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    Quote Originally Posted by All-American View Post
    People on CB are saying Achilles....

    Good grief, what an awful year.
    It kinda looked like something just popped ... hope it isn't his Achilles. Make's me feel sick to my stomach.

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    Lucky flag. No way was Jonah going to get that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by All-American View Post
    Lucky flag. No way was Jonah going to get that.
    He didn't seem too concerned about getting it, either, TBH.
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    What in hades was that play call?

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    Awful play call. You have to be able to run the ball for a yard.
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    Why did he take that punt? Good heavens we are stoopid.
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    This team just finds new ways to lose. Amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJF View Post
    This team just finds new ways to lose. Amazing.
    Some combination of soft and cursed, also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJF View Post
    This team just finds new ways to lose. Amazing.
    Eerily reminiscent of the Crowton teams.
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    There it is. An incredible convergence of bad luck, bad coaching, and bad play the likes of which we have never seen in our lives.

    Unbelievable.
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    Fitting end. Fumble on a nice play and a hurt player to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Eerily reminiscent of the Crowton teams.
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJF View Post
    This team just finds new ways to lose. Amazing.
    Bad teams find ways to lose.

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    Cmon bulldogs, kick a FG. Give me the 10 margin of victory!

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    Wow, wow, wow.
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    Dammit we lost bowl eligibility!!!


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    Well, that loss was straight up coaching.

    So many stupid mistakes and bad calls. Oh well.

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    When BYU was bad in the Crowton era I cared a lot. I’ll sleep just fine tonight.
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    I realize BYU has a talent issue, but in my mind this season is 90% on coaching.

    The offensive play calling sucks and Ty shows no ability to adjust. The defensive players look lost and are getting beat consistently. There is more testicular fortitude at a intersectional feminist rally than with this team. They are soft and getting pushed around on the field. Close to 40 injuries this year. Crappy coaching goes all the way down to the conditioning staff. Is there a coaching bright spot in this staff at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USUC View Post
    I realize BYU has a talent issue, but in my mind this season is 90% on coaching.

    The offensive play calling sucks and Ty shows no ability to adjust. The defensive players look lost and are getting beat consistently. There is more testicular fortitude at a intersectional feminist rally than with this team. They are soft and getting pushed around on the field. Close to 40 injuries this year. Crappy coaching goes all the way down to the conditioning staff. Is there a coaching bright spot in this staff at all?
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    If we covered the spread, I call it a win now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USUC View Post
    I realize BYU has a talent issue, but in my mind this season is 90% on coaching.

    The offensive play calling sucks and Ty shows no ability to adjust. The defensive players look lost and are getting beat consistently. There is more testicular fortitude at a intersectional feminist rally than with this team. They are soft and getting pushed around on the field. Close to 40 injuries this year. Crappy coaching goes all the way down to the conditioning staff. Is there a coaching bright spot in this staff at all?
    How do you adjust with a revolving door at QB, no RBs and a crappy Oline? Oh, and those are the strong points. Our receivers wouldn't start on Bingham High or Bishop Gorm.
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    Sad thing is our offense was showing signs of real improvement until Tanner got hurt. Steps forward, steps backward.

    What really stands out are the failures to convert on 4th down. The second play call is hard to understand, but at the same time, we tried hammering them with a fullback the first time and THAT didn't work. We had a mobile quarterback on the run with open receivers down the field. Maybe that wasn't the best play to call, but it's too easy for us fans to bag on calls when the only difference we can see between brilliance and stupidity is whether it works.

    Here's hoping we can get it together for next year.
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    I think it’s reasonable to say that type of 4th down call (roll-out, run pass option) is less likely to work than a handoff or qB sneak. Thought this was interesting. http://sports.sites.yale.edu/success...es-fourth-down

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    I think it’s reasonable to say that type of 4th down call (roll-out, run pass option) is less likely to work than a handoff or qB sneak. Thought this was interesting. http://sports.sites.yale.edu/success...es-fourth-down
    Basically what I would have expected. One thing the article doesn't account for, however, is the chance of gaining anything more than 2 yards. If they are stacking the line in hopes of stuffing you on 4th and 1, they're likely vacating some spaces and opening up some opportunities. The trade off between the more sure fire way of picking up the first and the chance to get further down the field may make it worth taking a chance.

    This article seems to consider only the benefit of converting and does not consider the value of getting further downfield. That likely means it is overstating the benefit of running a QB sneak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by All-American View Post
    Basically what I would have expected. One thing the article doesn't account for, however, is the chance of gaining anything more than 2 yards. If they are stacking the line in hopes of stuffing you on 4th and 1, they're likely vacating some spaces and opening up some opportunities. The trade off between the more sure fire way of picking up the first and the chance to get further down the field may make it worth taking a chance.

    This article seems to consider only the benefit of converting and does not consider the value of getting further downfield. That likely means it is overstating the benefit of running a QB sneak.
    This also suggests, by the way, that the timeout FSU took just before the 4th down was awfully important. If stacking protection against a QB sneak opens up opportunities then realizing that we were going to run a conventional play allowed them to reset.
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