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"They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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Originally posted by DrumNFeather View PostIt's hard to imagine that he'll just fade into the background. He remains a great ambassador and influence. His worldwide devotional on Sunday is a great example of that. I think we'll see plenty of DFU in the coming months and years."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostNobody on this board could be a bigger DFU fan than me, but I didn't see this as any kind of symbolic swipe against his popularity or progressive nature. DHO is next in line to be the prophet. Makes total sense to put him in the presidency. Anyone who sees any meaning beyond that is looking to stir up drama.
That being said, the biggest downside of this is that we will likely get to hear fewer DFU talks in GC. Bummer. DHO talks are a little too legalistic for my tastes.
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostNobody on this board could be a bigger DFU fan than me, but I didn't see this as any kind of symbolic swipe against his popularity or progressive nature. DHO is next in line to be the prophet. Makes total sense to put him in the presidency. Anyone who sees any meaning beyond that is looking to stir up drama.
That being said, the biggest downside of this is that we will likely get to hear fewer DFU talks in GC. Bummer. DHO talks are a little too legalistic for my tastes."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by jay santos View PostIt's happened only once in the last 100 years over 16 data points. And he replaced the guy that's universally known as the most Progressive with the one that's universally known as the most hardliner. And anyone who thinks it means anything is looking to stir up drama? Sorry, disagree."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostI don't see anything nefarious about the change. But if this was a move solely to get DHO ready to be prophet, why not move Eyring out and keep Uchtdorf in? I doubt many people would be upset about that. I suspect that if shaking up the counselors was a deliberate choice to get DHO in, keeping Erying might represent wanting counselors who are more akin to Nelson philosophically. And if Oaks/Erying is closer with Nelson on the LGBT issue, I don't think it's a stretch to consider that it might have played some role in that decision."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostI don't see anything nefarious about the change. But if this was a move solely to get DHO ready to be prophet, why not move Eyring out and keep Uchtdorf in? I doubt many people would be upset about that. I suspect that if shaking up the counselors was a deliberate choice to get DHO in, keeping Erying might represent wanting counselors who are more akin to Nelson philosophically. And if Oaks/Erying is closer with Nelson on the LGBT issue, I don't think it's a stretch to consider that it might have played some role in that decision."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostStep off the ledge, Jay. This is the 6th time in the last 100 years.
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Originally posted by jay santos View PostOnly once has a previous counselor got dropped out of 16 data points. Hugh B. Brown snubbed by Joseph Fielding Smith. Two if you include Marion G. Romney, but he was not functioning health wise."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostSo the whole thing was conspired to get a hardcore anti-LGBT crew in charge? Good grief.
It doesn't take a 'conspiracy' to explain at least some of the choices church presidents make. Hell, if it's anything like what we see in the church in general, it isn't hard to fathom that church presidents are also moved by personal preferences."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by jay santos View PostOnly once has a previous counselor got dropped out of 16 data points. Hugh B. Brown snubbed by Joseph Fielding Smith. Two if you include Marion G. Romney, but he was not functioning health wise.
Sorry, I miscounted. Five times.
Hugh B. Brown, First Counselor to David O. McKay, not retained as a counselor by Joseph Fielding Smith
Thorpe B. Isaacson and Alvin R. Dyer, Counselors to David O. McKay, not retained as counselors by Joseph Fielding Smith
Marion G. Romney, First Counselor to Spencer W. Kimball, not retained as a counselor by Ezra Taft Benson
Dieter F. Uchtdorf, Second Counselor to Thomas S. Monson, not retained as a counselor by Russell M. Nelson
What is so sacrosanct about being a member of the FP? The prior FP members were selected by a prior president. Each president should have complete discretion in terms of who he selects. And why does the selection of one person have to be interpreted as some kind of insult or repudiation on another person?
Sorry, but the prog-mo drama on this I am seeing right now on social media makes me want to barf."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostSorry, I miscounted. Five times.
Hugh B. Brown, First Counselor to David O. McKay, not retained as a counselor by Joseph Fielding Smith
Thorpe B. Isaacson and Alvin R. Dyer, Counselors to David O. McKay, not retained as counselors by Joseph Fielding Smith
Marion G. Romney, First Counselor to Spencer W. Kimball, not retained as a counselor by Ezra Taft Benson
Dieter F. Uchtdorf, Second Counselor to Thomas S. Monson, not retained as a counselor by Russell M. Nelson
What is so sacrosanct about being a member of the FP? The prior FP members were selected by a prior president. Each president should have complete discretion in terms of who he selects. And why does the selection of one person have to be interpreted as some kind of insult or repudiation on another person?
Sorry, but the prog-mo drama on this I am seeing right now on social media makes me want to barf.
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