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Brother Brigham was one interesting cat
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"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by Shaka View PostOh whatever. Revisionist history sucks no matter the context. Condemning Brigham for attitudes that were common for the time is pure folly. If it wasn't you'd probably hate your grandparents. This applies to virtually everything including race, politics, and freaky religious doctrine that wasn't only common to Mormons.Last edited by Jeff Lebowski; 02-01-2018, 10:28 AM."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostI rest my case"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostNone of that was substantially different from what JS did."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by old_gregg View Postmy grandparents weren't prophets, seers and revelators of a church offering its members the fulness of the gospel and a direct line of revelation from god.
Just like the religious leaders of today Brigham probably wasn't commanded in all things nor was he miraculously relieved of his experience and bias when he became prophet. Just like JS he's a flawed character who was most likely doing his best. I'm going to cut both of them some slack.
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI am not going to claim that it was widespread in American society at large, but it is very much true that religious movements in America at that time were engaging in many experiments relative to marriage and sexuality. The Shakers decided that nobody should be married. There were other groups that went the other way, including plural marriage. One religious group decided that people in their community could engage in sex freely with whomever. Of course, that attracted a lot of outside curiosity to see how it was working out. A few early LDS leaders visited them and BY said they were crazy."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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The Missionary Pal thread has some interesting stuff I found from BY in the Journal of Discourses."Yeah, but never trust a Ph.D who has an MBA as well. The PhD symbolizes intelligence and discipline. The MBA symbolizes lust for power." -- Katy Lied
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostThat still happens today in religion, sort of... Sigheh is a temporary marriage in Islam. They can last a little as a few minutes. I guess it depends on how quick they are."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by Topper View PostSpeak for yourself Kimosabe."Yeah, but never trust a Ph.D who has an MBA as well. The PhD symbolizes intelligence and discipline. The MBA symbolizes lust for power." -- Katy Lied
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Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostThere are temporary marriages of as little as a few minutes out there so exquisite that if you had an inkling of the kind of temporary marriages you are missing, you would be crushed and debilitated under an intolerable weight of despair and regret."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by All-American View PostOoh, mixing tu and vosotrosPrepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
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I feel obligated to bring a sense of normalcy to this jumbled up perspective of polygamy and polyandry.
In my attempts to justify the debacle of polygamy et al., I believe that JS misinterpreted the "Grand Vision of the Prophets" and when it was his turn to view The Lord's video production (as did Moses, Lehi and Nephi and others) which could have been titled: World's Without End; Alpha to Omega, Joseph walked out of the theater wondering what he had just seen - and with little education - he got lost about the part of multiple dimensions of existence - and focused on the conclusion where he was sealed to multiple women (perhaps hundreds or thousands) in the realm of the Celestial Kingdom. Thinking - "if that's the case" - I'd better get busy... Joseph started perusing woman to make the middle meet the end. Thus a simple mistake of understanding turned into a peeled off thread of a rouge dimension where we are living out the effects of that moment.
In another dimension Joseph "got it right" and polygamy never existed and he died of old age in California with Sam Brannen as the Second prophet of the Church, and we would all be fans of SBU Football (The Fighting Merchants) in the Bay Area.
Before making fun of me... come up with a plausible explanation on your own on regarding the doctrine of polygamy.
When poet puts pen to paper imagination breathes life, finding hearth and home.
-Mid Summer's Night Dream
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Originally posted by Topper View PostSU y tu podéis obtener una pinche habitacion!"Yeah, but never trust a Ph.D who has an MBA as well. The PhD symbolizes intelligence and discipline. The MBA symbolizes lust for power." -- Katy Lied
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostJust for the record (since we all know this and it's been rehashed over and over), here's a list of his doctrines that have been changed or rejected by the church:
Polygamy
Polyandry
Blood Atonement
Adam-God doctrine
Blacks and the priesthood"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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