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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    That's a pretty decent apology IMO. Who besides himself is he blaming?
    Meh.

    A: he talks about how he asked first to show them his dick. That's one thing, but then forcing them to watch him jerkoff? Come on.
    B: Call me cynical, but I gurantee there were many more instances than those 5 woman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    That's a pretty decent apology IMO. Who besides himself is he blaming?
    yeah, he takes responsibility and apologizes in an empathetic and non patronizing way.
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    It's definitely far better than the reaction of anyone else who has been accused in this wave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCoug View Post
    Meh.

    A: he talks about how he asked first to show them his dick. That's one thing, but then forcing them to watch him jerkoff? Come on.
    B: Call me cynical, but I gurantee there were many more instances than those 5 woman
    No doubt he was pressured to make it, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were more women. And there's possibly even worse allegations. It would have been much more powerful had it came after the allegations first came out. Still, it's more remorseful than what we typically see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    No doubt he was pressured to make it, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were more women. And there's possibly even worse allegations. It would have been much more powerful had it came after the allegations first came out. Still, it's more remorseful than what we typically see.
    I can agree with that. It's me being cynical for sure.

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    That seems pretty good to me.


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    yeah apologies probably mean very little to the victims of stuff like this and they are mostly self-serving but that is about as good as you can do.
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    On it goes...

    This Writer Says Rolling Stone Founder Jann Wenner Offered Him Work In Exchange For Sex

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeor...x3A#.caOanAoz9

    The invitation that started with such high expectations ended, he told BuzzFeed News, with an offer of career advancement in exchange for sex.

    Sitting in Wenner’s corner office, Ryan did his best “to seem incredibly knowledgeable and professional,” while Wenner leaned back with his feet on the table. Ryan left with an assignment for Men’s Journal.

    Ryan said Wenner called now and then to check in, then again one evening with an invitation to his Upper West Side townhouse.

    The publisher greeted his guest, fixed him a drink — “like a sidecar; one of those old, fancy, mid-century lowball glasses,” Ryan recently recalled — and sat with him on a couch. Wenner had been out as gay for 10 years by that point, and Ryan said he was aware that he might have expectations, but the young writer figured he could hold the line. Then suddenly, said Ryan, his host pounced.
    At the suggestion that anyone else might know about their encounter, Ryan said, “It was like the entire temperature of the room changed in a flash.” Wenner “got very upset and was pseudo-threatening of how bad it could be if this got out.”

    Ryan recalls feeling terrified. “All of a sudden I was the bad guy and I felt like I was in the hot seat and being grilled.”

    He got up to leave. He was in the foyer, he said, when Wenner made him an offer: Stay, and I’ll give you a writing contract.

    “I think there was that moment where it’s like time stood still, and you’re imagining how this could be the answer to all my struggles. All I would have to do is this one thing,” Ryan said. “But that’s not me. I would never do that.”
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    George Takei is up next. Sounds like he's being accused of drugging someone and then trying to take advantage.

    https://www.aol.com/article/entertai...1981/23274049/

    "The next thing I remember I was coming to and he had my pants down around my ankles and he was groping my crotch and trying to get my underwear off and feeling me up at the same time, trying to get his hands down my underwear," Brunton says. "I came to and said, 'What are you doing?!' I said, 'I don't want to do this.' He goes, 'You need to relax. I am just trying to make you comfortable. Get comfortable.' And I said, 'No. I don't want to do this.' And I pushed him off and he said, 'OK, fine.' And I said I am going to go and he said, 'If you feel you must. You're in no condition to drive.' I said, 'I don't care I want to go.' So I managed to get my pants up and compose myself and I was just shocked. I walked out and went to my car until I felt well enough to drive home, and that was that."
    Takei of course refutes the accusation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    George Takei is up next. Sounds like he's being accused of drugging someone and then trying to take advantage.

    https://www.aol.com/article/entertai...1981/23274049/



    Takei of course refutes the accusation

    Sorry George, I didn't feel shocked to read them. Not one bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    George Takei is up next. Sounds like he's being accused of drugging someone and then trying to take advantage.

    https://www.aol.com/article/entertai...1981/23274049/



    Takei of course refutes the accusation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Oh no! Not Sulu. I could see Kirk but never Sulu.


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    Say it isn’t so, Takei. You are quite the noble justice warrior on Facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Oh no! Not Sulu. I could see Kirk but never Sulu.


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    Quote Originally Posted by snowcat View Post
    If you need a scorecard to keep track of this, USA Today is taking time off of their chainsaw bayonet coverage to keep a running list for you.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ent/827004001/
    I didn't see Richard Dreyfuss on the list.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...ry?id=51073059

    I guess it takes a disgusting, dangerous pig to know one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Say it isn’t so, Takei. You are quite the noble justice warrior on Facebook.
    I’ll admit that the Takei accusation is less credible than most others. It was 40 years ago so corroborating it would be difficult. If other accusers come out, then I’d be more inclined to believe it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    I didn't see Richard Dreyfuss on the list.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...ry?id=51073059

    I guess it takes a disgusting, dangerous pig to know one....

    It was his father's fault.

    Dreyfuss, who is perhaps best known for his roles in films including "American Graffiti," "Jaws," and "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," said that in the late 1970s he became "an a----- — the kind of performative masculine man my father had modeled for me to be."

