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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    If the media never discussed stories that were reported by others because they were challenged or dismissed by government spokespeople, we would miss out on a lot. The net result would not be good.
    But that is not what I said. If you can't corroborate it, shouldn't you pass on reporting it? Reporting it as an uncorroborated story reported by someone else is just a shade away from doing it yourself.
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    Looks like there is evidence of the racism that exists at the high school those kids were from. Just look at this picture someone found of them all flashing the white power hand sign

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Looks like there is evidence of the racism that exists at the high school those kids were from. Just look at this picture someone found of them all flashing the white power hand sign

    It was a blackout game I read. White power signs or three ball? LOL. This shit is so stupid.

    The news this week and all the screaming hot takes have been hot garbage. I've unfollowed more friends on social media this week than I can remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    Part of the problem is the American public no longer understands or makes an effort to separate hard news from pundit shows, talk radio, blogs and now twitter posts. Some of that fault lies with the media companies who in an effort to keep their audience tried to engage them in new ways. The old dinosaurs stilll do it best and have standards, with editors and fact-checkers. How often do we hear talk show hosts issues corrections or retractions? How about bloggers or people in the twittersphere?

    There are fewer newspapers around, fewer professional reporters and fewer news bureaus. That’s also a problem.

    The American news diet is poor.
    I agree with this. I think the bolded part is a little off the mark however. I'm not sure we've lost this, I think we just had a culture in which, generally, trust in the national media had been earned. Instead of the larger institutions holding strong and elevating the conversation, they are being pulled down to the level of the pundits. The population is just now waking up to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Looks like there is evidence of the racism that exists at the high school those kids were from. Just look at this picture someone found of them all flashing the white power hand sign

    Great. Now the social media whiplash back again.

    Twitter is such a shit hole.

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    This Covington thing is disgusting. Any adults who have jumped in on the internet mob and attacked these kids should be ashamed. Good grief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfah View Post
    It was a blackout game I read. White power signs or three ball? LOL. This shit is so stupid.

    The news this week and all the screaming hot takes have been hot garbage. I've unfollowed more friends on social media this week than I can remember.
    What's wonderful is taking a long break from social media period.

    Some of the kids with their tomahawks chops etc, were disrespectful, but they were reacting not initiating, and they are not adults and the standard should not be the same. I don't think there is every justification for doxxing and harrassing people. We're devolving that way.

    Can we move this conversation to the outrage thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    Some of the kids with their tomahawks chops etc, were disrespectful, but they were reacting not initiating, and they are not adults and the standard should not be the same.
    That's exactly how I have come to terms with AOC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    What's wonderful is taking a long break from social media period.

    Some of the kids with their tomahawks chops etc, were disrespectful, but they were reacting not initiating, and they are not adults and the standard should not be the same. I don't think there is every justification for doxxing and harrassing people. We're devolving that way.

    Can we move this conversation to the outrage thread?
    Maybe I just missed it, but I didn't see the tomahawk chops. I did see the kids moving their arms up and down, but it seemed like it was just in rhythm to the beat, and not a Seminole-like "chop".
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    Quote Originally Posted by All-American View Post
    That's exactly how I have come to terms with AOC.
    I laughed. Well played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    This Covington thing is disgusting. Any adults who have jumped in on the internet mob and attacked these kids should be ashamed. Good grief.

    Yeah, some folks on CNN are now ... so good for them.


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    Yeah that kid's still an asshole and made it a point to not move out of the way and smirk in that guy's face. If he was so peaceful and conflict-averse, he could have just gone and done something else. His little written explanation of his side of things makes it apparent what a shithead he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    The smirking kid provides a well-crafted response to those who have ripped on him. He should have just walked away but he wasn't looking for a confrontation.



