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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    I don't think your buddy has anything to compare it to.

    We have the little Roomba style vacuum on a hose that just wanders the pool all day. Keeps it plenty clean and only cost about $500.
    It's a Polaris and it's easy and relatively cheap. Ours runs for an hour every day and it keeps the pool spotless, even in the nooks and crannies. Plus, it gives our dog something to chase for an hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Lots of good stuff here. I apprecaite all the info.

    What about concrete vs. vinyl vs fiberglass? Any thoughts?
    Our pool is pebbletec, which I honestly don't know where it fits in your above criteria. MJ likes it more than me. It can be tough on skin after you've been in the pool for several hours, but pretty much anything will scrape you at that point. It also doens't show dirt, so it seems to always look nicer than smooth gunite pools. Our pool deck is also pebbletec, which I don't love since it's tough to walk on with barefeet. I'd prefer some textured pavers and will probably do that if we ever need to redo the pool. Our pool is also 12 years old and the pebbletec still looks great, so there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    It can be tough on skin after you've been in the pool for several hours, but pretty much anything will scrape you at that point.
    Along those same lines, I've never eaten all I could eat at an ALL-YOU-CAN-EAT Crab Legs Buffet. The skin on my hands gets water-logged far before my stomach gets full, and the hundreds of cuts from the crab shells start to make the experience too painful to be worthwhile after 5-6 hours.
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    Pools are great. That's all I got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Like I mentioned, I love our salt water pool. The salt water generator creates the chlorine, but it's not like chlorine pools. We never smell like chlorine after swimming and our eyes don't hurt, plus the water is much softer due to the salt content. The biggest drawback is that we can't really have metal furniture in the backyard.
    We had a salt water pool... the salt corroded everything including the stone around the pool. I finally converted it back to a chlorine pool and was much happier. No more cleaning the stupid salt cell in acid.

    The other thing I noticed was the salt chlorinator took a lot of power. I measured the amp draw and it was more than my pool cleaner motor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    We had a salt water pool... the salt corroded everything including the stone around the pool. I finally converted it back to a chlorine pool and was much happier. No more cleaning the stupid salt cell in acid.

    The other thing I noticed was the salt chlorinator took a lot of power. I measured the amp draw and it was more than my pool cleaner motor.
    Yeah, stone doesn't go well with salt water. Our pool is pebbletec but with concrete overhangs. Concrete is fine with salt and it's what most pools have. Our waterfall is stone but we only run it when we are swimming so there's no issue there.


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    So if you lived in St George, how important would you feel like a pool was? Absolutely critical? Still not worth the cost and maintenance?

    Do you guys hire someone to take care of your pool or do you do it yourself? and does anyone care to throw out a ballpark number on annual cost to maintain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    So if you lived in St George, how important would you feel like a pool was? Absolutely critical? Still not worth the cost and maintenance?

    Do you guys hire someone to take care of your pool or do you do it yourself? and does anyone care to throw out a ballpark number on annual cost to maintain?
    hoa. keeps the pool nice and minorities out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Our pool is pebbletec, which I honestly don't know where it fits in your above criteria. MJ likes it more than me. It can be tough on skin after you've been in the pool for several hours, but pretty much anything will scrape you at that point. It also doens't show dirt, so it seems to always look nicer than smooth gunite pools. Our pool deck is also pebbletec, which I don't love since it's tough to walk on with barefeet. I'd prefer some textured pavers and will probably do that if we ever need to redo the pool. Our pool is also 12 years old and the pebbletec still looks great, so there's that.
    Yeah, salt water pools and natural stone surround are not a good idea. If you go with salt water then I recommend that you use a synthetic stone surround.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    It's a Polaris and it's easy and relatively cheap. Ours runs for an hour every day and it keeps the pool spotless, even in the nooks and crannies. Plus, it gives our dog something to chase for an hour.
    Yeah, we had a polaris robot cleaner as well. It worked pretty good for the most part. Sometimes it would suck up its own tail or something stupid but other than that I liked it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    It's a Polaris and it's easy and relatively cheap. Ours runs for an hour every day and it keeps the pool spotless, even in the nooks and crannies. Plus, it gives our dog something to chase for an hour.
    Mines not a Polaris. It's something else and it runs whenever the pool pump is on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    So if you lived in St George, how important would you feel like a pool was? Absolutely critical? Still not worth the cost and maintenance?

    Do you guys hire someone to take care of your pool or do you do it yourself? and does anyone care to throw out a ballpark number on annual cost to maintain?
    I would get one.

    Also, I tried doing the maintenance myself but I sucked at it. We have a service now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    I would get one.

    Also, I tried doing the maintenance myself but I sucked at it. We have a service now.
    is that what you call the pool boy to make yourself feel better when he's servicing the pool, etc, while you're at work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Mines not a Polaris. It's something else and it runs whenever the pool pump is on.
    We have a separate pump that turns on and drives our Polaris. That way it only runs an hour or so everyday. Otherwise it just sits motionless on the bottom of the pool.

