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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    Tristyn Moser and Sydnie Martindale are the backup liberos and they both play on the back row. Moser played almost in every game on the back row. There were some games where she was pulled though. Olmstead has a relatively quick trigger with Moser. She will replace her with Stetler sometimes (Stetler played a lot in the back row last year too). That's what happened on Saturday, but then Stetler also replaced Haddock at opposite. So Stetler ended up playing all the rotations.
    I suppose you know this, but does the men's team play a 6-2? I ask that because our passing seems suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    I suppose you know this, but does the men's team play a 6-2? I ask that because our passing seems suspect.
    No they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    No they don't.
    They seem to have trouble passing. Did we pick up enough talent to surpass Ohio State this year, or do you believe Ohio State is still the program to beat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    They seem to have trouble passing. Did we pick up enough talent to surpass Ohio State this year, or do you believe Ohio State is still the program to beat?
    I don't know. I think BYU lost more important players than the other the top programs last year. It will be interesting to see if BYU drops off a little bit. Ohio State lost people, but they still have their top pin hitter (who's a great server). I don't think Long Beach St lost that much and UCLA had a bad year last year (mostly because of injuries rather than lack of talent) and I would expect them to recover this year. Not sure about what Hawaii lost.

    BYU lost Patch, Dobber, Langlois, and Grosch. So a great OH and arguably best server Langlois, and both of your opposites that played last year, and one MB (this should be fine).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    I don't know. I think BYU lost more important players than the other the top programs last year. It will be interesting to see if BYU drops off a little bit. Ohio State lost people, but they still have their top pin hitter (who's a great server). I don't think Long Beach St lost that much and UCLA had a bad year last year (mostly because of injuries rather than lack of talent) and I would expect them to recover this year. Not sure about what Hawaii lost.

    BYU lost Patch, Dobber, Langlois, and Grosch. So a great OH and arguably best server Langlois, and both of your opposites that played last year, and one MB (this should be fine).
    That's a lot for BYU to replace. BYU adds 6 freshman from all across the globe. It will be a test of Coach Olmstead's abilities.

    I am trying to find out what Kentucky's strengths are to see how good a chance the women have to defeat the Wildcats. Coach seems to be a good fit for this program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post

    I am trying to find out what Kentucky's strengths are to see how good a chance the women have to defeat the Wildcats. Coach seems to be a good fit for this program.
    Their season looks a lot like ours, quite frankly. Only common opponent is Utah, who UK beat in five sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post
    Their season looks a lot like ours, quite frankly. Only common opponent is Utah, who UK beat in five sets.
    Nebraska and Colorado are also in our region. Isn't Nebraska a former national champion?

    I notice Utah qualified for the Sweet Sixteen for the first time since 2008. When was the last time BYU failed to make the Sweet Sixteen, 2011 or 2010?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    That's a lot for BYU to replace. BYU adds 6 freshman from all across the globe. It will be a test of Coach Olmstead's abilities.

    I am trying to find out what Kentucky's strengths are to see how good a chance the women have to defeat the Wildcats. Coach seems to be a good fit for this program.
    Here do some scouting:




    My quick take based on watching a few minutes. They are big and athletic. They like to run slide step attacks; one of their MB does it really well. I think BYU can get them out of system just like they did Oregon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    Here do some scouting:




    My quick take based on watching a few minutes. They are big and athletic. They like to run slide step attacks; one of their MB does it really well. I think BYU can get them out of system just like they did Oregon.
    I think you nailed it. Kaz Brown (MB) is fierce. But they definitely telegraph where the ball is going. When they got outside, Edmond doesn't hit a real heavy ball if the block is up, but if she's alone, she can put it down at the 3m line.

    Their libero is a freshman and won DPOY for SEC, I think, which surprises me. She didn't have the best game against WKU. UK's setter is pretty good, but is not a great athlete. If we can pressure their backrow with good serving, and keep them out of system, I think we have a shot. If their setter gets good passes, then it's going to be tough. Miller and the OPP will be the x factors. I don't think UK is going to let Perry beat them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    lol. Stop googling volleyball schemes so you can look informed. You’re not fooling anyone.
    But would you guys agree with the following? Setters have the task for orchestrating the offense of the team. They aim for second touch and their main responsibility is to place the ball in the air where the attackers can place the ball into the opponents' court for a point. They have to be able to operate with the hitters, manage the tempo of their side of the court and choose the right attackers to set. Setters need to have swift and skillful appraisal and tactical accuracy, and must be quick at moving around the court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Student View Post
    But would you guys agree with the following? Setters have the task for orchestrating the offense of the team. They aim for second touch and their main responsibility is to place the ball in the air where the attackers can place the ball into the opponents' court for a point. They have to be able to operate with the hitters, manage the tempo of their side of the court and choose the right attackers to set. Setters need to have swift and skillful appraisal and tactical accuracy, and must be quick at moving around the court.
    lol
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    I pref3r a 5-1 but I also build my teams out of middle with a hitting Opp. I think of OH as a player to keep balls in play on offense and to pass. I’m impressed by Heather because she has two partial middles, no Opp, and is still winning like crazy. She really loves her DS and Liberos. I don’t like a 6-2 because setter inconsistency often prevents the middles from clicking. I think it forces you to hit from the pins too much. I also really like running the D more often and the DS sub for Opp makes me uncomfortable. 3 rotations with a strong D ball is much better than only 2.

