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    I used to take mine to car wash and power wash the heck out of them. First thing to do... now that you're going to clean them yourself, is to cut the bands on them so you can open them up and get the spray nozzle in there and get as much gunk out as you can. The reason for the car wash is to leave the debris at the car wash and not my property. I used to go through about ten cleanings with each filet before I'd give up and buy a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    How often do you clean yours? They told me to clean every 6 months but I think I might need to do it more often.
    Every three months, usually. I tend to stretch it out a bit in the offseason. I really just watch the pressure gauge and when it gets above a certain point I clean them out. It used to be a big pain but I learned a couple techniques to get the cover back on and bought a couple tools to help with it all. Easy peasy now.
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    Looks great, DH.

    Will you come and give me a hot-weather lawn tutorial? My lawn needs some help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    Looks great, DH.

    Will you come and give me a hot-weather lawn tutorial? My lawn needs some help.
    I can tell you exactly how to get a lawn like DH's: have it re-sodded every year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    I can tell you exactly how to get a lawn like DH's: have it re-sodded every year.
    That might work, but it’s not my method.
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    Default Pools? jelly bean or rectangle?

    After the stone issue, we decided to scrap the whole pool idea and filled it in this morning.



    Just kidding. Sports court, corner pocket.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Every three months, usually. I tend to stretch it out a bit in the offseason. I really just watch the pressure gauge and when it gets above a certain point I clean them out. It used to be a big pain but I learned a couple techniques to get the cover back on and bought a couple tools to help with it all. Easy peasy now.
    Any tips for the band clamp? That thing is a bitch to get back on and is always a two person job at our house. I use my waterfalls as a guide for when it's time to clean the cartridges. When they can't push a decent looking fall at pump speed 2 it's time to clean. Seems to be about 6 weeks in the busy season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBlue View Post
    Any tips for the band clamp? That thing is a bitch to get back on and is always a two person job at our house. I use my waterfalls as a guide for when it's time to clean the cartridges. When they can't push a decent looking fall at pump speed 2 it's time to clean. Seems to be about 6 weeks in the busy season.
    Yes, I used to struggle with that but now it’s easy. Once I have the top cover on, I place the middle section (mine has three metal sections) along the back and hit it on with a rubber mallet. It’ll go on enough to stay on while I do the same thing with the other sections...making sure first to put the bolt into the hole thingy first. Then I usually have enough play on the bolt to hand stew it on with the washers and spring.

    I use an impact driver and bolt screwer on thingy to get t all tightened up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Yes, I used to struggle with that but now it’s easy. Once I have the top cover on, I place the middle section (mine has three metal sections) along the back and hit it on with a rubber mallet. It’ll go on enough to stay on while I do the same thing with the other sections...making sure first to put the bolt into the hole thingy first. Then I usually have enough play on the bolt to hand stew it on with the washers and spring.

    I use an impact driver and bolt screwer on thingy to get t all tightened up.
    Ok, that's what I do except that I've never been able to get that middle section to stay so I hold it with my leg while I do the other two pieces. I have to hold it while a second person does the bolt. Maybe I need to hit it a little harder.

    So, this one time, at band clamp... Ask me about the first time I ever did the cartridges and then tried to put the top and clamp back on while shirtless and wearing swim trunks. Hint: involves microscopic fiberglass shards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBlue View Post
    Ok, that's what I do except that I've never been able to get that middle section to stay so I hold it with my leg while I do the other two pieces. I have to hold it while a second person does the bolt. Maybe I need to hit it a little harder.

    So, this one time, at band clamp... Ask me about the first time I ever did the cartridges and then tried to put the top and clamp back on while shirtless and wearing swim trunks. Hint: involves microscopic fiberglass shards.
    I made this mistake once, only luckily it was a short sleeved shirt so only my arms hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
    After the stone issue, we decided to scrap the whole pool idea and filled it in this morning.



    Just kidding. Sports court, corner pocket.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
    After the stone issue, we decided to scrap the whole pool idea and filled it in this morning.



    Just kidding. Sports court, corner pocket.


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    Default Pools? jelly bean or rectangle?

    So here’s a fun story. Remember the pool issue with the wall stone?! Well, everyone recognized that it was indeed the wrong stone. Wrong manufacture and everything. The supplier was never really clear on what the mix up was to our pool guy but told him that it was their fault and they’d refund his $2,400 and replace it with the correct stuff. They told him that they wouldn’t compensate him for the labor. I think that I previously mentioned that he told us that if it was “good enough,” that he’d give us a price break. But, given what she saw on display at the suppliers, my wife wanted the lighter color and different geometric design of the stone she originally picked out.

    Arizona Tile supposedly put a rush order in for the correct stuff and gave us a turn around of about three weeks. Waiting and waiting. Our contractor had put several calls into Arizona Tile seeking an update, without any helpful information. So my wife took matters into her own hands, found contact info for the manufacturer and eventually tracked down the Western rep to get to the bottom of what the hell was going on.

    Turns out, he had never been contacted by Arizona Tile, in fact, despite being their only supplier in Las Vegas, this manufacturer had never received an order from this supplier. After some pushing, my wife discovered that they had the stone, more than enough in stock, would sell to her directly and could have it delivered to our house within a week. Sold.

    Not sure what the hell was going on with Arizona Tile in that they hadn’t even placed the order after a month and several follow up calls. My guess is that they used an “equivalent” product that either have them some sort of kick back or cost them less while charging us for the original. Whatever the reason, the poor behavior made zero sense. Glad to have all of that behind us.