    I do all the pool maintenance. It's not hard but just takes time. I'd say I spend 30 mins a week on maintenance and every 3-4 months I have to clean the filters and the salt water chlorination thing. That takes around an hour. The chemicals are easy. MJ does the brushing weekly since she likes the arm workout


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    Quote Originally Posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    is that what you call the pool boy to make yourself feel better when he's servicing the pool, etc, while you're at work?
    First of all, he's a pool MAN, and second of all, he's incorporated.
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    Holy crap, pools are expensive. I'm ready to quit my job and move to southern Utah and start installing pools. There is clearly room for competition. I got a proposal on what I thought was a basic pool - rectangular, 18x36, 6 feet deep, hot tub in one corner of the shallow end and little wading area in the other on the same end. I did request an automatic cover, but that was about it.

    $63,100. WTF!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    Holy crap, pools are expensive. I'm ready to quit my job and move to southern Utah and start installing pools. There is clearly room for competition. I got a proposal on what I thought was a basic pool - rectangular, 18x36, 6 feet deep, hot tub in one corner of the shallow end and little wading area in the other on the same end. I did request an automatic cover, but that was about it.

    $63,100. WTF!!

    Relax, bro. A pool like that will add like 35k to your property value. It's a smart investment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    Holy crap, pools are expensive. I'm ready to quit my job and move to southern Utah and start installing pools. There is clearly room for competition. I got a proposal on what I thought was a basic pool - rectangular, 18x36, 6 feet deep, hot tub in one corner of the shallow end and little wading area in the other on the same end. I did request an automatic cover, but that was about it.

    $63,100. WTF!!
    That's similar to my pool, which we put in about a year ago. I think its closer to 18 x 40, and 8 ft. deep to 3 feet range, with a 12-person hot tub. No automatic cover though. I like to see my pool.

    If I were you, I'd look into doing an owner-build, which is what I did. Since you're in the construction-ish industry (right?), you'd probably have no problem working directly with the subs. Owner-build will probably save you 30-40%. Lots of the subs will give you a 10% cash discount as well.
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    In-floor cleaning systems : good or bad idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    In-floor cleaning systems : good or bad idea?
    I don't have one. I don't know if that they are more effective than the Roomba option, but they certainly cost a lot more. My little auto-cleaner does a good job. I do wish I had something like that in the spa, though. The robot doesn't go in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    I don't have one. I don't know if that they are more effective than the Roomba option, but they certainly cost a lot more. My little auto-cleaner does a good job. I do wish I had something like that in the spa, though. The robot doesn't go in there.
    My Polaris runs an hour a day and cleans the whole thing except our spa. I make the kids clean the spa each Saturday.

    I've never seen an in floor cleaning thing. Would probably be cool but crazy expensive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post

    I've never seen an in floor cleaning thing. Would probably be cool but crazy expensive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    About $2,600.
    Not too bad. A good Polaris will run you around $600 and you also have to have a separate pump, which can be more than $600. Nice thing about a Polaris is f there are mechanical issues, it's easy to swap a new one in.


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    I have an in-ground cleaning system. It works just so-so. There are always dead spots with those things and it will need regular brushing anyway. Not worth it, in my opinion. This year we actually bought a Polaris robot. It works really well. Takes a few minutes to set up and take down, but it does a much better job than our built in cleaner. Like falafel said, they don't go in the spa, so we have a quick brushing each week of the tile, the spa and usually the steps.

    And the cleaners can be really expensive to maintain and repair. Every 4-5 years one part (I can't remember what its called - it basically coordinates the flow between all of the jets) needs replaced. That's a cool grand right there. If the pop-ps need cleaned or replaced that can also get pretty pricey. The ones in the deep end usually require a guy with a scuba tank to remove and replace them.

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    My oldest brother had a pool put in his house that is swallow at both ends and gets maybe 4' deep in the middle, I think he called it a sport pool. At first I thought he was an idiot, after a decade or more of him having it and seeing the use he gets from it I don't think I'd deal with a deep end and diving board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    My oldest brother had a pool put in his house that is swallow at both ends and gets maybe 4' deep in the middle, I think he called it a sport pool. At first I thought he was an idiot, after a decade or more of him having it and seeing the use he gets from it I don't think I'd deal with a deep end and diving board.
    4' is the deepest it gets? Who enjoys wading in water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    4' is the deepest it gets? Who enjoys wading in water?
    Maybe it is deeper than that. It has basketball hoops at both ends and a volleyball net possibility in the middle. I thought it was an awful idea at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    Maybe it is deeper than that. It has basketball hoops at both ends and a volleyball net possibility in the middle. I thought it was an awful idea at the time.
    I saw a bunch of those when I was visiting Arizona several years back. I think they called them "play pools".

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