2017-2018 BYU hoops........

[Joe Public]

Someone on twitter said it was 2:1 BYU to Princeton fans

Nice. I love that.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Lol @ the Ivy League.

[Omaha 680]

I see a lot of BYU gear in the crowd. Are there more BYU fans than Princeton fans?

Probably 60/40 Princeton. The side behind the benches was mostly byu, and the other side was mostly Princeton but had an upper level.

[Topper]

Proonanly 40/60 BYU. The side behind the benches was mostly byu, and the other side was mostly Princeton but had an upper level.

Princeton fans were commending BYU for its defense. I only listened and did not watch. What was your impression?

[Omaha 680]

Someone on twitter said it was 2:1 BYU to Princeton fans

That someone is wrong.

[BlueK]

Princeton fans were commending BYU for its defense. I only listened and did not watch. What was your impression?

72 possessions for Princeton, 56 points. According to how Pomeroy calculates this stuff that is very good defense. I also watched, and the D also passed the eyeball test. Few open shots for either team really.

[Omaha 680]

Princeton fans were commending BYU for its defense. I only listened and did not watch. What was your impression?

Defense was actually good. Everyone was moving their feet well and taking away penetration much better than last year. Gave them too many open 3s but they closed our much better than last year. The big problem was not rebounding after forcing them into a contested 3.

[Moliere]

Didn't see any of it but glad they won. This won't be a great team, but they will be good...but mostly I just want them to be fun to watch. Last year was brutal. Looks like they mean to compete this year.

[pelagius]

Lol @ the Ivy League.

My favorite ivy league student dynamic. Student arrives freshman year -> realizes they are in bottom part of the distribution -> reformulates life plan (the one carefully crafted for them by their parents) -> major in religion (usually NT studies) -> now s/he can spend next four years drunk -> downside, end up getting a job in economic consulting.

[old_gregg]

drinking your way into a consulting gig at bcg doesn’t sound so bad.

[pelagius]

drinking your way into a consulting gig at bcg doesn’t sound so bad.

The ones that can't, go to law school. It all works out.

[old_gregg]

The ones that can't, go to law school. It all works out.

agree. ranking imo:

hedge fund > pe > ib > mbb > accenture tier > biglaw > b4

[Topper]

My favorite ivy league student dynamic. Student arrives freshman year -> realizes they are in bottom part of the distribution -> reformulates life plan (the one carefully crafted for them by their parents) -> major in religion (usually NT studies) -> now s/he can spend next four years drunk -> downside, end up getting a job in economic consulting.

lol

[Omaha 680]

I was especially pleased that they were able to win through good defense and FT shooting when nothing else was working right. I believe we were 25-27 from FT; I'm hoping this is back to being a strength for us as it seemed like our FT shooting kept letting us down the last two seasons.

After the Yoeli got tripled the first couple times down the floor, he seemed to stop working to get the ball in the post and the team stopped working to get it to him. Also, only one offensive RB So, some definite areas to improve but I think it was a great win and I'm very happy with it.

[Goatnapper'96]

My favorite ivy league student dynamic. Student arrives freshman year -> realizes they are in bottom part of the distribution -> reformulates life plan (the one carefully crafted for them by their parents) -> major in religion (usually NT studies) -> now s/he can spend next four years drunk -> downside, end up getting a job in economic consulting.

Ivy League is not the only place one's future plans are significantly altered when one discovers they are not nearly as capable as previously thought!

[Jeff Lebowski]

I was especially pleased that they were able to win through good defense and FT shooting when nothing else was working right. I believe we were 25-27 from FT; I'm hoping this is back to being a strength for us as it seemed like our FT shooting kept letting us down the last two seasons.

After the Yoeli got tripled the first couple times down the floor, he seemed to stop working to get the ball in the post and the team stopped working to get it to him. Also, only one offensive RB So, some definite areas to improve but I think it was a great win and I'm very happy with it.

That is cool you were able to attend. How far away is it? How long did it take you to get there?

[jay santos]

Missed the game. But based on what I have read and based on what I saw earlier in the season, it looks like we are materially better on defense. That is awesome. But that's also frustrating, thinking back to how bad we've sucked on D in recent years.

[Omaha 680]

That is cool you were able to attend. How far away is it? How long did it take you to get there?

Only about an hour train ride from Penn. The return schedule train schedule was not helpful; hourly service with a train leaving at 9:05 right before the game ended. So that extra hour combined with getting back to the city after express subway service ended got me home after midnight. But it was worth it.

I haven't been able to make a WCC road game, so this was my first experience with BYU in a "high school" gym.

