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    I'm not a serious gung-ho road biker (I like mtn biking a lot more), but want to do lotoja this year. I have an older specialized (aluminum) and want to upgrade to a fully carbon bike. I found a kestral that seems like a good deal:
    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...egra.htm#specs
    It is fully carbon except the wheel set which I am okay with.

    It's only 2 1/2 lbs lighter than my old bike. While it's not crazy expensive, $1400, is it worth the lighter weight for a longer ride? it's got ultegra comps, so it's seems to be a pretty good bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bean View Post
    I'm not a serious gung-ho road biker (I like mtn biking a lot more), but want to do lotoja this year. I have an older specialized (aluminum) and want to upgrade to a fully carbon bike. I found a kestral that seems like a good deal:
    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...egra.htm#specs
    It is fully carbon except the wheel set which I am okay with.

    It's only 2 1/2 lbs lighter than my old bike. While it's not crazy expensive, $1400, is it worth the lighter weight for a longer ride? it's got ultegra comps, so it's seems to be a pretty good bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelado View Post
    What makes you want to do lotoja?
    Because it is there. And I'm not getting any younger.

    I am not a total novice; I have done centuries and enjoy races for the challenge of training and finishing, then improving.

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    I'm not familiar with that particular wheelset, but 2 1/2 pounds is quite a bit of weight to save for just the bike. I think you would certainly notice the difference on an endurance ride with a fair amount of climbing like LOTOJA. Of course, as my wife likes to remind me, 2 1/2 pounds is nothing compared to the extra 15-20 pounds that I am carrying around on my waistline.

    Creekster is a big proponent of rotational acceleration, and will tell you one of the biggest upgrades you can make to a road bike is a lighter and better wheelset. i can't disagree with him there.

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    BG is right. 2.5 lbs is a lot. But I have never been that excited about kestrels. They are good frames, just not my thing.

    One problem with an aluminum frame is that it might be a harsh ride for such a long distance. I don't know which frame set you currently have but if it is a criterium or similarly aggressive geometry you may not be very happy with it after 200 miles.

    That said you will need to be careful with the kestrel's geometry as it could also be set up for a Tri or a criterium and as a result may not be well-suited for a long distance ride . I am a guy that keeps bikes a long time, however and my typical ride is about 15 years old so I'm probably not the best one to ask. IMO if you have a frame that fits you well and with which you're comfortable I would be more likely to want to get a new wheelset than a new frame.

    But you should pay close attention to what BG, RC Viking and archaea tell you as they all ride a lot and have either done lotoja or something like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    BG is right. 2.5 lbs is a lot. But I have never been that excited about kestrels. They are good frames, just not my thing.

    One problem with an aluminum frame is that it might be a harsh ride for such a long distance. I don't know which frame set you currently have but if it is a criterium or similarly aggressive geometry you may not be very happy with it after 200 miles.

    That said you will need to be careful with the kestrel's geometry as it could also be set up for a Tri or a criterium and as a result may not be well-suited for a long distance ride . I am a guy that keeps bikes a long time, however and my typical ride is about 15 years old so I'm probably not the best one to ask. IMO if you have a frame that fits you well and with which you're comfortable I would be more likely to want to get a new wheelset than a new frame.

