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Originally posted by Moliere View PostWhat I don't get is what is their protest? What do they expect to see happen because of the protest? Socio-economic injustice? Racial profiling? What? Are they going to kneel until racism is wiped off the land? The protest is different than other pros tests that had specific goals (eliminate segregation, allow blacks to vote, etc). It's disjointed much like Occupy Wall Street and will end just as unsatisfactorily for all involved.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
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Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostUnderstood. I just don't have a problem with those who protest in a relatively benign way. And it's interesting to me that what really bugs people is, I presume, the fact they're protesting at all, not the manner in which they're doing so. For example, years ago I, along with several guys in dirty clothes, unwashed hair and smudged faces, burned the American flag. The OUTRAGE!, right? But the event occurred at the end of a long Acorn-training camping trip and we were retiring the colors after it had become threadbare from years of respectful use, with the ashes to be placed in a container with ashes of flags from around the country. OK, then that's just fine. But what if while it was burning I was thinking, Death to America!?
So are we condemning the act of kneeling, or what we believe they're thinking while they're doing so?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostIf you truly don't know what their protest is, you haven't been paying attention. I agree that the effectiveness of it remains to be seen.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostIf you truly don't know what their protest is, you haven't been paying attention. I agree that the effectiveness of it remains to be seen.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostWhat are they protesting?
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Read the NYT article PAC posted above.
If you still aren't quite sure:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+are+nfl+players+protesting%3F"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostThere have been 8 unarmed black men shot by police this year. The protest is a bunch of nonsense.
http://www.tampabay.com/projects/201...ice-shootings/
~800 police shootings in Tampa Bay between 2009 and 2014, blacks shot outnumbered whites 340 to 330 (even though whites outnumber blacks 3 to 1 in that area). And the kicker, only one shooting cop was charged with a crime, which was later thrown out of court.
Argue the effectiveness of the protest all you want. But the impetus behind it is most certainly not nonsense."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostSrsly?!?
Read the NYT article PAC posted above.
If you still aren't quite sure:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+are+nfl+players+protesting%3F
Kneeling during the national anthem draws attention, but it has no connection to police brutality. It's like me crapping on my boss's desk because someone was mean to my kid at school when they found out he was Mormon.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by Crockett View PostWhat are you talking about?
The lines are becoming clear: either you're on Team America, or you're not. If you still choose to watch NFL games after witnessing the vile anti-cop, anti-American, anti-Soldier protests these NFL players continue to display, then you’re just as anti-American as they are, and have no grounds to open your trap and complain about their protests."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostThere have been 8 unarmed black men shot by police this year. The protest is a bunch of nonsense.
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostSorry, I'm not really following this story and from a disinterested persons vantage point the protest it makes no sense. Sit ins at segregated lunch counters make sense when you want desegregation. Same with sitting in a whites only section of a bus. Marching from Selma to Montgomery makes sense when protesting the right to vote (or lack of) since Montgomery is the state capital.
Kneeling during the national anthem draws attention, but it has no connection to police brutality. It's like me crapping on my boss's desk because someone was mean to my kid at school when they found out he was Mormon.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostAgain, I am not arguing the effectiveness of the protest. But the reason behind it has been clear from the beginning, notwithstanding the talking heads dishonestly framing the argument as rich privileged players who hate America.
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Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostUnderstood. I just don't have a problem with those who protest in a relatively benign way. And it's interesting to me that what really bugs people is, I presume, the fact they're protesting at all, not the manner in which they're doing so. For example, years ago I, along with several guys in dirty clothes, unwashed hair and smudged faces, burned the American flag. The OUTRAGE!, right? But the event occurred at the end of a long Acorn-training camping trip and we were retiring the colors after it had become threadbare from years of respectful use, with the ashes to be placed in a container with ashes of flags from around the country. OK, then that's just fine. But what if while it was burning I was thinking, Death to America!?
So are we condemning the act of kneeling, or what we believe they're thinking while they're doing so?"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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