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    You had a guy named Zadock Dinkelman decommit? Dodged a bullet with that one.

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    Maybe I’m wrong, but it looks like Dink might end up at UTSA. That says quite a bit about how his star has fallen.


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    Look at Dinkelmans Hudl video. For a big kid, he has the worst delivery and mechanics I have ever seen. He throws this funky, short arm motion. Similar to the Matt Berry shot-put. It is really ugly and he has no arm strength at all. Every ball he threw his receivers were open by 10 yards and he underthrew them making them wait for the ball. He can go to UTSA, I am fine with that.


    BYU missed on Cammon Cooper from Lehi and Zach Wilson from Corner Canyon. Cooper is gone for sure but they are trying to make a late run at Zach Wilson who is a Boise commit. With McKee most likely not coming, we are desperate for a qb in this class. I thought we might make a late run at Kenyon Oblad but he committed to UNLV yesterday.

    I also expect BYU to pull that lurpy Herriman Qbs offer. Blake Freeland, he is terrible. He completed 42% of his passes, threw more ints than tds, and on the season he only threw for 80 yards a game. Ty sucked at evaluating QB talent.
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    I know it’s way to early to say it, but I’m beginning to think Ty just sucks as a coach, period. He’d be better off in the ADs office doing appearances and fundraising. I hope he doesn’t take the QB coach job


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    I know it’s way to early to say it, but I’m beginning to think Ty just sucks as a coach, period. He’d be better off in the ADs office doing appearances and fundraising. I hope he doesn’t take the QB coach job


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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    BYU missed on Cammon Cooper from Lehi and Zach Wilson from Corner Canyon. Cooper is gone for sure but they are trying to make a late run at Zach Wilson who is a Boise commit. With McKee most likely not coming, we are desperate for a qb in this class. I thought we might make a late run at Kenyon Oblad but he committed to UNLV yesterday.
    Do you think Cooper would've come to BYU had we offered? Playing QB in a Mike Leech system has to be most high school QBs dreams.

    I'm not sure I agree with you that we're desperate for a QB to sign this class as an underclassman - unless you feel like our QB cupboard is in the shitter. Hoge will be a Junior. Critchlow will be a Soph next year. Wilstead will be a Freshman. Jaren Hall will be home from his mission and likely redshirt. It'd definitely be nice to sign a guy this year, but I don't feel like it's critical.

    I'm a believer that in an ideal world, you're signing a QB every class. But with BYU and missions, that can be a bit tricky. Hall coming home from his mission is basically that QB for me. It may not be a bad idea to try and find a JC guy next season either way. And I'd say we definitely need a QB in next class no matter what. Maybe two if one is a mission-first kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Look at Dinkelmans Hudl video. For a big kid, he has the worst delivery and mechanics I have ever seen. He throws this funky, short arm motion. Similar to the Matt Berry shot-put. It is really ugly and he has no arm strength at all. Every ball he threw his receivers were open by 10 yards and he underthrew them making them wait for the ball. He can go to UTSA, I am fine with that.


    BYU missed on Cammon Cooper from Lehi and Zach Wilson from Corner Canyon. Cooper is gone for sure but they are trying to make a late run at Zach Wilson who is a Boise commit. With McKee most likely not coming, we are desperate for a qb in this class. I thought we might make a late run at Kenyon Oblad but he committed to UNLV yesterday.

    I also expect BYU to pull that lurpy Herriman Qbs offer. Blake Freeland, he is terrible. He completed 42% of his passes, threw more ints than tds, and on the season he only threw for 80 yards a game. Ty sucked at evaluating QB talent.
    We played both Lehi and Corner Canyon this year and both QB’s were well beyond anyone else I saw this year in Utah. I was surprised neither seemed to have interest from BYU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    Do you think Cooper would've come to BYU had we offered? Playing QB in a Mike Leech system has to be most high school QBs dreams.

    I'm not sure I agree with you that we're desperate for a QB to sign this class as an underclassman - unless you feel like our QB cupboard is in the shitter. Hoge will be a Junior. Critchlow will be a Soph next year. Wilstead will be a Freshman. Jaren Hall will be home from his mission and likely redshirt. It'd definitely be nice to sign a guy this year, but I don't feel like it's critical.

    I'm a believer that in an ideal world, you're signing a QB every class. But with BYU and missions, that can be a bit tricky. Hall coming home from his mission is basically that QB for me. It may not be a bad idea to try and find a JC guy next season either way. And I'd say we definitely need a QB in next class no matter what. Maybe two if one is a mission-first kid.
    From what I have heard, Kody Wilstead has not looked good at all.

    To be honest I saw flashes from Ginger Joe, but I don't think Critchlow or Hoge are the answer moving forward.

    A JC qb like a Jason Beck, Brendan Gaskins or even better a Christian Stewart would be a nice addition to this team. If BYU does go after Paul Peterson, I could see them offering Shane Johnson from Snow College. He threw for 2200 yards and ran for 600 last season, he also accounted for 29 total tds (passing and rushing) and only 5 ints. He is 6'2 220 so decent size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    I know it’s way to early to say it, but I’m beginning to think Ty just sucks as a coach, period. He’d be better off in the ADs office doing appearances and fundraising. I hope he doesn’t take the QB coach job


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    Quote Originally Posted by cougjunkie View Post
    From what I have heard, Kody Wilstead has not looked good at all.

    To be honest I saw flashes from Ginger Joe, but I don't think Critchlow or Hoge are the answer moving forward.

