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  • #31
    Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
    Wuap, thanks for introducing us to Clifton.

    TooBlue: I would love to learn more digital art, even though it feels like cheating because I often scan in and oversketch photos on my ipad pro. Unlike talents like Cowboy who dont even do plein air. Your work is amazing. Thanks for the references.

    What digital apps would you recommend? I use Procreate for almost everything, and Adobe for lettering.
    I use Alias Sketch and Procreate, also Apple Notes is fantastic—it almost feels like drawing with a real pencil on board. The Adobe iPad apps are not great; I have them but never use them. It's not cheating. Norman Rockwell painted from reference photos extensively for his Saturday Evening Post cover illustrations. He would post notices on the bulletin board at church in his small town indicating what kind of models he was looking for, from among his neighbours and friends. He also hired models, when he needed a particular look:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...strations.html

    Great Artists, ancient and modern have all relied on models, and eventually on cameras (camera obscura):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3aA6xi_jmc

    Donato Giancola does amazing sci-fi work, drawing from great reference photos:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2sgl1N6hE8

    Now I realize that Rockwell and Giancolo are drawing by looking at the image or even "plein air" but is that really that different than tracing—especially if its a photograph, for which you own the copyright?

    I mostly draw by looking at my subject matter I have posed and then photographed. But sometimes I do trace, especially if the photo was so carefully constructed by me to be traced. Here's an illustration created from a photo I use as an in-class demo (drawing free-hand by looking at the photo; no tracing):

    pistacios_illustration.jpg
    Water colour, Acrylic, coloured pencil on water colour paper 8x10"

    pistacios.jpg
    Last edited by tooblue; 08-27-2017, 12:11 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by cowboy View Post
      This is what happens when I try to draw from memory. The other day, my son's horse jumped and took a few hops. He looked like he was a goner, lost a stirrup and was leaning toward the outside when he found his determination and reached down to hold on and make the ride. I can see it clearly in my mind but can't make it to paper. The look on his face when he stayed on was priceless: a combination of amazement and pride.

      Edit: I didn't mean for the first shot to be so large. It's only sketched on a 5x8 notepad in a portrait view with a regular #2 pencil. Aside from being hard to see, the first attachment was way too magnified.

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      Lovely gesture.
      Last edited by tooblue; 08-27-2017, 12:12 PM.

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      • #33
        I came across the work of Eyvind Earle on Twitter a while back, and I love his work. I think he used to be a Disney artist. His work certainly has that stylized look:
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        I'd love to buy some prints, but all I can find are official prints from select galleries. So now I'm not so sure how much I love his stuff.
        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
        - SeattleUte

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        • #34
          Any of you guys ever hear of "The Gnarled Branch" dude? He goes to thrift stores and buys cheap paintings/prints and then "redirects" them by putting some additions on the paintings. He has an FB page, Instagram, Etsy, etc.

          https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/TheGnarledBranch/items
          https://www.instagram.com/thegnarledbranch/
          https://www.redbubble.com/shop/the+g...ordion=product

          It is kitsch and cheesy as hell, but I love it. Seriously considering buying a copy of the Matt Foley print.

          A few examples:






          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Any of you guys ever hear of "The Gnarled Branch" dude? He goes to thrift stores and buys cheap paintings/prints and then "redirects" them by putting some additions on the paintings. He has an FB page, Instagram, Etsy, etc.

            https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/TheGnarledBranch/items
            https://www.instagram.com/thegnarledbranch/
            https://www.redbubble.com/shop/the+g...ordion=product

            It is kitsch and cheesy as hell, but I love it. Seriously considering buying a copy of the Matt Foley print.

            A few examples:






            Kitsch yes, but then what art isn't? Strangely fun stuff—in a way kinda reminds me of SIMON STÅLENHAG's sci-fi retro paintings:





            https://wowxwow.com/artist-profile/simon-stalenhag-ap
            Last edited by tooblue; 08-31-2017, 05:47 AM.

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            • #36
              This guy is great. I think I'll buy something.
              We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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              • #37
                On my mission, I was transferred to a new area just as an elderly woman was being baptized. I did the last two discussions. She had a large mural of the silhouette of a mountain range in front of a red-orange sky. I liked it as it reminded me of the sunsets in Arizona.

                I complimented her on the painting and she thanked me and said it was new. When we came back, I realized something was a little strange about one of the peaks. It had a unique outcropping at the very top that didn't seem normal for a mountain. "That looks like a breast and nipple," I thought. I looked to the left and right of the nippled peak in horror as I realized I'd heaped praise upon a nude woman's silhouette, realizing in a moment of shocking clarity that she said it was a "nude" and not new.
                Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                • #38
                  Coulda been worse. Orchids.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                    On my mission, I was transferred to a new area just as an elderly woman was being baptized. I did the last two discussions. She had a large mural of the silhouette of a mountain range in front of a red-orange sky. I liked it as it reminded me of the sunsets in Arizona.

                    I complimented her on the painting and she thanked me and said it was new. When we came back, I realized something was a little strange about one of the peaks. It had a unique outcropping at the very top that didn't seem normal for a mountain. "That looks like a breast and nipple," I thought. I looked to the left and right of the nippled peak in horror as I realized I'd heaped praise upon a nude woman's silhouette, realizing in a moment of shocking clarity that she said it was a "nude" and not new.
                    In my home growing up, we had a large painting hanging in our front foyer of two woman standing side by side, one of which was partially nude showing a breast through a sheer robe. It was painted in an impressionistic style by the adult step son of my aunt (my mother's sister). My mom kept peacock feathers and dried, feathery tall grasses in a large copper vase near it. When her visiting teachers came to visit, they would say: "we are coming over, you know where to position the feathers!"

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                      Coulda been worse. Orchids.
                      Hahaha
                      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • #41
                        Sketch from a picture of my daughter riding next to me the other day.

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                        "Outlined against a blue, gray
                        October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
                        Grantland Rice, 1924

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by cowboy View Post
                          Sketch from a picture of my daughter riding next to me the other day.

                          very nice.

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                          • #43
                            Cowboy: I like that you are drawing on the blue tinted paper; have you thought of trying to add a water colour wash to your drawing before inking. For example, you could choose one colour to work with, then do you ink drawing over the top of the washes. Here's an artist, whose aesthetic reminds me a little of your work:

                            https://www.theguardian.com/artandde...ith-abdul-ahad

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by tooblue View Post
                              Cowboy: I like that you are drawing on the blue tinted paper; have you thought of trying to add a water colour wash to your drawing before inking. For example, you could choose one colour to work with, then do you ink drawing over the top of the washes. Here's an artist, whose aesthetic reminds me a little of your work:

                              https://www.theguardian.com/artandde...ith-abdul-ahad

                              I don't know why I didn't see this earlier. I'll try it.

                              Here is a sketch I've worked on since seeing the Marine Corps mounted color guard at the Cody Stampede on the 4th of July. The faces look a little cartoonish but I struggled to make such fine lines with the pen I was using.
                              Last edited by cowboy; 10-01-2017, 03:23 PM.
                              sigpic
                              "Outlined against a blue, gray
                              October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
                              Grantland Rice, 1924

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                              • #45
                                very nice

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