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    I had a "spiritual prompting" that it was the right decision to propose to my wife during a talk given by DHO in conference. The future wife and I were on a vacation in Utah and actually attended a session of conference. A lot can change in nearly 11 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    I had a "spiritual prompting" that it was the right decision to propose to my wife during a talk given by DHO in conference. The future wife and I were on a vacation in Utah and actually attended a session of conference. A lot can change in nearly 11 years.
    I hope you still consider it the right decision, funk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    I had a "spiritual prompting" that it was the right decision to propose to my wife during a talk given by DHO in conference. The future wife and I were on a vacation in Utah and actually attended a session of conference. A lot can change in nearly 11 years.

    You proposed to your wife while attending a general conference session? Cool beans, but your fate with the church was pretty much sealed right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I hope you still consider it the right decision, funk.
    Without question the right decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    Without question the right decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post

    You proposed to your wife while attending a general conference session? Cool beans, but your fate with the church was pretty much sealed right there.
    Nah the proposal happened later. The "spiritual confirmation" occurred at that GC session.

    It is odd though looking back at how much my belief system has changed.
    The crux of what has traumatized us about CUF/CG is that we thought they were our friends. And their identity as BYU fans turned out to be the most important thing to them. What empty lives! What a damning indictment of the LDS Church!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    I remember specifically noticing how DHO's shoulders bounced when he laughed
    I remember this as well.

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    I don't know if this has been addressed in one of the other threads, but I just heard today that Elder Eyring (and his wife, incidentally) has severe, disabling dementia. If true, that changes my thoughts on how much meaning this "demotion" has.

    Obviously, I don't blame anyone who is skeptical. I'm not as much, simply because I know the source, who would know (and maybe shouldn't be sharing that info--which is why I'm not specifying who it is). We can skip the obligatory and obvious objection that this is secondhand info from an unnamed source. I'm not really interested in making the point, just curious if this is common knowledge or not.

    EDIT: Actually, this is thirdhand info--a friend (who is out of the church) told me, and that person is friends with the person who would know. So appropriate skepticism. I haven't seen evidence of it, but I haven't been paying attention.
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    his wife's dementia is common knowledge
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    Quote Originally Posted by ERCougar View Post
    I don't know if this has been addressed in one of the other threads, but I just heard today that Elder Eyring (and his wife, incidentally) has severe, disabling dementia. If true, that changes my thoughts on how much meaning this "demotion" has.

    Obviously, I don't blame anyone who is skeptical. I'm not as much, simply because I know the source, who would know (and maybe shouldn't be sharing that info--which is why I'm not specifying who it is). We can skip the obligatory and obvious objection that this is secondhand info from an unnamed source. I'm not really interested in making the point, just curious if this is common knowledge or not.
    It's clear he's not as quick or as sharp as he used to be. In that press conference, I couldn't exactly tell, but it seemed like he took step by step very deliberately and took a long time to make the short distance in to his chair. I felt bad for him. I don't know if that kind of thing in old people is purely physical or related to dementia. The way he answered questions didn't seem like the Eyring we've gotten used to knowing over the past 20 years, who is as sharp as they come.

    I think it's getting to the point where it's critical they put in an emeritus apostle plan. With modern science extending average life span, it's going to become more and more likely that a large portion of them are not fully functioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay santos View Post
    It's clear he's not as quick or as sharp as he used to be. In that press conference, I couldn't exactly tell, but it seemed like he took step by step very deliberately and took a long time to make the short distance in to his chair. I felt bad for him. I don't know if that kind of thing in old people is purely physical or related to dementia. The way he answered questions didn't seem like the Eyring we've gotten used to knowing over the past 20 years, who is as sharp as they come.

    I think it's getting to the point where it's critical they put in an emeritus apostle plan. With modern science extending average life span, it's going to become more and more likely that a large portion of them are not fully functioning.
    This has been discussed for years. It's in place for all other positions and why it's not in place for this important position is understandable given pronouncements but not very practical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    This has been discussed for years. It's in place for all other positions and why it's not in place for this important position is understandable given pronouncements but not very practical.
    Probably don't want to pay those outrageous apostle salaries for more than 15 people and lease more than 15 Avalons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    Probably don't want to pay those outrageous apostle salaries for more than 15 people and lease more than 15 Avalons.
    Lol. Please no more Avalons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    Probably don't want to pay those outrageous apostle salaries for more than 15 people and lease more than 15 Avalons.
    that's legitimately funny.

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    As for emeritus several prophets declined in later years. What would of happened if Marion outlived Ezra. He was second in line when he had zero capacity. Fortunately he went to Heaven first. Dilemma there. Almost anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grapevine View Post
    As for emeritus several prophets declined in later years. What would of happened if Marion outlived Ezra. He was second in line when he had zero capacity. Fortunately he went to Heaven first. Dilemma there. Almost anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grapevine View Post
    As for emeritus several prophets declined in later years. What would of happened if Marion outlived Ezra. He was second in line when he had zero capacity. Fortunately he went to Heaven first. Dilemma there. Almost anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    Only HF and JC can say who goes to heaven, no man can make that decision.
    I believed you the first time, tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    I believed you the first time, tbh.
    Just wanted to make sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    Only HF and JC can say who goes to heaven, no man can make that decision.
    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    Only HF and JC can say who goes to heaven, no man can make that decision.
    I remember hearing in seminary once that when it came down to it, we would judge ourselves. Now I'm confused.

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