[tooblue]

1. Lack of production at the five will be the death knell against better teams. It almost cost them last night. They desperately need rebounding help: maybe a three-headed monster in the form of Worthington, Shaw and Andrus going forward (assuming both Shaw and Andrus can get healthy) will do the trick? I’d like to say I’m still buying Dastrup, but … I’m just not sure what is going on with him.
2. Dalton Nixon is the MVP of this team, but he will not be able to do what they are asking him to do for an entire season.
3. Until the five position gets sorted out, Childs is going to be double, if not triple teamed all season, and we will see many more disappointing games from him like we saw last night.
4. I reiterate what I said last season: Bryant is the best player on this team.
5. Haws can’t guard a garden gnome and would likely foul out trying. That being said, he is making strides, especially effort wise. He has matured this season and seems to understand better where to pick his spots. After sitting for 7 or 8 minutes—which is notable for the fact, during the most important stretch of the second half, not a single Lone Peak 3 super star was on the floor—when he came in the game he was clutch. BYU doesn’t win without his offensive aggressiveness, cold and coming off the bench. That was impressive.
6. Jashire got schooled at times by bigger, less talented players with better basketball IQ’s, and that’s frustrating, but not as frustrating as his seeming lack of confidence by not taking shots when he was open. There were bright spots in his game; moments where he attacked the rim and played good defense. I guess the inconsistency is to be expected.
7. Brown is what he is at this point, and it may be just as well to throw Bergersen out there for the same spot duty.

[tooblue]

1. Lack of production at the five will be the death knell against better teams. It almost cost them last night. They desperately need rebounding help: maybe a three-headed monster in the form of Worthington, Shaw and Andrus going forward (assuming both Shaw and Andrus can get healthy) will do the trick? I’d like to say I’m still buying Dastrup, but … I’m just not sure what is going on with him.
2. Dalton Nixon is the MVP of this team, but he will not be able to do what they are asking him to do for an entire season.
3. Until the five position gets sorted out, Childs is going to be double, if not triple teamed all season, and we will see many more disappointing games from him like we saw last night.
4. I reiterate what I said last season: Bryant is the best player on this team.
5. Haws can’t guard a garden gnome and would likely foul out trying. That being said, he is making strides, especially effort wise. He has matured this season and seems to understand better where to pick his spots. After sitting for 7 or 8 minutes—which is notable for the fact, during the most important stretch of the second half, not a single Lone Peak 3 super star was on the floor—when he came in the game he was clutch. BYU doesn’t win without his offensive aggressiveness, cold and coming off the bench. That was impressive.
6. Jashire got schooled at times by bigger, less talented players with better basketball IQ’s, and that’s frustrating, but not as frustrating as his seeming lack of confidence by not taking shots when he was open. There were bright spots in his game; moments where he attacked the rim and played good defense. I guess the inconsistency is to be expected.
7. Brown is what he is at this point, and it may be just as well to throw Bergersen out there for the same spot duty.

8. Seljas was there, hit a couple of shots, played defense, but as I have predicted he didn't change the complexion of the game. That doesn't mean he doesn't have the potential to do so. It will take a little time.

[Green Monstah]

Have you seen Jashire shoot? I think I'm okay with him not throwing up the rock.

[Omaha 680]

Have you seen Jashire shoot? I think I'm okay with him not throwing up the rock.

Someone needs to teach him how to set a screen this week. I think he had three fouls on screens last night.

[Topper]

Any predictions on UT Arlington?

This isn't the same team that torched BYU last March, but still.

This year's UT Mavericks barely defeated LMU at home.
http://www.espn.com/ncb/recap/_/gameId/400986903

[Pelado]

Any predictions on UT Arlington?

https://youtu.be/lSPNQ82Sq4E

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[tooblue]

Have you seen Jashire shoot? I think I'm okay with him not throwing up the rock.

He has hit some shots, but more importantly he has to be a threat of some kind from the outside if he is going to be effective for this team. At this point, there is no one else to fill his role, so he has to step up and take the shot.

Someone needs to teach him how to set a screen this week. I think he had three fouls on screens last night.

Yah, that obviously was a point of emphasis going into the game, which they called both ways.

[tooblue]

Is a worse than a third place finish that unthinkable:

https://twitter.com/drewjay/status/932763056882434048

[Pelado]

Is a worse than a third place finish that unthinkable:

https://twitter.com/drewjay/status/932763056882434048

Great.

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[LiveCoug]

So. This team is really not that impressive. Sigh.

[LiveCoug]

Losing to Niagara at that half. Being a BYU fan continues to be rough this year.

[old_gregg]

this team is dogshit