    I think he may be little disingenuous, but he's undeserving of the grief the national press have heaped upon him.
    Of course that's disingenuous. A well-crafted response by necessity, but let's not turn dumb all of a sudden: 'I was not intentionally making faces at the protestor?' He was mean mugging him Ice Man style for a sustained period. That wasn't a smile- what a dick. He wanted to 'diffuse the situation by remaining motionless?' - conveniently motionless right in the path of the native elder performing a blessing ritual. Awesome, dickhead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    Yeah that kid's still an asshole and made it a point to not move out of the way and smirk in that guy's face. If he was so peaceful and conflict-averse, he could have just gone and done something else. His little written explanation of his side of things makes it apparent what a shithead he is.
    When you are going after kids like this, might be a good time to check yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    When you are going after kids like this, might be a good time to check yourself.
    I don't give mini-Magas any more of a free pass than their bloated, bewildered progenitors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    I don't give mini-Magas any more of a free pass than their bloated, bewildered progenitors.
    If that is true, then you are no better than any of them. Don't kid yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    If that is true, then you are no better than any of them. Don't kid yourself.
    Maybe not. I don't think I'm a particularly good person, though. And I really do hate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    Of course that's disingenuous. A well-crafted response by necessity, but let's not turn dumb all of a sudden: 'I was not intentionally making faces at the protestor?' He was mean mugging him Ice Man style for a sustained period. That wasn't a smile- what a dick. He wanted to 'diffuse the situation by remaining motionless?' - conveniently motionless right in the path of the native elder performing a blessing ritual. Awesome, dickhead.
    Dude, save your indignation did something else. This situation does not deserve it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Looks like there is evidence of the racism that exists at the high school those kids were from. Just look at this picture someone found of them all flashing the white power hand sign

    And he's deleted his tweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    Not sure what point you're trying to make here, unless you're simply agreeing with the "many" (per your cited article) that the kid's hard stare and and small were creepy (i,e., punchable). And note that the Native American (perhaps your relative!) had nothing to do with the offensive BHI group but the kid was apparently too stupid to figure that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    Yeah that kid's still an asshole and made it a point to not move out of the way and smirk in that guy's face. If he was so peaceful and conflict-averse, he could have just gone and done something else. His little written explanation of his side of things makes it apparent what a shithead he is.
    Can you please point me at the evidence suggesting that this kid made it a point to not move out of the way? What I understand is the kids were standing together in a group, not in anyone's way to anywhere. They were just finishing up some sightseeing and were waiting for a bus. The native american walked purposefully into the middle of the group, singled out this young man, pressed his face up within inches, all while banging his drum.

    Yet the kid is misbehaving for smirking? Given the abuse that had been hurled at them for a significant period of time, they remained remarkably civil.

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    Lol. Lunatic commando is back!!!

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    I can't believe they are now questioning that my brother was a vietnam veteran!...

    Vietnam Veteran status of Native American at center of viral encounter in D.C. in question

    Native American activist Nathan Phillips faces questions about reports that he’s a veteran of the Vietnam war.
    According to multiple news accounts, the activist is 64 years old, which means he would have been 18 years old in 1973, the last year any U.S. combat units were stationed in Vietnam. Mr. Phillips also claims to be a Marine veteran, although the last Marine combat units left Vietnam in 1971.
    [...]
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...atus-question/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    I can't believe they are now questioning that my brother was a vietnam veteran!...


    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...atus-question/
    Yay! I'm so happy we can destroy another persons' character and life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    Yay! I'm so happy we can destroy another persons' character and life!
    Yeah, my brother should sue the news as well... I am sure he did combat in nam (even if it was just in his own mind).
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    Quote Originally Posted by swampfrog View Post
    Can you please point me at the evidence suggesting that this kid made it a point to not move out of the way?
    He says so in his 'explanation.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Dude, save your indignation did something else. This situation does not deserve it.
    I've got plenty to go 'round. Don't you worry.


    You are right, though. Some kids being assholes in maga hats or whatever doesn't move the needle in the bigger picture where this administration goes on TV and lies to us in order to install its xenophobic, anti humanitarian policies. I have otherwise smart people whom I've known and respected for a long time now arguing with me that a wall is a good idea, despite what empirical evidence and common sense suggests. Why do I even try?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YOhio View Post
    Lol. Lunatic commando is back!!!
    You remember when there were a single set of footprints? That was when I was carrying you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    You remember when there were a single set of footprints? That was when I was carrying you.
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