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    Quote Originally Posted by UVACoug View Post
    Damn... Drumpf sounds like a madman! If I was the Turk President I would be negotiating hard especially now the madman has approval for war from Congress.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Damn... Drumpf sounds like a madman! If I was the Turk President I would be negotiating hard especially now the madman has approval for war from Congress.


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    Yeah. Look, no one is afraid of that blowhard paper tiger madman. Except I guess his toadie cabinet members.
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    That letter is an impeachable offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Damn... Drumpf sounds like a madman! If I was the Turk President I would be negotiating hard especially now the madman has approval for war from Congress.


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    HAHAHAHAHA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Damn... Drumpf sounds like a madman! If I was the Turk President I would be negotiating hard especially now the madman has approval for war from Congress.


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    "Turkish" President not Turk President. The madman isn't going to do shit to Turkey or Erdogan.

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    Yikes. I'm surprised his use of the word 'deal' didn't come with the little TM symbol that Walt was using earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wapiti View Post
    That letter is an impeachable offense.
    Damn straight.
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    What are the Dems waiting for? They need to take a vote and impeach Drumpf!

    Trump is on his way to an easy win in 2020, according to Moody’s accurate election model


    • President Donald Trump will win reelection easily in 2020 if the economy holds up, modeling by Moody’s Analytics shows.
    • “If voters were to vote primarily on the basis of their pocketbooks, the president would steamroll the competition,” the report states.
    • Three models show Trump getting at least 289 electoral votes and as many as 351, assuming average turnout.
    • The Moody’s models have been backtested to 1980 and were correct each time — except in 2016, when it indicated Clinton would get a narrow victory.


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    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/15/mood...-holds-up.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by wapiti View Post
    That letter is an impeachable offense.
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    I've thought for a while now that there is a strong likelihood that Trump is using his tweets to manipulate the market for his friends. Here's someone else who thinks the same and has some evidence that there are people taking advantage.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...p-chaos-trades

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    Quote Originally Posted by wapiti View Post
    I've thought for a while now that there is a strong likelihood that Trump is using his tweets to manipulate the market for his friends. Here's someone else who thinks the same and has some evidence that there are people taking advantage.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...p-chaos-trades
    that would be an impeachable offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wapiti View Post
    I've thought for a while now that there is a strong likelihood that Trump is using his tweets to manipulate the market for his friends. Here's someone else who thinks the same and has some evidence that there are people taking advantage.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...p-chaos-trades
    I have thought that for over a year. A strong upswing seems to be followed by a tweet about more tariffs. A downswing is followed by a tweet that is optimistic about a trade deal, etc. It would be great to see his tweets in line with the s&p movements over the last 18 months
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    Maybe the president is end-running The Fed's quarterly pronouncements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    I have thought that for over a year. A strong upswing seems to be followed by a tweet about more tariffs. A downswing is followed by a tweet that is optimistic about a trade deal, etc. It would be great to see his tweets in line with the s&p movements over the last 18 months
    But that’s not what the article is alluding to. The article is alluding to coordination of trades and optimistic tweets. Definitely an impeachable offense and something that, if there is any truth to it, will be investigated and prosecuted. The SEC goes after people for much, much less than what is implied in the article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    But that’s not what the article is alluding to. The article is alluding to coordination of trades and optimistic tweets. Definitely an impeachable offense and something that, if there is any truth to it, will be investigated and prosecuted. The SEC goes after people for much, much less than what is implied in the article.
    If true, that is devastating.
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    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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    Yes, don't let the voters decide... they are dumbasses.

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    I actually agree with her this time.

    If Trump has done something that deserves impeachment, then they should impeach him. That is their duty. If elected officials break the law, they should be held accountable - not by the voters, per se, but by those who are in position to carry out the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    I actually agree with her this time.