    All of that said, give me a high line shot on a naked 2 any day. Sand is my jam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    I pref3r a 5-1 but I also build my teams out of middle with a hitting Opp. I think of OH as a player to keep balls in play on offense and to pass. I’m impressed by Heather because she has two partial middles, no Opp, and is still winning like crazy. She really loves her DS and Liberos. I don’t like a 6-2 because setter inconsistency often prevents the middles from clicking. I think it forces you to hit from the pins too much. I also really like running the D more often and the DS sub for Opp makes me uncomfortable. 3 rotations with a strong D ball is much better than only 2.

    All of that said, give me a high line shot on a naked 2 any day. Sand is my jam.
    Who plays the Opp for BYU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Who plays the Opp for BYU?
    The non-setter twin, Hamson’s Little sister and Chad Lewis’s daughter are the primary choices. Recently one of our outsides has played it too. Opposite hits on the right side of the net and blocks the other team’s outside hitters. They play opposite of the setter so they are always in the front row when the setter is in the back and vice versa. Famous BYU Oppies are Ozzie, Joe Hillman, Scott Bunker (after Mac came back) and Ben Patch. Best Opp are left-handed players who block really well. Usually they don’t need to play much ground defense in the Men’s game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    The non-setter twin, Hamson’s Little sister and Chad Lewis’s daughter are the primary choices. Recently one of our outsides has played it too. Opposite hits on the right side of the net and blocks the other team’s outside hitters. They play opposite of the setter so they are always in the front row when the setter is in the back and vice versa. Famous BYU Oppies are Ozzie, Joe Hillman, Scott Bunker (after Mac came back) and Ben Patch. Best Opp are left-handed players who block really well. Usually they don’t need to play much ground defense in the Men’s game.
    How good is Hamson's little sister?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    The non-setter twin, Hamson’s Little sister and Chad Lewis’s daughter are the primary choices. Recently one of our outsides has played it too
    Olmstead has played a lot a people at opposite this year. I think the following is the order of playing time:

    1. Lacy Haddock (was the starting opposite at the beginning of the season but got hurt the first weekend ... primary opposite again after Ballard got injured)

    2. Stetler (she got quite a bit of time early in the season right after Haddock got injured that first weekend ... subbed in for some games later in the season ... most notably Oregon).

    3. Taylen Ballard (replaced Stetler as the primary opposite (although Hamson got some time between Stetler and Ballard) after the maybe the Utah game (moved from OH) and pretty much locked down the spot until she injured her knee ... played really well in the first San Diego game ... I imagine she will be the starting opposite next season).

    4. Hamsen (Olmstead tried her a lot at opposite right after the Ballard injury but eventually settled primarily on Haddock ... she also got time after the Baylor game before Olmstead settled on Ballard).

    5. Lewis (very little playing time ... subbed in a few times when the starting opposite was struggling).

    Of course, Roni Jones-Perry will hit on the right side when in the back row.
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    Great match so far. BYU struggling a bit against Kentucky here to start the fourth.
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    No answer to Edmond here in the fifth.
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    Well dang. I stepped away from the computer up 5-1 in the 5th and came back a few minutes down 9-7. Fell apart at the end there.

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    Oh well. Nice season. Can't wait to see what they do next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Oh well. Nice season. Can't wait to see what they do next year.
    Next year could be a very fun season. Will have to replace Cosy, but I think that's about it from the main rotation.

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    Disappointing match because the hitters didn't play their usual game, and there were a lot of bad sets. But still only one senior so next year might be the year they make another run.
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    Another heart breaker. I’m not sure what coach saw that caused her to yank Miller, but we needed her when RJP was back row. Stetler played fine, but Miller has a higher ceiling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    How good is Hamson's little sister?
    She is developing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelagius View Post
    Olmstead has played a lot a people at opposite this year. I think the following is the order of playing time:

    1. Lacy Haddock (was the starting opposite at the beginning of the season but got hurt the first weekend ... primary opposite again after Ballard got injured)

    2. Stetler (she got quite a bit of time early in the season right after Haddock got injured that first weekend ... subbed in for some games later in the season ... most notably Oregon).

    3. Taylen Ballard (replaced Stetler as the primary opposite (although Hamson got some time between Stetler and Ballard) after the maybe the Utah game (moved from OH) and pretty much locked down the spot until she injured her knee ... played really well in the first San Diego game ... I imagine she will be the starting opposite next season).

    4. Hamsen (Olmstead tried her a lot at opposite right after the Ballard injury but eventually settled primarily on Haddock ... she also got time after the Baylor game before Olmstead settled on Ballard).

    5. Lewis (very little playing time ... subbed in a few times when the starting opposite was struggling).

    Of course, Roni Jones-Perry will hit on the right side when in the back row.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoose View Post
    Next year could be a very fun season. Will have to replace Cosy, but I think that's about it from the main rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    Two words, Heather Gneiting.
    Isn't she in the national pool for juniors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Isn't she in the national pool for juniors?
    I don’t know. I saw her play at State and she’s gnarly. She would have been our best middle this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Isn't she in the national pool for juniors?
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    Amazing, tall, athletic women coming out of the woodwork it appears. Where the Hell are the men?
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