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    A great man. I will bet he is happy being reunited with his friends and love ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Whoops sorry. Should be LTP. L Tom Perry.
    How embarrassing.

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    I listened to KSL radio's bio of him on the way home from work last night - about midnight. In the 15 minutes it took to get home, they never said he had passed away, but I figured he must have or they wouldn't be airing it. He was the last apostle from my youth.

    I always liked him. I had one of his conference talks on a cassette (I'm dating myself again) that I listened to a lot on my mission.

    My mother was one the guides at the Beehive House (before they turned it over to the missionary department) for years and saw him frequently. He was always very friendly and even remembered her name.

    RIP and God's Speed TSM
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    A sad day. Til we meet again, TSM.

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    That NYTimes bio is dumb. What a bunch of wimps to take such a low blow at someone upon their passing. Just off the top of my head, I can think of the following decent things that chagned in the church while TMo was president:

    - Mission age lowered for young women to an age that makes sense if they want to serve
    - Making the women's general meeting officially part of general conference
    - Putting that same meeting on equal footing with the Priesthood meeting in terms of frequency and time slot
    - Getting the priests/teachers out of the BSA and thus improving any budget difference between the YM/YW for those ages
    - Coke is now sold at BYU
    - Support for the antidiscrimation law that passed in Utah
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    The NY Times is a good article on his legacy.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/o...imes&smtyp=cur
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    That NYTimes bio is dumb. What a bunch of wimps to take such a low blow at someone upon their passing. Just off the top of my head, I can think of the following decent things that chagned in the church while TMo was president:

    - Mission age lowered for young women to an age that makes sense if they want to serve
    - Making the women's general meeting officially part of general conference
    - Putting that same meeting on equal footing with the Priesthood meeting in terms of frequency and time slot
    - Getting the priests/teachers out of the BSA and thus improving any budget difference between the YM/YW for those ages
    - Coke is now sold at BYU
    - Support for the antidiscrimation law that passed in Utah
    Don't forget that the Utes went 8-1 during the cougars during his presidency. Definitely a man of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Don't forget that the Utes went 8-1 during the cougars during his presidency. Definitely a man of God.
    I was just focusing on the positive things that happened during his presidency.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    That NYTimes bio is dumb. What a bunch of wimps to take such a low blow at someone upon their passing. Just off the top of my head, I can think of the following decent things that chagned in the church while TMo was president:

    - Mission age lowered for young women to an age that makes sense if they want to serve
    - Making the women's general meeting officially part of general conference
    - Putting that same meeting on equal footing with the Priesthood meeting in terms of frequency and time slot
    - Getting the priests/teachers out of the BSA and thus improving any budget difference between the YM/YW for those ages
    - Coke is now sold at BYU
    - Support for the antidiscrimation law that passed in Utah
    The New York Times... All the news that fit to make up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Don't forget that the Utes went 8-1 during the cougars during his presidency. Definitely a man of God.
    You probably lifted that from that disrespectful NYT article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    You probably lifted that from that disrespectful NYT article.
    I doubt that TSM considers that fact disrespectful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Whoops sorry. Should be LTP. L Tom Perry.
    I remember L. Tom Perry sitting on the front row at almost every BYU home basketball game going way back to when I was 7 or 8 years old when my dad first started taking me to them. Sorry USU people, but he was a huge BYU fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    lol


    Meh, he's just another LDS national writer whining about bad coverage.

    Just kidding, he makes a valid point. Looks like the NYT might be hiring obituary writers from the SL Trib.

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    I didn't particularly care for his speaking style, but I think he was a great man, and I'll miss him.

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    NYT getting blasted by a lot of national media. No surprise that Funk thought it was a great article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    NYT getting blasted by a lot of national media. No surprise that Funk thought it was a great article.
    Links?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    That tale appears to be the same tale.

    Name of person. Role of person. A group the person opposed. The age the person died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    That tale appears to be the same tale.

    Name of person. Role of person. A group the person opposed. The age the person died.
    I'm interested to know whether you place Fidel Castro on the same moral plane as President Monson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by All-American View Post
    I'm interested to know whether you place Fidel Castro on the same moral plane as President Monson.
    I do not place them on the same moral plane at all. Castro was obviously a much worse human being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    That tale appears to be the same tale.

    Name of person. Role of person. A group the person opposed. The age the person died.
    You dont see the difference? Castro's is like "Attaboy!" and TSM's is like "what a loser!"
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    The two headlines together of Castro and Monson, def comes across as bad form by the NYT. I honestly thought the article itself was a nice write up. The NYT is left of center and is opposed to anything that is perceived as anti-gay or anti-progressive, they didn't take any shots at Monson, just stated that he didn't back down from attempts from people to pressure him. It read as Monson being a man who stood for what he believed in, despite those beliefs becoming less popular socially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    The two headlines together of Castro and Monson, def comes across as bad form by the NYT. I honestly thought the article itself was a nice write up. The NYT is left of center and is opposed to anything that is perceived as anti-gay or anti-progressive, they didn't take any shots at Monson, just stated that he didn't back down from attempts from people to pressure him. It read as Monson being a man who stood for what he believed in, despite those beliefs becoming less popular socially.
    Thats how you read it; that's not how the primary part of its left of center following would read it. Just ask our old buddy SU what it meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    I do not place them on the same moral plane at all. Castro was obviously a much worse human being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Just ask our old buddy SU what it meant.
    Subtext, man. Subtext.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    The two headlines together of Castro and Monson, def comes across as bad form by the NYT. I honestly thought the article itself was a nice write up. The NYT is left of center and is opposed to anything that is perceived as anti-gay or anti-progressive, they didn't take any shots at Monson, just stated that he didn't back down from attempts from people to pressure him. It read as Monson being a man who stood for what he believed in, despite those beliefs becoming less popular socially.
    That was certainly a very generous spin to that article. I wouldn't characterize the article as positive of Monson because of the emphasis on LBGQT issues. Monson's presidential legacy is directly tied to Prop 8 and the exclusion of gay parent's children from baptism. To outsiders, not exactly a positive image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post

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