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    Worst BYU team in my lifetime. That I can remember anyway, and I am an old dude. Time to blow things up and no better place to start than our hapless OC. Sorry Ty, but you are clearly not cut out for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Worst BYU team in my lifetime. That I can remember anyway, and I am an old dude. Time to blow things up and no better place to start than our hapless OC. Sorry Ty, but you are clearly not cut out for this.
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    Thirded, but is it just Ty? I don't think so...

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    Why stop at Ty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCoug View Post
    Thirded, but is it just Ty? I don't think so...
    It isn't just Ty, but it isn't not Ty.

    I don't think he's incapable of being a good OC but it's about the point where you just need to assure recruits that it won't be this bad next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Worst BYU team in my lifetime. That I can remember anyway, and I am an old dude. Time to blow things up and no better place to start than our hapless OC. Sorry Ty, but you are clearly not cut out for this.
    They should have a long hard look at Holmoe as well, especially if Detmer is the OC next week. It is inexcusable that the offense huddled at all for that first drive of the fourth quarter—simply inexcusable.

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    I seem to remember rumors that Tom insisted that Ty be the OC. If that is true, there certainly needs to be some accountability from him as well.

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    I hate to say this because Ty is such a good dude, but you’re right. He has to go.

    Also, the S&C staff needs to be re evalauated.
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    Ty is bad. I have zero confidence that anyone they would hire would be better but I will take hope over despair.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Worst BYU team in my lifetime. That I can remember anyway, and I am an old dude. Time to blow things up and no better place to start than our hapless OC. Sorry Ty, but you are clearly not cut out for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Has there ever been a head coach redeemed by replacement of an assistant?
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    Ty is terrible and I think that Mangum is a mental midget. We have wasted too much time on him. Time to move on.

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    cahoon, empey and reno should all go first
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    The whole staff sucks including Sitake. There just are not many choices so we fire assistants and hope for miracles. It all we have left to do.


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    Third worst in yardage and second worst in scoring in the FBS. An absolute disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hostile View Post
    Bronco
    I know Bronco, Bronco was a friend of mine, and Sitake is no Bronco.
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    Here is who we should fire: Pete Tuipulotu from ever carrying an alumni flag again. Previous to today, the last two times that Pete carried the flag were Virginia in 2013 and West Virginia last year. I saw him carrying out that flag today and immediately knew we were done.

    Also, I should be fired from going to games. I haven’t been to a game we won since Texas in Provo in 2013. I haven’t been to an away victory since Georgia Tech in 2012. It’s starting to get old.

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    Easier to bench the QB. Start there.
    Then fire Ty for not benching him much sooner.
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    Think how happy we will all be with Ken N now? He can get as good of athletes as he gets at Navy, we can dumb down the schedule and win 8+ a year, maybe even join a conference and win OCCs again. All it took was seeing what the wasteland can really look like to realize we had it pretty good in the MWC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    Think how happy we will all be with Ken N now? He can get as good of athletes as he gets at Navy, we can dumb down the schedule and win 8+ a year, maybe even join a conference and win OCCs again. All it took was seeing what the wasteland can really look like to realize we had it pretty good in the MWC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    Think how happy we will all be with Ken N now? He can get as good of athletes as he gets at Navy, we can dumb down the schedule and win 8+ a year, maybe even join a conference and win OCCs again. All it took was seeing what the wasteland can really look like to realize we had it pretty good in the MWC.
    Maybe you weren’t paying attention but Ken N was offered the job and he turned it down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    cahoon, empey and reno should all go first
    Empey is probably the lone offensive guy who shouldn't get canned. The OL isn't great, but they're probably the least terrible unit on the team. Maybe TEs too. But only because Bushman has been decent and the #2 TE got hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Maybe you weren’t paying attention but Ken N was offered the job and he turned it down.
    I thought I was. But maybe I’m getting old. I thought the general vibe was that Holmoe didn’t want him but there was pressure from above to hire him, or at least make him a top candidate. My feeling was that most fans were luke warm at best and not wanting to run a unique offense. So Ken N turned us down.
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    Welcome aboard everyone. I’ve been on this train since at least Utah State.

    I’m also losing trust in Kalani. While his laid back style is great, it’s really starting to show on the field the lack of discipline and just busted assignments. This feels like Crowtons second year after the discipline of Lavell wore off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    I thought I was. But maybe I’m getting old. I thought the general vibe was that Holmoe didn’t want him but there was pressure from above to hire him, or at least make him a top candidate. My feeling was that most fans were luke warm at best and not wanting to run a unique offense. So Ken N turned us down.
    Ken turned us down because fans were lukewarm? Lol. Ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Ken turned us down because fans were lukewarm? Lol. Ok.
    I didn’t feel like that was what I said or implied. I am not an insider and have no idea why he turned us down. I’m not inside and probably many here know much more than I do about why he did and maybe the reasons he turned the job down are things that can’t or won’t change at BYU. I don’t think the idea of having your boss and fan base not want you would be the worst reason to not take a job. But I often make bad decisions so my thought process could be faulty.

    Regardless of coach or scheme I think conference affiliation in the near future is vital to ByU’s Long term success. It was a flawed argument to bring Ken N into the discussion.
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    I am generally pro independence, but if this slide continues it may make sense to join the AAC with a P5 invitation clause.

    But I'd prefer if BYU cities just start winning games as an independent.

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    Is a new head coach even a viable option? I wonder what kind of buyout clauses Kalani and Ty have in their contracts and if BYU could even afford new coaches at this point. The pool of coaches BYU can pick from is so limited that I worry we will be in for more of the same. We could never afford a proved D1 coach so we would either have to pull from the coordinator ranks or find some up and coming FCS coach (is there even one who is LDS)?

    If a coaching change is in the near future I don't see any good options at this point - which is why I'd say ride it out another year.

    In the current environment the honor code and LDS head coach requirements are the biggest limiters to building a more successful program. BYU has stacked the deck against themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    I didn’t feel like that was what I said or implied. I am not an insider and have no idea why he turned us down. I’m not inside and probably many here know much more than I do about why he did and maybe the reasons he turned the job down are things that can’t or won’t change at BYU. I don’t think the idea of having your boss and fan base not want you would be the worst reason to not take a job. But I often make bad decisions so my thought process could be faulty.

    Regardless of coach or scheme I think conference affiliation in the near future is vital to ByU’s Long term success. It was a flawed argument to bring Ken N into the discussion.
    OK. FTR, I don't think our current problem has anything to do with not being in the MWC.
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