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    Sexual harassment and rape accusations pile up against Harvey Weinstein

    So I guess if you have acceptable politics, people look the other way, and even joke about it. These stories go back years, yet nobody said anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    Sexual harassment and rape accusations pile up against Harvey Weinstein

    So I guess if you have acceptable politics, people look the other way, and even joke about it.
    You could say the same about Fox News personalities. Roger Ailes was pretty vile, so was Pill Cosby. I don't think any of those men got away with it for their respective politics. . They had power. Weinstein could make or break on actor's career on a whim if he wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    You could say the same about Fox News personalities. Roger Ailes was pretty vile, so was Pill Cosby. I don't think any of those men got away with it for their respective politics. . They had power. Weinstein could make or break on actor's career on a whim if he wanted to.
    Yes, so all the more reason not to look the other way.

    Oh, you groped me years ago? No problem.

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    Hollywood seems to be imploding and everyone knew about this crap:

    'You lie': Rose McGowan tells Ben Affleck to 'f*** off' and says he KNEW about Weinstein's sexual harassment claims in 1997 after the actor finally says he's 'sad and angry' after reading of producer's decades of abuse

    • Ben Affleck released a statement on Tuesday condemning Harvey Weinstein
    • He said the sex harassment allegations involving the film mogul made him sick
    • McGowan responded by saying she'd told Affleck of her own assault to his face
    • She said the star responded by saying 'I told him to stop doing that'
    • It's not clear when, but it's implied it was in 1997, after alleged assault happened
    • It may have been a promo for 1998 McGowan/Affleck/Weinstein flick Phantoms
    • Also in 1997, Affleck and Matt Damon's Good Will Hunting premiered
    • Weinstein produced the film, for which they won a best screenplay Oscar
    • Gwyneth Paltrow and Angelina Jolie have both now revealed they were also subjected to unwanted advances by Weinstein

    Rose McGowan slammed Ben Affleck as a liar Tuesday after he finally broke his silence over the sexual harassment and assault allegations leveled at Harvey Weinstein.
    Five days after the claims broke about the producer, who backed Affleck and Matt Damon's screenplay for Good Will Hunting, Affleck said that he was 'saddened and angry' over the claims.
    He also said that 'The additional allegations of assault that I read this morning made me sick,' and that he wants to see more support for women in the media.
    But McGowan, who was allegedly assaulted by Weinstein in 1997 and has been crusading against silence over Weinstein's grim past, stuck out at his claims to obliviousness.
    She tweeted: '@benaffleck "GODD*MNIT! I TOLD HIM TO STOP DOING THAT" you said that to my face. The press conf I was made to go to after assault. You lie.'
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Weinstein.html

    Well at least Weinstein finally recognizes he has a problem and is getting some help.

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    Yeah, "I need counseling" has been the "go to" for these asses ever since BClinton went into therapy after finally fessing up to "not having sex with that woman, Monica Lewinski" from an intern in a room just off the Oval Office.

    Matt Damon denies that he tried to 'kill a story' about Harvey Weinstein in 2004
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    It seems that Ben needs to take a trip to Europe himself...

    THE PLOT THICKENS
    Ben Affleck Is Accused of Groping Actress Hilarie Burton


    Hours after he made a statement condemning Harvey Weinstein's predatory behavior, Ben Affleck was accused of groping.

    The pressure building on Ben Affleck over Harvey Weinstein's Hollywood sexual predation scandal exploded this morning after the actress Hilarie Burton claimed she was groped by the actor during his appearance on TRL, which she was then hosting, back in 2003.
    Burton’s allegation, made on Twitter, came just hours after Affleck issued a carefully worded statement condemning Weinstein's alleged three decades of assault and harassment of actresses, including Angelina Jolie and Gwyneth Paltrow.
    Affleck's statement, which came after five days of studied silence, was quickly slammed by Rose McGowan, the actress who has been instrumental in exposing Weinstein.
    [...]
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/ben-af...hilarie-burton
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    Casey Affleck won an (undeserved) Oscar recently despite recent sexual harassment allegations. Bravo Hollywood!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Casey Affleck won an (undeserved) Oscar recently despite recent sexual harassment allegations. Bravo Hollywood!
    Yeah, I am guessing he knew something and didn't speak up as well. How do you think Matt and Ben won their Oscars for that obviously fake story about the janitor that could do math?