    The correct stone showed up on Friday and needless to say, we’re super happy that we stuck to our guns. Here’s a photo of the wrong stone and the right stone.



    LOL. I’d point out which is which, but it hardly matters after all the effort. My wife is super embarrassed. Give it some fade, lighting or some large conspiracy, the color she remembers seeing on display (she picked it out without me) just didn’t match up what showed up. She was very apologetic to the contractor and made sure the subs that showed up (again) this morning had plenty of cold drinks and fresh baked goods.

    Here’s where we are tonight. Spa tile is in. Stone is up. First phase of concrete is dry. Pebble Tech goes in later this week. Leaving town for Bear Lake family reunion this weekend. Whomp whomp.








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    Backyard achievement #2: Unlocked.

    Finally. Plenty of finishing touches that still need to happen, but there’s water and kids in the pool and that’s enough for me to call this chapter finished. I really like the way it turned out and owe my wife a ton for taking care of most of the details and essentially managing the whole project. She sure does a great job of making sure thing get done and making sure they’re done right.

    Step 1 was the basketball court. Step 2 was the pool and concrete. Step 3 is the pergola which is supposed to go in today. Step 4 will be the turf between the pool and basketball court. Step 5 will be landscaping the perimeter. And step 6 will be installing the outdoor kitchen area.

    Speaking of turf, we’re sort of considering a subsurface emitter system. Any chance anyone here has gone that route? It’s a nice theory but I’m not quite sold on the reality. Anyway, here are a few pictures.





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    Looks great, DS. I love the look of pebbletec, but I hate the feel on my baby-soft feet.
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    how do people afford this? this would cost $6mm where i live
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    how do people afford this? this would cost $6mm where i live
    Don't you live in the bay area? Before we moved to our current home we considered expanding and improving our old one. We got a bid for a new pool with integrated hot tub and water feature and decking and it was going to cost about $350,000-450,000, depending on a few features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuthole View Post
    Looks great, DS. I love the look of pebbletec, but I hate the feel on my baby-soft feet.

    Pebbletec has gotten way better over the years, It used to totally shred my feet, but its super comfortable now.

    Backyard looks awesome, DS. What is going to happen to those 4" spacer lines in the concrete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Don't you live in the bay area? Before we moved to our current home we considered expanding and improving our old one. We got a bid for a new pool with integrated hot tub and water feature and decking and it was going to cost about $350,000-450,000, depending on a few features.
    Wait, Wut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoose View Post
    Wait, Wut?
    Well, we thought it was a lot. It would have been a very nice pool.


    Btw Dwight, that looks great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoose View Post
    Backyard looks awesome, DS. What is going to happen to those 4" spacer lines in the concrete?
    My guess: kiddie fence. Actually, as I take a closer look, it's probably a drain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Don't you live in the bay area? Before we moved to our current home we considered expanding and improving our old one. We got a bid for a new pool with integrated hot tub and water feature and decking and it was going to cost about $350,000-450,000, depending on a few features.
    That's crazy. Our pool/spa/decking with "water features" was ~ $50k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    That's crazy. Our pool/spa/decking with "water features" was ~ $50k.
    Really? No way you can get a pool and deck and feature for 50k here. Not even a starter. Maybe something above ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Really? No way you can get a pool and deck and feature for 50k here. Not even a starter. Maybe something above ground.
    We did a hybrid owner-build, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    We did a hybrid owner-build, but still.
    Some friends of ours need to have their pool replastered. The first bid they got was for just over 50k.
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    Wow! That looks fantastic. Well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    That's crazy. Our pool/spa/decking with "water features" was ~ $50k.
    Bay Area prices are insane, but just a couple of hours north you can get the same package for probably a quarter to a third of what creekster was quoted. Our pool/spa/waterfall was already here when we moved in, but probably cost $150k max. And its a pretty nice set up.

    Crazy side note, when we bought the place, the appraisal only credited the property something insane like $35k for all of the landscaping in the front and back yards, including the pool. The previous owner was a professional landscaper and probably put $300k worth into it over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoose View Post
    Bay Area prices are insane, but just a couple of hours north you can get the same package for probably a quarter to a third of what creekster was quoted. Our pool/spa/waterfall was already here when we moved in, but probably cost $150k max. And its a pretty nice set up.

    Crazy side note, when we bought the place, the appraisal only credited the property something insane like $35k for all of the landscaping in the front and back yards, including the pool. The previous owner was a professional landscaper and probably put $300k worth into it over the years.
    Its got to be worth it for a crew from Redding to spend a week down in the Bay Area and do a couple of pools, no? I can't believe there hasn't been someone to undercut the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoose View Post
    Crazy side note, when we bought the place, the appraisal only credited the property something insane like $35k for all of the landscaping in the front and back yards, including the pool. The previous owner was a professional landscaper and probably put $300k worth into it over the years.
    Yep. Landscaping and pools are, generally speaking, a terrible financial investment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Its got to be worth it for a crew from Redding to spend a week down in the Bay Area and do a couple of pools, no? I can't believe there hasn't been someone to undercut the market.
    It would totally be worth it. They're pretty busy as it is up here, I wonder if it is just a labor shortage that keeps them from doing it.

    My office manager's husband is a commercial plumber. He commutes to San Francisco early every Monday morning and works in the Bay for 4 days before returning home Thursday night. Makes close to triple in those 4 days what he would make here in 5 days. And not to mention the cost to his employer down there to rent an apartment for him and another guy year round.

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