Impeaching Trump: Make America Sane Again

[falafel]

Thanks for sharing that single person's opinion on the impeachment process.

[Uncle Ted]

Thanks for sharing that single person's opinion on the impeachment process.

You didn’t read the comments? There are at least two.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Lost Student]

Thanks for sharing that single person's opinion on the impeachment process.

He's run out of articles to link and will now start posting tweets and posts from any random people.

[Jeff Lebowski]

He's run out of articles to link and will now start posting tweets and posts from any random people.

[BlueK]

"once more for the record: Trump withheld U.S. aid to Ukraine in order to extort Ukraine’s president into helping smear Joe Biden, Trump’s political rival. That’s it. Game over. Everything else — how it served Vladimir Putin’s interests in undermining Ukraine and deflecting Russian guilt for hacking the 2016 U.S. election — no matter how damning it may be, is just treasonous icing on the impeachable cake.

The U.S. eventually released the aid, which the White House had no authority to delay, only after the whistleblower blew the whistle. This is not a defense. There’s no such thing as “attempted extortion.” The threat is the crime, regardless of whether it was successful. This wasn’t diplomatic hardball, or anything between nations. It was Trump abusing the authority of the United States to help his reelection.

This may still sound like small potatoes, even if it’s a greater offense than, say, what President Nixon did leading to his resignation over Watergate. Is it really worth impeaching a president over shaking down a country most Americans can’t find on a map?

First, finding things on a map is fine, but Trump seems to care an awful lot about Ukraine, so Americans should too. He had Rudy Giuliani running a shadow foreign office in Ukraine, one dedicated to private profit, not the national interest.

Trump’s actions are not a borderline impeachment case. They are exactly what the American Founding Fathers warned against when they debated including impeachment in the Constitution they were writing."

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...s6q-story.html

[Walter Sobchak]

shorter BlueK: "The walls are closing in."

[SeattleUte]

Thanks for sharing that single person's opinion on the impeachment process.

313k followers. He's not just some guy.

[Commando]

lol game over. No wonder the WH and the DOS forbade Sondland to testify.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Meh. I stopped following the impeachment closely. It is obvious that the republican hacks in the senate will not vote to impeach regardless of what evidence comes out. He could shoot someone on 5th avenue and they would argue that the person deserved it or that it was self defense or something.

[UVACoug]

"once more for the record: Trump withheld U.S. aid to Ukraine in order to extort Ukraine’s president into helping smear Joe Biden, Trump’s political rival. That’s it. Game over. Everything else — how it served Vladimir Putin’s interests in undermining Ukraine and deflecting Russian guilt for hacking the 2016 U.S. election — no matter how damning it may be, is just treasonous icing on the impeachable cake.

The U.S. eventually released the aid, which the White House had no authority to delay, only after the whistleblower blew the whistle. This is not a defense. There’s no such thing as “attempted extortion.” The threat is the crime, regardless of whether it was successful. This wasn’t diplomatic hardball, or anything between nations. It was Trump abusing the authority of the United States to help his reelection.

This may still sound like small potatoes, even if it’s a greater offense than, say, what President Nixon did leading to his resignation over Watergate. Is it really worth impeaching a president over shaking down a country most Americans can’t find on a map?

First, finding things on a map is fine, but Trump seems to care an awful lot about Ukraine, so Americans should too. He had Rudy Giuliani running a shadow foreign office in Ukraine, one dedicated to private profit, not the national interest.

Trump’s actions are not a borderline impeachment case. They are exactly what the American Founding Fathers warned against when they debated including impeachment in the Constitution they were writing."

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...s6q-story.html

This isn't true. If it were true, Obama and several prior Presidents would be subject to impeachment on the same grounds. The problem was the reason why the aid was delayed, not the threat to withhold aid. That happens all the time and is a standard part of foreign policy with which the President holds a vast amount of discretion.

[Commando]

The funny part that I hadn't even realized is that the call between Trump and the president of Ukraine was this monumental, long-anticipated event-- not a spontaneous happening-- and the moron loudly brings up the Biden stuff. If he had even a modicum of discretion or half a brain he would have totally gotten away with everything.

[USUC]

lol game over. No wonder the WH and the DOS forbade Sondland to testify.

Game over? The game has been over and determined since before this process started. It's an election year. The GOP will just use it as a cover and say "the country will decide, not the House." He won't be removed from office.

Everyone knows Trump is awful. It's an election year. The people who hate him can vote him out. I don't know what the democrats can gain from this other than the self satisfaction that they voted to impeach. But they are still putting up terrible presidential candidates against someone who should be easily beat. Jokers to the left me ...

[Commando]

Game over? The game has been over and determined since before this process started. It's an election year. The GOP will just use it as a cover and say "the country will decide, not the House." He won't be removed from office.

Everyone knows Trump is awful. It's an election year. The people who hate him can vote him out. I don't know what the democrats can gain from this other than the self satisfaction that they voted to impeach. But they are still putting up terrible presidential candidates against someone who should be easily beat. Jokers to the left me ...

Mind you I am just as cynical as you and JL. I just think this is so funny-- there is SO little wiggle room left, and the silence from the usual suspects is deafening right now, but rest assured they'll come up with something...

Also, I'm less cynical about the Democratic candidates. This is par for the course for any nomination process. You have candidates who all have their pet issues, and its up to the party and the final nominee to coalesce these into a digestible platform. Hilary got the popular vote, for Pete's sake, even before we had an idea of how big of a buffoon he is...

*Clowns to the left of me..

[LVAllen]

LMAO. So.. This just happened:



Sharpie-man strikes again.

[Commando]

LMAO. So.. This just happened:



Sharpie-man strikes again.

lol- what is the point of this little rant? I think this falls under 'too little too late.'