    "I lived by the motto, 'If you don’t flirt, you die.' And flirt I did. I flirted with all women, be they actresses, producers, or 80-year-old grandmothers. I even flirted with those who were out of bounds, like the wives of some of my best friends, which especially revolts me. I disrespected myself, and I disrespected them, and ignored my own ethics, which I regret more deeply than I can express," he stated. "During those years I was swept up in a world of celebrity and drugs — which are not excuses, just truths. Since then I have had to redefine what it means to be a man, and an ethical man. I think every man on Earth has or will have to grapple with this question. But I am not an assaulter."
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    Ted Nugent deserves an honorable mention, what with him becoming the legal guardian of his underage girlfriend when was 30 in order to have her live with him. Plus the lovely lyrics to Jailbait:

    Well, I don’t care if you’re just 13

    You look too good to be true

    I just know that you’re probably clean...

    Jailbait you look fine, fine, fine...

    It’s quite alright, I asked your mama

    Wait a minute, officer

    Don’t put those handcuffs on me

    Put them on her, and I’ll share her with you


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    George Takei just blamed Russia for spreading the sexual assault accusation against him

    Following a recent accusation alleging George Takei sexually assaulted a man in 1981, the Star Trek actor is placing blame on an unlikely source — the Russians.
    [...]
    https://mic.com/articles/186033/geor...him#.I8WD2IaiJ

    I bet that freak'n Chekov is behind all of this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    https://mic.com/articles/186033/geor...him#.I8WD2IaiJ

    I bet that freak'n Chekov is behind all of this!

    Ok, that was funny.
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    Bill Clinton: A Reckoning

    Called “Feminists and the Clinton Question,” it was written in March of 1998, when Paula Jones’s harassment claim was working its way through court. It was printed seven days after Kathleen Willey’s blockbuster 60 Minutes interview with Ed Bradley. If all the various allegations were true, wrote Steinem, Bill Clinton was “a candidate for sex addiction therapy.” To her mind, the most “credible” accusations were those of Willey, whom she noted was “old enough to be Monica Lewinsky’s mother.” And then she wrote the fatal sentences that invalidated the new understanding of workplace sexual harassment as a moral and legal wrong: “Even if the allegations are true, the President is not guilty of sexual harassment. He is accused of having made a gross, dumb, and reckless pass at a supporter during a low point in her life. She pushed him away, she said, and it never happened again. In other words, President Clinton took ‘no’ for an answer.”

    Steinem said the same was true of Paula Jones. These were not crimes; they were “passes.” Broaddrick was left out by Steinem, who revealed herself as a combination John and Bobby Kennedy of the feminist movement: the fair-haired girl and the bareknuckle fixer. The widespread liberal response to the sex crime accusations against Bill Clinton found their natural consequence 20 years later in the behavior of Harvey Weinstein: Stay loudly and publicly and extravagantly on the side of signal leftist causes and you can do what you want in the privacy of your offices and hotel rooms. But the mood of the country has changed. We are in a time when old monuments are coming down and when men are losing their careers over things they did to women a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    Yes, it seems Bill Clinton's victims have been rather vocal lately and formed support groups with other women...

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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    I read that this morning. Interesting to see some regret from the left about covering for Bill.
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    i know this is a wild proposition, but maybe two different people can each in fact be bad independently of the other
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    i know this is a wild proposition, but maybe two different people can each in fact be bad independently of the other
    Roy Moore can have his own thread, but everyone else is stuck with this one.
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    Add John Travolta

    John Travolta Accused Of 'Sexual Battery' By Male Massage Therapist

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/23553/...emily-zanotti#
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowcat View Post
    Add John Travolta

    John Travolta Accused Of 'Sexual Battery' By Male Massage Therapist

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/23553/...emily-zanotti#
    that’s not a new one, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    that’s not a new one, right?
    I don't know. At this point it is easier to assume all men in Hollywood (and most politicians) are pigs.
    One of the grandest benefits of the enlightenment was the realization that our moral sense must be based on the welfare of living individuals, not on their immortal souls. Honest and passionate folks can strongly disagree regarding spiritual matters, so it's imperative that we not allow such considerations to infringe on the real happiness of real people.

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    This happened in Utah

    Tom Sizemore Was Removed From Movie Set for Allegedly Violating 11-Year Old Girl


    A dozen cast and crewmembers tell THR that the actor was sent home after the girl told her parents about the incident.
    Actor Tom Sizemore was told to leave a Utah film set in 2003 after an 11-year-old actress told her mother that he had touched her genitals, The Hollywood Reporter has learned. Months later, he returned for reshoots in Malibu after her parents declined to press charges. The incident has never been revealed publicly.

    When contacted, the now 26-year-old former actress, whom THR is not identifying at her request, declined to address the matter except to note that she's recently hired a lawyer to explore legal action against the actor as well as her parents. Sizemore declined to address the situation. "Our position is 'no comment,'" says his agent Stephen Rice.

    THR spoke to a dozen people involved with the production of the film, a crime thriller called Born Killers (shot as Piggy Banks). They confirmed Sizemore was sent home over the alleged incident. According to these cast- and crewmembers, rumors swirled and emotions rose on set over what had allegedly transpired.

    Sizemore, notorious for his long rap sheet that includes charges of drug use and battery against women, has not previously been accused of molestation. An actor with a tough-guy image then at the height of his scandal-driven infamy, when the Utah incident occurred he'd recently been convicted of physically abusing and harassing his ex-girlfriend, the former "Hollywood Madam" Heidi Fleiss.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...d-girl-1057629
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    This happened in Utah

    Tom Sizemore Was Removed From Movie Set for Allegedly Violating 11-Year Old Girl





    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...d-girl-1057629
    No SOL on that. Could still be prosecuted if some enterprising DA decided to make some hay in the current political climate.

    Also, the thing in that or another article that was the most disturbing was that the girl's parents declined to press charges because they didn't want the girl to be removed from the movie cast. Talk about messed up priorities.
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