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    Quote Originally Posted by originalsocal View Post
    I think one of the big problems here is that yes, Ty is a sacrificial lamb for Sitake, but Ty is better suited as the SL for Tom Holmoe. I don't for a minute believe that Kalani chose Ty Detmer. It was more like, "Kalani, we will let you be the HC if Ty Detmer is your OC". Now I don't believe Sitake is blameless, but the guy who should be sweating IMO is Tom Holmoe. This was a calculated risk to bring in Ty, I understand, but I would hope that we would allow the HC to chose who his assistants are. The OC and the HC, especially at BYU need to be on the same page. I go back to the presser the staff held two years ago. Ty was up there mentioning the names of walk-ons, an NCAA violation. Right then and there, Kalani had to be pissing in his pants. Ty is smart, and I think could eventually become a good OC, but he was WAAAAAY too green for this. He was not the right hire to begin with...that lies on the shoulders of Tom Holmoe.
    I think this is the first time I've read this take, that Ty was Holmoe's decision and he essentially forced it on Sitake. Maybe it's been posted before; I'm less involved in this thread. It's interesting. Does anyone else here feel the same way?

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    I think Sitake was down with it but it was Holmoe’s decision.


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    I'll take hoops in AAC over WCC any day.

    The whole "P6" thing means nothing. They are the best G5 conference, but they are no where near P5 in terms of prestige, money or exposure. Just calling yourself P6 doesn't do anything in the big picture of college football. No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flystripper View Post
    I think Sitake was down with it but it was Holmoe’s decision.


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    There certainly is precedent for this. I recall Crowton was asked to retain all the assistant left behind by LE and Robert Anae was hired as the OC prior to Bronco being installed as the HC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCoug View Post
    The whole "P6" thing means nothing. They are the best G5 conference, but they are no where near P5 in terms of prestige, money or exposure. Just calling yourself P6 doesn't do anything in the big picture of college football. No thanks.
    It doesn't, but it's essentially our current strategy but without the easier access to a NY bowl game (not that I harbor any real illusions about that, I promise) and without friends. I'm sure we make more tv money with independence but that doesn't seem to have made much of a functional difference to the program over the past 5 years.

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    New rumor on Twitter is Andy Ludwig. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    New rumor on Twitter is Andy Ludwig. Thoughts?
    Eff that. I'd rather have ARod who is going to be the next OC anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    New rumor on Twitter is Andy Ludwig. Thoughts?
    Sweet this means there will be two fanbases who can greet each other by saying "Fire Ludwig!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Sweet this means there will be two fanbases who can greet each other by saying "Fire Ludwig!"
    Let's see...Aaron Roderick, Norm Chow, Andy Ludwig. I get trying to steal some of Kyle's defensive fairy dust, but trying to emulate Utah's offense over the years? Knock yourselves out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    New rumor on Twitter is Andy Ludwig. Thoughts?
    No.

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    Val Hale is the most annoying person in the history of my BYU sports fandom. He went on 960 last night and used the time to defend Crowton. Crowton's biggest fault was that he had success at first and then when the win total dropped a little, the vultures came. Bronco started out winning only "two or three games" his first year and then "6-6 or something" and people got used to low expecations, and he was fine.

    So you don't have to look it up, Bronco started 6-6 and then went 43-9 over the next four seasons. Crowton had three losing seasons in a row, at a time when we hadn't had any losing seasons for the prior 30 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Sweet this means there will be two fanbases who can greet each other by saying "Fire Ludwig!"
    Lol! Please let this happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by jay santos View Post
    Val Hale is the most annoying person in the history of my BYU sports fandom. He went on 960 last night and used the time to defend Crowton. Crowton's biggest fault was that he had success at first and then when the win total dropped a little, the vultures came. Bronco started out winning only "two or three games" his first year and then "6-6 or something" and people got used to low expecations, and he was fine.

