “change” in 2008, but Mitt Romney represents a far more real and seismic shift in the American landscape. Romney is the frontman and apostle of an economic revolution, in which transactions are manufactured instead of products, wealth is generated without accompanying prosperity, and Cayman Islands partnerships are lovingly erected and nurtured while American communities fall apart. The entire purpose of the business model that Romney helped pioneer is to move money into the archipelago from the places outside it, using massive amounts of taxpayer-subsidized debt to enrich a handful of billionaires. It’s a vision of society that’s crazy, vicious and almost unbelievably selfish, yet it’s running for president, and it has a chance of winning. Perhaps that change is coming whether we like it or not. Perhaps Mitt Romney is the best man to manage the transition. But it seems a little early to vote for that kind of wholesale surrender.
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...apital-183291/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    You voted for RMoney? I guess you didn't remember the RollingStone article where they called him "the perfect frontman for Wall Street’s greed revolution"...


    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...apital-183291/
    I didn't know you voted for Obama ... the article clearly was written in support of Obama's re-election so, it must be—wow, you voted for Obama?

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    ‘Worthwhile Romney Initiative’

    The best Mitt Romney in 2018 can do is to recycle Republican Party boilerplate. These vanilla mandarins learn nothing. Trump has certainly damaged US leadership in some serious ways, but is returning to the liberal-internationalist status quo what we want, or need? No.

    [...]

    Honestly, who could possibly rally behind that mealy-mouthed message, or the man delivering it? I say this as a conservative who is sick and tired of Donald Trump’s big mouth, corruption, instability, and incompetence. But if it means going back to the Republican Party as it existed before Trump, no sale. Trump has no vision, and no political skills to get meaningful things done. But Romney’s op-ed — which reads like a sermon in the religion of High Jebbery — reminds us why Trump knocked the rest of the 2016 Republican field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    ‘Worthwhile Romney Initiative’

    The best Mitt Romney in 2018 can do is to recycle Republican Party boilerplate. These vanilla mandarins learn nothing. Trump has certainly damaged US leadership in some serious ways, but is returning to the liberal-internationalist status quo what we want, or need? No.

    [...]

    Honestly, who could possibly rally behind that mealy-mouthed message, or the man delivering it? I say this as a conservative who is sick and tired of Donald Trump’s big mouth, corruption, instability, and incompetence. But if it means going back to the Republican Party as it existed before Trump, no sale. Trump has no vision, and no political skills to get meaningful things done. But Romney’s op-ed — which reads like a sermon in the religion of High Jebbery — reminds us why Trump knocked the rest of the 2016 Republican field.
    Wow, if you are this threatened by Romney then that explains why Trump is obviously as threatened as he is ... very telling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tooblue View Post
    I didn't know you voted for Obama ... the article clearly was written in support of Obama's re-election so, it must be—wow, you voted for Obama?
    Nope... voted for Ron Paul in the primaries then "wasted my vote" on Johnson/Gray in the general. That article just helped confirm that RMoney wasn't for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    ‘Worthwhile Romney Initiative’

    The best Mitt Romney in 2018 can do is to recycle Republican Party boilerplate. These vanilla mandarins learn nothing. Trump has certainly damaged US leadership in some serious ways, but is returning to the liberal-internationalist status quo what we want, or need? No.

    [...]

    Honestly, who could possibly rally behind that mealy-mouthed message, or the man delivering it? I say this as a conservative who is sick and tired of Donald Trump’s big mouth, corruption, instability, and incompetence. But if it means going back to the Republican Party as it existed before Trump, no sale. Trump has no vision, and no political skills to get meaningful things done. But Romney’s op-ed — which reads like a sermon in the religion of High Jebbery — reminds us why Trump knocked the rest of the 2016 Republican field.
    LOL.

    Didn't Drumpf give RMoney his endorsement? And Flip-Flop RMoney accepted it! The carpetbagger pulled a fast one on Utah.

    Even his niece is disappointed with her Uncle RMoney...

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    So what's the difference between a Globalist and a Liberal-Internationalist? Enquiring minds want to know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Nope... voted for Ron Paul in the primaries then "wasted my vote" on Johnson/Gray in the general. That article just helped confirm that RMoney wasn't for me.
    There are reasons not to vote for Romney, but I'm embarrassed for you if that article was the decisive factor. It's a very ignorant, one-sided screed. NPR's articles/broadcasts about AMPAD and several Romney successes were more balanced and far less derogatory. Romney was a vastly smarter and better businessman than the huckster Trump. Meanwhile, I suspect Gary Johnson is still trying to decide whether to balance his checkbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    There are reasons not to vote for Romney...
    Um no there’s not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    ‘Worthwhile Romney Initiative’

    The best Mitt Romney in 2018 can do is to recycle Republican Party boilerplate. These vanilla mandarins learn nothing. Trump has certainly damaged US leadership in some serious ways, but is returning to the liberal-internationalist status quo what we want, or need? No.

