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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Tick View Post
    I've been saying this for some time now...

    Pretty much every man ever has the potential to be accused of being guilty of "sexual assault", because the line and definition is being moved. What is "unwanted sexual advances"? I have an acquaintance that says claims she was "sexually assaulted" because she had a classmate ask her out to dinner 3 different times. The social outrage was so great that she is going to talk to an advisor at school to get counseling.

    Now this is a far cry from Weinstien obviously, but it is now on the forefront of everyone's mind.

    The biggest problem that I have with all of this is...proof. It is typically hearsay. Someone accuses someone, they are automatically guilty. No longer innocent until proven guilty, you are guilty if accused. Period.

    1. Kevin Spacey was accused.
    2. SAME DAY, Netflix cancels House of Cards after Season 6 that is currently being shot.
    3. Netflix issues a SAME DAY statement announcing how they will keep everyone safe from Kevin Spacey. SAME DAY!

    There is no burden of proof for a majority of this stuff. The serial predators are going to be legitimatized by the vast amount of accusers, but the one-off's are done. Careers are over.

    The hypocrisy of the whole thing is that Kevin Spacey won an Academy Award in 1999 for American Beauty. He played a 42 year old man who sexually fantasized about his teenage daughters best friend.

    1999 - Kevin Spacey portrays a man who is a predator of an underage child - Hollywood says "Academy Award".

    2017 - Kevin Spacey is accused of being a predator of an underage child in 1986. - Hollywood says "die".


    It's going to get much much worse folks.
    You don't see a difference between the two? Seriously?

    Portraying something in a story doesn't condone it. Good grief, the bible features murder and incest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    You don't see a difference between the two? Seriously?

    Portraying something in a story doesn't condone it. Good grief, the bible features murder and incest.
    And The Ten Commandments won best picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    You don't see a difference between the two? Seriously?

    Portraying something in a story doesn't condone it. Good grief, the bible features murder and incest.
    Of course there is a difference in the two. I just find it ironic.

    I just am bothered by the fact that everything is so reactionary now. Google American Beauty. People are saying that the movie and he should be stripped of their awards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Tick View Post
    Of course there is a difference in the two. I just find it ironic.

    I just am bothered by the fact that everything is so reactionary now. Google American Beauty. People are saying that the movie and he should be stripped of their awards.
    People are dumb.
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    The hypocrisy of the whole thing is that Kevin Spacey won an Academy Award in 1999 for American Beauty. He played a 42 year old man who sexually fantasized about his teenage daughters best friend.
    Maybe they should take away his Oscar... his role in American Beauty was not a good demonstration of his acting ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Not surprisingly, lots of Kevin Spacey abuse stories coming out now. So much for the "I must have been drunk" defense.
    Maybe he gets drunk a lot.
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    Maybe they should take away his Oscar... his role in American Beauty was not a good demonstration of his acting ability.
    Sure it was - in the movie, he was infatuated with a teenaged girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hostile View Post
    And The Ten Commandments won best picture.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    You don't see a difference between the two? Seriously?

    Portraying something in a story doesn't condone it. Good grief, the bible features murder and incest.
    1945-- Hollywood pooh poohs the Holocaust.

    1994-- Schindler's List wins academy award for best picture and six others in various categories.

    Hypocritical much, Hollywood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    1945-- Hollywood pooh poohs the Holocaust.

    1996-- Schindler's List wins academy award for best picture.

    Hypocritical much, Hollywood?
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    I had to actually go back and fact check and edit my post.
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    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    That's an awesome graphic. I was also perplexed that his apology segued into a coming out party. "Actually I think I really am an ass man. I mean I still likes em big up top, but I need to do some soul searching and come to terms with this revelation. Thanks for your continued prayers and support."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Not surprisingly, lots of Kevin Spacey abuse stories coming out now. So much for the "I must have been drunk" defense.
    Any normal innocent person would just say I didn’t do that and wouldn’t do that.

    The whole “I don’t remember but must have been drunk” statement is so ridiculous. Who is giving him advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    Any normal innocent person would just say I didn’t do that and wouldn’t do that.