    A JC qb like a Jason Beck, Brendan Gaskins or even better a Christian Stewart would be a nice addition to this team. If BYU does go after Paul Peterson, I could see them offering Shane Johnson from Snow College. He threw for 2200 yards and ran for 600 last season, he also accounted for 29 total tds (passing and rushing) and only 5 ints. He is 6'2 220 so decent size.
    The practice I watched (which was spring, for what it's worth) Wilstead's delivery looked long and slow. But he's also a freshman. Maybe in two years he can be more ready to contribute.

    If you had to have a one-year stop gap, I think Hoge could be that guy (I'm assuming Mangum is either done-zo or gone-zo). The biggest concern I have with him is his ability to stay healthy. Critchlow honestly did some good things at QB this year. Few true Freshman QBs have shown as much as he did, so I'm not totally out on him. I do think with more reps and focused coaching, he can get to the point of being the QB of an 8-10 win BYU team.

    I am higher on Jaren Hall. I did like his film (quite a bit, actually). But I do think he'll need two years before he's ready to play. Maybe three.

    Truthfully, depending on Mangum and Hoge's health, a JC QB option may not be a terrible idea anyways.

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    Lol. It's WAY LATE!
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    Stacy Conner, a former UNLV QB commit out of DFW area switches commitment to BYU.

    His hudl highlights are so-so, but I can see why the coaches would like his upside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post
    Stacy Conner, a former UNLV QB commit out of DFW area switches commitment to BYU.

    His hudl highlights are so-so, but I can see why the coaches would like his upside.
    Doesn’t he know TFD isnt our OC anymore? I thought that slammed the door shut on BYU recruiting Texas

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    Apparently, Micah Simon (and ZD’s decommit) are responsible.
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    my understanding was that Freeland was coming as a TE. even if Detmer sucks at evaluating QB talent, i can't believe he would such THAT bad. Freeland can't play at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    We know he sucks as an OC. I was just thinking maybe he’d suck just as bad as a QB coach, too.


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    Lost our best recruit who has been committed for a long time.

    Brandon Kaho flipped to Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCoug View Post
    Lost our best recruit who has been committed for a long time.

    Brandon Kaho flipped to Washington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCoug View Post
    Lost our best recruit who has been committed for a long time.

    Brandon Kaho flipped to Washington.
    I hope the bleeding stops soon. At this point, I just feel relieved that he didn't flip to Utah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USUC View Post
    I hope the bleeding stops soon. At this point, I just feel relieved that he didn't flip to Utah.
    I just feel disappointed that he didn't flip off Utah.

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    Interesting reading Twitter and really seeing folks viserate Sitake for not being able to hold onto the top tier poly kids.

    I wonder if the record is the deciding factor in all of this, or if there is some community animosity due to the Bernard situation and the Tolutau suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Tick View Post
    Interesting reading Twitter and really seeing folks viserate Sitake for not being able to hold onto the top tier poly kids.

    I wonder if the record is the deciding factor in all of this, or if there is some community animosity due to the Bernard situation and the Tolutau suspension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Tick View Post
    Interesting reading Twitter and really seeing folks viserate Sitake for not being able to hold onto the top tier poly kids.

    I wonder if the record is the deciding factor in all of this, or if there is some community animosity due to the Bernard situation and the Tolutau suspension.
    I think people are beginning to realize the external challenges BYU faces. A consequence of that facing of reality is the top tier kids from within the culture are catching on as well. It will definitely hurt recruiting for a year or two or even three, but I still believe BYU can field a top tier non P5 program and if they are that dog they will get some of these top kids from friendly to BYU families. BYU has money. BYU has a huge alumni and fan base that wants it to be successful. To get there BYU is going to have to join some arms races and commit resources and possibly change some attitudes within certain circles but the resources and potential if there if a decision is made to leverage it. I do think that the hiring of Jeff Grimes could be an indicator that BYU is committing itself to leveraging its potential in football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    I think people are beginning to realize the external challenges BYU faces. A consequence of that facing of reality is the top tier kids from within the culture are catching on as well. It will definitely hurt recruiting for a year or two or even three, but I still believe BYU can field a top tier non P5 program and if they are that dog they will get some of these top kids from friendly to BYU families. BYU has money. BYU has a huge alumni and fan base that wants it to be successful. To get there BYU is going to have to join some arms races and commit resources and possibly change some attitudes within certain circles but the resources and potential if there if a decision is made to leverage it. I do think that the hiring of Jeff Grimes could be an indicator that BYU is committing itself to leveraging its potential in football.
    I hope you are right. We had another kid decommit today. At this rate, we aren't going to have to worry about too many more kids decommiting, because we will be all out of commits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Tick View Post
    I hope you are right. We had another kid decommit today. At this rate, we aren't going to have to worry about too many more kids decommiting, because we will be all out of commits.
    That guy was a two star with no other real offers. Almost wonder if the coaches pulled his offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    That guy was a two star with no other real offers. Almost wonder if the coaches pulled his offer.
    Or if the primary coach(es) who were recruiting him were informed they're no longer on the staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle View Post
    Or if the primary coach(es) who were recruiting him were informed they're no longer on the staff.
    That also works. Probably not a big loss. I hope not at least.

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    So he is 5 8" 180 lbs running back. Only other offer is Montana State. I'm ok losing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPiney View Post
    So he is 5 8" 180 lbs running back. Only other offer is Montana State. I'm ok losing him.
    I can understand that. Perception doesn't look good though. I know our o-line commits are all excited though. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Tick View Post
    I can understand that. Perception doesn't look good though. I know our o-line commits are all excited though. Lol.
    The game is won in the trenches!

    I am trying to be hopeful, but after this season it is really hard.

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