    [...]

    Honestly, who could possibly rally behind that mealy-mouthed message, or the man delivering it? I say this as a conservative who is sick and tired of Donald Trump’s big mouth, corruption, instability, and incompetence. But if it means going back to the Republican Party as it existed before Trump, no sale. Trump has no vision, and no political skills to get meaningful things done. But Romney’s op-ed — which reads like a sermon in the religion of High Jebbery — reminds us why Trump knocked the rest of the 2016 Republican field.
    breaking news, trumpers dont like trump being criticized

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    There are reasons not to vote for Romney, but I'm embarrassed for you if that article was the decisive factor. It's a very ignorant, one-sided screed. NPR's articles/broadcasts about AMPAD and several Romney successes were more balanced and far less derogatory. Romney was a vastly smarter and better businessman than the huckster Trump. Meanwhile, I suspect Gary Johnson is still trying to decide whether to balance his checkbook.
    What? Are you saying that RollingStone is #fakenews? Does Frank know that you feel this way?


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    Love Mitt. Talked to him just the other day.

    Also had Ann sign a cookbook for my mom.
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    I read the Washington Post Op-Ed written by Mitt Romney and was glad to see that he's not sucking up to Trump like nearly every other republican. I agree with pretty much everything that he wrote. There may be hope for the republican party after all, despite all of the corruption we've witnessed lately.

    It will be interesting to see if Romney will continue to stand for what is right rather than doing whatever Trump and the republicans tell him to do. I'm not nearly as concerned with what happened years ago, like some of you, rather than where we're headed in the future. That's what really matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooblue View Post
    I didn't know you voted for Obama ... the article clearly was written in support of Obama's re-election so, it must be—wow, you voted for Obama?
    If only you had known what Rolling Stone thought of Romney!
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    Nice words from Romney. Still, the skepticism as to whether he will actually do something to push back on Trump's worst impulses has a basis as well.

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    Rolling Stone. Lol. Uncle Ted not even trying anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    Still, the skepticism as to whether he will actually do something to push back on Trump's worst impulses has a basis as well.
    This. Hatch voted with Trump 96.4% of the time. Mike Lee voted with Trump 78.6% of the time. Let's see where Romney lands.

    FYI. Former Senator Flake voted with Trump 81.3% of the time... the 5th lowest among his Republican colleagues.

    Rand Paul has voted with Trump only 72.8% of the time... the 2nd lowest among Republicans. Kyl edged Paul out with a 71.4% alignment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    Nice words from Romney. Still, the skepticism as to whether he will actually do something to push back on Trump's worst impulses has a basis as well.
    RMoney accepted Drumpf's endorsement and, now, he flip-flops. True to character... He should have never accepted Drumpf's endorsement.



    Something else to add to his collection. With RMoney you don't know what the hell his is for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    This. Hatch voted with Trump 96.4% of the time. Mike Lee voted with Trump 78.6% of the time. Let's see where Romney lands.

    FYI. Former Senator Flake voted with Trump 81.3% of the time... the 5th lowest among his Republican colleagues.

    Rand Paul has voted with Trump only 72.8% of the time... the 2nd lowest among Republicans. Kyl edged Paul out with a 71.4% alignment.
    God bless Rand Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    RMoney accepted Drumpf's endorsement and, now, he flip-flops. True to character... He should have never accepted Drumpf's endorsement.



    Something else to add to his collection. With RMoney you don't know what the hell his is for.
    Don't we have a thread for this somewhere? Oh well ...

    Was Romney right about everything:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4dd05fd5089e

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...out-everything

    He was even right about what he supposedly got wrong. Those car manufacturing jobs are ... :

    https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=7487027&page=1

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ts/2113275002/

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooblue View Post
    Don't we have a thread for this somewhere? Oh well ...

    Was Romney right about everything:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4dd05fd5089e

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...out-everything

    He was even right about what he supposedly got wrong. Those car manufacturing jobs are ... :

    https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=7487027&page=1

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ts/2113275002/
    LOL... RMoney is only right because he flip-flops and is on both sides of the issues.

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