    If Trump has done something that deserves impeachment, then they should impeach him. That is their duty. If elected officials break the law, they should be held accountable - not by the voters, per se, but by those who are in position to carry out the law.
    Agreed. Maybe the dumbest criticism made so far of the House taking up impeachment is that they're trying to un-do the 2016 election. It totally ignores the fact that there was also an election in 2018 which is what has made this possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    Agreed. Maybe the dumbest criticism made so far of the House taking up impeachment is that they're trying to un-do the 2016 election. It totally ignores the fact that there was also an election in 2018 which is what has made this possible.
    Both elections are irrelevant to the impeachment proceeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wapiti View Post
    Both elections are irrelevant to the impeachment proceeding.
    It depends on how you want to look at it. In 2016 Trump was elected and he started to do his thing. In 2018 there was an election in which the electorate in general voted in a House they knew would serve as a check and balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    It depends on how you want to look at it. In 2016 Trump was elected and he started to do his thing. In 2018 there was an election in which the electorate in general voted in a House they knew would serve as a check and balance.
    I don't see how election results give or remove any moral affirmation for impeachment. Impeachment in a moral/criminal issue, not a mandate issue.
    Elections affect mandates and little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefytee View Post
    I don't see how election results give or remove any moral affirmation for impeachment. Impeachment in a moral/criminal issue, not a mandate issue.
    I agree. I was just disagreeing with the dumb assertion that Congress is overstepping its authority or is trying to un-do an election. It's not. It's doing what it is supposed to under the constitution. It's just ironic when those folks bring up the 2016 election and ignore the fact that there is one of those held every two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    It depends on how you want to look at it. In 2016 Trump was elected and he started to do his thing. In 2018 there was an election in which the electorate in general voted in a House they knew would serve as a check and balance.
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    Those crickets chirping? Those are Senate Repubs not defending Trump's behavior. The hole keeps getting deeper and wider. They need to be careful they don't fall in.

    Here’s the quid pro quo proof, Lindsey Graham

    If all you have to complain about is "process," you are losing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    Those crickets chirping? Those are Senate Repubs not defending Trump's behavior. The hole keeps getting deeper and wider. They need to be careful they don't fall in.

    Here’s the quid pro quo proof, Lindsey Graham

    If all you have to complain about is "process," you are losing.
    Yeah I think he's toast. Even if he's not convicted, he's definitely impeached. It's a permanent stain on his presidency-- at least one that people will remember among the minefield of stains he's left on the presidency in general.
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    lol Trump cannot open his mouth with spouting untruths. McConnell throws Trump under the bus. Repubs not sticking together like those dirty Dems.

    2:25 p.m.: McConnell contradicts Trump on praise of call with Ukrainian president

    Trump has said McConnell told him his call with the Ukrainian president at the center of the impeachment inquiry was “the most innocent phone call” and was “perfect.”

    But when asked about it Tuesday, McConnell said, “I don’t recall any conversations with the president about that phone call.”

    “We’ve not had any conversations on that subject,” McConnell told reporters at the Capitol. Asked whether Trump was lying, he demurred. “You’d have to ask him,” McConnell said.
    But Little Marco is willing to prevaricate for Trump. WTF?

    “I don’t know what they’re supposed to be doing,” Rubio said. “They’re not allowed in the room, they’re not allowed to have attorneys there, they’re not allowed to have anybody there listening to the evidence that’s being presented against them. So I’m not sure what more they can do.”

    Rubio also claimed that Democrats are “taking pieces of testimony that further the Democratic narrative and putting it out there.”
    But . . . . .

    House Democrats and Republicans on the committees of jurisdiction have been given equal time to question witnesses in the closed-door depositions.
    Again, if you're arguing "process," you're losing, especially if you need to lie about it.

    Live updates: Taylor’s testimony on alleged Ukraine quid pro quo called ‘damning,’ as firestorm continues over Trump’s lynching tweet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    Yeah I think he's toast. Even if he's not convicted, he's definitely impeached. It's a permanent stain on his presidency-- at least one that people will remember among the minefield of stains he's left on the presidency in general.
    Which republican senators might flip and vote for conviction? 48 dems. Mitt, Collins. They'll need 16 more.

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