    The whole “I don’t remember but must have been drunk” statement is so ridiculous. Who is giving him advice?
    Especially if more accusations are likely to come out. This is blowing up:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/second...hotline-opened

    This one has a semi-funny twist:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/481293...h-buy-silence/

    He exposed himself to some kid and came on to him and then realized that was dumb and offered the kid a £5K watch to shut up. The kid takes the watch and the next day Spacey's "people" call him to try to get the watch back. He lied and told them he didn't have it but then sold it shortly thereafter for £3.2K.
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    Louis CK’s accusers were about 3 months too early to be believed I guess.
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    Dennis from Head of the Class. He's now a major producer for Nickelodeon. This one could be the worse than Weinstein.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    Dennis from Head of the Class. He's now a major producer for Nickelodeon. This one could be the worse than Weinstein.
    You're not joking. https://www.redstate.com/kiradavis/2...t-nickelodeon/
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    "Dirtbag bingo cards".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    "Dirtbag bingo cards".

    That's a funny tweet. The Fish allegations are also kind of funny. The worst one being that he grabbed a woman around the neck 10 years ago and left a red mark (no one used the term strangle) and that he said one woman's lipstick tube looked like a dildo. He also rubbed a few women's shoulders without their permission.

    Okay, he's not a great guy, but it seems like HuffPo and others are now looking for any semi-major figure that has every uttered the word "dildo" at the office to string up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    Louis CK’s accusers were about 3 months too early to be believed I guess.
    It's all about timing. Here is actress Constance Wu's scathing indictment of the Academy to even nominate Casey Affleck for Best Actor for Manchestor by the Sea. Before Affleck won. If the nomination had happened this year instead of last year...?




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    Another hypocrisy: It took Netflix two days to cancel House of Cards when a 32 year old accusation came to light about Spacey. But Netflix just ordered another season of The Ranch, starring Danny Masterson, accused and investigated by the LAPD for raping 4 women between 2001 and 2003. These rapes were similar and were disturbing. (Google Donkey punch) The cases are with the DA's office to decide whether they are going to seek and indictment.

    Perhaps the difference is that there is much more abuse that is recent and happened on the Netflix HOC set and will come out in the future, and Netflix producers were aware of these accusations. Whereas Netflix just purchases The Ranch from a separate production company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katy Lied View Post
    (Google Donkey punch)
    I'm not going to fall for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Diddley View Post
    I'm not going to fall for that.
    How bout Dirty Sanchez?

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    You guys see the news this morning on Harvey Weinstein? Apparently, he hired ex-Mossad agents to dig up dirt on his accusers or reporters who were about to expose him and use that information to threaten them to keep silent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    You guys see the news this morning on Harvey Weinstein? Apparently, he hired ex-Mossad agents to dig up dirt on his accusers or reporters who were about to expose him and use that information to threaten them to keep silent.


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    The guy is a piece of work. So disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    You guys see the news this morning on Harvey Weinstein? Apparently, he hired ex-Mossad agents to dig up dirt on his accusers or reporters who were about to expose him and use that information to threaten them to keep silent.
    Well that's 100% his M.O. Exactly nobody is surprised by that. Gee- I hope that sex addiction rehab that works for exactly nobody worked after a week.
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    Here is the article that broke the story:

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...-army-of-spies

    Good heavens. What an evil guy.
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    Instead of going to the PR Push Sex Addiction Clinic, he should have pulled a Polanski and gone to France. Because NYC is looking for an indictment I believe Weinstein can be restricted from leaving the country.

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    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    Add Mariah Carey to the list...

    Mariah Carey's former security guard 'threatens to sue singer for sexual harassment and referring to him as a Nazi skinhead... and claims she owes him over $200k'


    Michael Anello - the former security guard for Mariah Carey - is threatening the singing sensation with legal action, claiming she sexually harassed him, humiliated him and owes him money, according to TMZ.


    The founder of Anello Security & Consulting - who has been an 'Executive Protection Agent' since 2006 - has made allegations that the Hero singer, 47, told him he was a 'Nazi skinhead' and that she has an outstanding bill owed to his firm for $221,329.51.
    [...]
    Specifically, this refers to an alleged incident that took place during a trip to Cabo San Lucas.


    It's written that Mariah asked Anello up to her room to move some of her luggage, only to find her 'wearing a see-through negligee that was open'.
    [...]
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...s-sue-her.html


    After watching her 'Touch my Body' vid I thought that is how Mariah usually answers the door.
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