    But you should pay close attention to what BG, RC Viking and archaea tell you as they all ride a lot and have either done lotoja or something like it.
    Thanks for the info. I turn 40 this year, and my current bike (specialized Allez) does put a crick in the neck/upper-back. Everyone says that gets better with time in the saddle, but just always hurts in my case. I think I need a bike that keeps me a bit more up-right at the expense of being aerodynamic. I'm not in these things to win them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bean View Post
    Thanks for the info. I turn 40 this year, and my current bike (specialized Allez) does put a crick in the neck/upper-back. Everyone says that gets better with time in the saddle, but just always hurts in my case. I think I need a bike that keeps me a bit more up-right at the expense of being aerodynamic. I'm not in these things to win them.
    Just off the top it sounds like your top tube may be too long. If so, a new frame is in order before you do lotoja.
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    If anyone on this thread cares (or will even notice this post), I finished Lotoja at 11 hours 45 minutes moving time (12:14 total). It was pretty cool, but doubt I will ever do it again! On to new challenges like eating doughnuts and watching tv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bean View Post
    If anyone on this thread cares (or will even notice this post), I finished Lotoja at 11 hours 45 minutes moving time (12:14 total). It was pretty cool, but doubt I will ever do it again! On to new challenges like eating doughnuts and watching tv.
    When I was a scout leader I used to take the boys to Krispy Kreme and have a donut eating contest. I think most one kid ever ate was around a dozen. They always talked tough, but most of them would quit around 4-5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bean View Post
    If anyone on this thread cares (or will even notice this post), I finished Lotoja at 11 hours 45 minutes moving time (12:14 total). It was pretty cool, but doubt I will ever do it again! On to new challenges like eating doughnuts and watching tv.
    What was your train-up like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Diddley View Post
    What was your train-up like?
    I put in about 1700 miles between April and September, pretty lax. Few times a week, 20 miles most days with a few centuries mixed in on weekends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    When I was a scout leader I used to take the boys to Krispy Kreme and have a donut eating contest. I think most one kid ever ate was around a dozen. They always talked tough, but most of them would quit around 4-5.
    that's funny. i had the same experience with my YM. a bunch of HS football players and every time i took them for eating contests or challenges they pretty much always disappoint. big talkers though.
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    Me bean: very impressive. Nice ride.


    As to doughnuts, I ate 8 krisoy kremes at one sitting once and I felt like crap for about two days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Me bean: very impressive. Nice ride.


    As to doughnuts, I ate 8 krisoy kremes at one sitting once and I felt like crap for about two days.
    The kid that ate a dozen got quite sick. I was worried he was going to barf in my car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    Me bean: very impressive. Nice ride.


    As to doughnuts, I ate 8 krisoy kremes at one sitting once and I felt like crap for about two days.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    The kid that ate a dozen got quite sick. I was worried he was going to barf in my car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bean View Post
    If anyone on this thread cares (or will even notice this post), I finished Lotoja at 11 hours 45 minutes moving time (12:14 total). It was pretty cool, but doubt I will ever do it again! On to new challenges like eating doughnuts and watching tv.
    Congratulations on finishing. i need something is front of me or I'm afraid I'm headed down that same road or doughnuts and TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Diddley View Post
    Lightweights.
    I know this is a light hearted jab, but I am curious: have you ever actually eaten 8 or more krispy kremes in a row? Not just any doighnut but the KK gl;azed? It is like an enormous mopuind of fat amnd sugar is dropped in youir stomach. I have a prodgious appetite and can pack away a lot of food, but that was just too much for even me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    I know this is a light hearted jab, but I am curious: have you ever actually eaten 8 or more krispy kremes in a row? Not just any doighnut but the KK gl;azed? It is like an enormous mopuind of fat amnd sugar is dropped in youir stomach. I have a prodgious appetite and can pack away a lot of food, but that was just too much for even me.
    We did a fundraiser for a non-profit once at Krispy Kreme.

    The deal was, we got to be there at the store and help fill the boxes of glazed donuts, and our organization received a portion of sales for the 2 hours we were there.

    They have that conveyer belt of donuts coming off the fryer and through the glaze. If you don't take the donuts off, they drop into a big garbage can at the end. Any donuts that are stuck together or don't have full glaze coverage are let to pass. While we were there, we were told we could eat as many glazed donuts as we wanted to.

    Over the course of 2 hours, I know I ate a dozen. One of my co-workers was counting and harassing me about it. Didn't sleep too great that night - but those suckers taste so good coming hot off the the conveyer belt I just couldn't stop myself. I was quite a bit younger and lacked all kinds of self control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bean View Post
    If anyone on this thread cares (or will even notice this post), I finished Lotoja at 11 hours 45 minutes moving time (12:14 total). It was pretty cool, but doubt I will ever do it again! On to new challenges like eating doughnuts and watching tv.
    Why not bike and eat doughnuts at the same time? Looks like you can easily fit a dozen in the basket:

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    haha! nice find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    I know this is a light hearted jab, but I am curious: have you ever actually eaten 8 or more krispy kremes in a row? Not just any doighnut but the KK gl;azed? It is like an enormous mopuind of fat amnd sugar is dropped in youir stomach. I have a prodgious appetite and can pack away a lot of food, but that was just too much for even me.
    Pretty sure I have. I remember when KK opened up in Orem and having a binge. So not unlike the Coke challenge, I'll be sure to run a test and report back.

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    OK, I concede. I am obviously a doughnut lightweight.
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