    So you don't have to look it up, Bronco started 6-6 and then went 43-9 over the next four seasons. Crowton had three losing seasons in a row, at a time when we hadn't had any losing seasons for the prior 30 years.
    He and Merril Bateman need to be kicked in the nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    New rumor on Twitter is Andy Ludwig. Thoughts?
    It's A'Rod. KS needs a quick fix with somebody who knows the personnel. Otherwise, he's gonzo after next year, which he might be any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    He and Merril Bateman need to be kicked in the nuts.
    I volunteer and designate cowboy to do the honors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    It's A'Rod. KS needs a quick fix with somebody who knows the personnel. Otherwise, he's gonzo after next year, which he might be any way.
    Although I cringe a little at the thought of it, if it's not A'rod we are in a world of hurt. We need a smooth transition and A'rod is the only current candidate that provides that. A'rod has been in the program as a consultant for a year. He knows the names, faces, tendencies, personalities etc. Having a new face is riskier. Kalani has no room for risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by originalsocal View Post
    Although I cringe a little at the thought of it, if it's not A'rod we are in a world of hurt. We need a smooth transition and A'rod is the only current candidate that provides that. A'rod has been in the program as a consultant for a year. He knows the names, faces, tendencies, personalities etc. Having a new face is riskier. Kalani has no room for risk.
    I understand the logic and A'Rod is unlikely to be a permanent fix. If KS survives next year, then we can see if both coaches can grow. Do you believe that means most of the assistants will stay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    I volunteer and designate cowboy to do the honors.
    Every one of my brothers and myself will like to be added to that line to but-kick Bateman. That POS of weasel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by originalsocal View Post
    Although I cringe a little at the thought of it, if it's not A'rod we are in a world of hurt. We need a smooth transition and A'rod is the only current candidate that provides that. A'rod has been in the program as a consultant for a year. He knows the names, faces, tendencies, personalities etc. Having a new face is riskier. Kalani has no room for risk.
    We know Arod's ceiling is mediocre (being generous). Not sure why consulting on the worst year in 40 years is a positive. Shouldnt we want to run away from what we were doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabrockster View Post
    Every one of my brothers and myself will like to be added to that line to but-kick Bateman. That POS of weasel.


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    So why all the hate on Bateman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullyute View Post
    So why all the hate on Bateman?
    Screw you, Bateman lover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    We know Arod's ceiling is mediocre (being generous). Not sure why consulting on the worst year in 40 years is a positive. Shouldnt we want to run away from what we were doing?
    I didn't say it was a positive. He's just the only person with any experience that can provide any type of continuity. I don't disagree with what you're saying. I just think transitioning A'rod to OC is less risky. I could be wrong...either way I think we're screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullyute View Post
    So why all the hate on Bateman?
    Books could be written about his mismanagement. He was essentially fired as BYU Pres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by originalsocal View Post
    Books could be written about his mismanagement. He was essentially fired as BYU Pres.
    Really? I've never heard that. What specifically did he do wrong? Give me the vol. 1 dust jacket summary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by originalsocal View Post
    Books could be written about his mismanagement. He was essentially fired as BYU Pres.
    Then we ended up with Samuelson.
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    Man we're getting into BYU pres dirt. I'm unaware of any of their shortcomings-- do tell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    Man we're getting into BYU pres dirt. I'm unaware of any of their shortcomings-- do tell!
    Bateman got rid of wrestling so Dabrockster is showing fake rage again. Like when he pretends that Ohio State really deserved to get in the playoff over Bama.
    *Banned*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullyute View Post
    So why all the hate on Bateman?
    He is an arrogant asshat coward.. He is he reason BYU cut the wrestling program and when the community raised funds and wanted to meet with him he hid in his office and refused to meet with them..

    He did the same thing to BYU’s Gymnastic program that was also well ranked..

    I will never sustain that POS and if I ever saw him personally I would tell him to eff off and kick him in his woman parts cause he has no balls..


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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Bateman got rid of wrestling so Dabrockster is showing fake rage again. Like when he pretends that Ohio State really deserved to get in the playoff over Bama.




    Oh, and my rage is REAL! I’ll bet you a dollar how REAL it is..


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