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    This has little to do with Hollywood or being liberal or conservative. It has everything to do with the fact that we are much more influenced by the primitive than civilization likes to admit.
    We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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    A little inside joke back in 2013...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Yeah, I am guessing he knew something and didn't speak up as well. How do you think Matt and Ben won their Oscars for that obviously fake story about the janitor that could do math?
    Hey, come on. That movie featured the only Robin Williams performance that I liked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Hey, come on. That movie featured the only Robin Williams performance that I liked.
    Oh yeah, he got an Oscar for that movie too... maybe he knew something as well. (Wasn't that his only Oscar win?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Hey, come on. That movie featured the only Robin Williams performance that I liked.
    Easy there Chief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
    Easy there Chief.
    Too soon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Too soon?
    Nah. I just enjoyed his performance as Mork from Ork. Also I liked the subtle way he called Matt Damon Chief with the undertone that if Matt continued he was going to get his ass kicked by an oldster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
    Nah. I just enjoyed his performance as Mork from Ork. Also I liked the subtle way he called Matt Damon Chief with the undertone that if Matt continued he was going to get his ass kicked by an oldster.
    Hey come on. I said I liked that performance too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
    This has little to do with Hollywood or being liberal or conservative. It has everything to do with the fact that we are much more influenced by the primitive than civilization likes to admit.
    I agree with a lot of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
    This has little to do with Hollywood or being liberal or conservative. It has everything to do with the fact that we are much more influenced by the primitive than civilization likes to admit.
    WHile I think this is largely correct, I am very reluctant to apply it in any particular case as I believe that any one of us, including Weinstein, has an obligation to rise above the primitive and I don't think anyone should take comfort or find refuge in the broader explanation.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Hey, come on. That movie featured the only Robin Williams performance that I liked.
    You didn't like Hook? You lewd, crude, rude, bag of pre-chewed food dude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    You didn't like Hook? You lewd, crude, rude, bag of pre-chewed food dude!
    Haha. I get the heebs just thinking of that awful movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Haha. I get the heebs just thinking of that awful movie.
    What about Patch Adams?
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    What about Patch Adams?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Awakenings?
    Good Morning Viet nam?
    Dead Poets Society??
    MRS. DOUBTFIRE??!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Awakenings?
    Good Morning Viet nam?
    Dead Poets Society??
    MRS. DOUBTFIRE??!?
    And what about his animated voice work? Aladdin? and Happy Feet (or whatever that penguin movie was called)? Both hilarious roles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    I'm with I didn't like Robin Williams. I also don't like Jim Carrey. They are too over-the-top and give off a creepy vibe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    WHile I think this is largely correct, I am very reluctant to apply it in any particular case as I believe that any one of us, including Weinstein, has an obligation to rise above the primitive and I don't think anyone should take comfort or find refuge in the broader explanation.
    Yes. I'm not trying to make an excuse for Weinstein, but the larger cultural problem persists and our inability to deal with it is often unaddressed. I've been reading a great book on the subject, Sex at Dawn by Ryan and Jetha.
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    I'm with creekster. Lebowski is out of his mind. Robin Williams was brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Awakenings?
    Good Morning Viet nam?
    Dead Poets Society??
    MRS. DOUBTFIRE??!?
    Awakenings wasn't bad.
    Mrs. Doubtfire had some funny moments.
    DPS was too pretentious.
    Don't recall much about GMV.
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    I loved Mork and Mindy. I liked Awakenings because my BIO 101 professor talked it up, so I watched it and agreed. I haven't seen Good Will Hunting, so I feel I can't make a definitive evaluation of his movie work until I do.

    That said, it is going to have to be a blockbuster role in GWH for me to alter my opinion of his movies. He played the same smirky role in everything I've seen so far. Pretty lame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    I loved Mork and Mindy. I liked Awakenings because my BIO 101 professor talked it up, so I watched it and agreed. I haven't seen Good Will Hunting, so I feel I can't make a definitive evaluation of his movie work until I do.

    That said, it is going to have to be a blockbuster role in GWH for me to alter my opinion of his movies. He played the same smirky role in everything I've seen so far. Pretty lame.
    GWH?
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