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    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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    Looking forward to seeing how the WR corps steps up this year after catching so many balls.

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    Whew. Thank goodness you're okay.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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    Coaches are very high on Khyiris Tonga. I've heard NFL first rounder and Star Lotuleilei multiple times. Admissions were tough but this kid belongs at BYU and the athletic department made it happen.

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    As a lifelong fat kid, I feel adequately qualified to state that Tanner Mangum is not adding only muscle mass.

    Dude is definitely chunking up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Monstah View Post
    As a lifelong fat kid, I feel adequately qualified to state that Tanner Mangum is not adding only muscle mass.

    Dude is definitely chunking up.
    Last chubby BYU QB? Walsh? I'd take 2 John Walsh years out of Mangum, that would be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    Last chubby BYU QB? Walsh? I'd take 2 John Walsh years out of Mangum, that would be fun.
    Was Engeman chunky or just slow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    Was Engeman chunky or just slow?
    I'd take a 2002 BE, he just had no options around him.
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    I'm hearing that Tanner throws the option routes better than Taysome so Hifo is likely to have a good year.

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    I've rewatched several of last year's games, and my appreciation for Detmer has increased slightly, while my appreciation for Taysom the passer hit the shits. He wasn't always that bad, though. Thinking back to the Houston game in 13 (I think), dude was airing it out. First half of Nebraska, he looked sharp. Last season, I think I under-appreciated the extent to which the lis franc injury affected his accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDog View Post
    I'm hearing that Tanner throws the option routes better than Taysome so Hifo is likely to have a good year.
    What are your thoughts on Cahoon? I've been pretty unimpressed with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    Was Engeman chunky or just slow?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    What are your thoughts on Cahoon? I've been pretty unimpressed with him.
    What are your thoughts on Cahoon? Why are you unimpressed with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    What are your thoughts on Cahoon? Why are you unimpressed with him?
    The routes seemed poorer and they didn't fight as hard for separation. I'll be curious to see how the wideouts do this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    The routes seemed poorer and they didn't fight as hard for separation. I'll be curious to see how the wideouts do this year.
    I agree. I don't see any improvement with Cahoon. He was a very reliable receiver when here, but while he coached I've not seen any progression by the receivers.
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    When Cahoon came the first time I saw a noticeable improvement. Very noticeable. Could be the change of regime this time didn't favor our WR's habits- or they could have been sluggish b/c Lavar Ball was very tight w the WRs and they were bummed to lose that leader. I have faith that we'll get back to where we need to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    The routes seemed poorer and they didn't fight as hard for separation. I'll be curious to see how the wideouts do this year.
    I assumed the WRs regressed so much because they knew they weren't getting the ball on time or on target, so the effort started to match the passes they were getting. Cahoon deserves a chance to be judged based on how his players play when the QB has the ability to throw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    I assumed the WRs regressed so much because they knew they weren't getting the ball on time or on target, so the effort started to match the passes they were getting. Cahoon deserves a chance to be judged based on how his players play when the QB has the ability to throw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    I assumed the WRs regressed so much because they knew they weren't getting the ball on time or on target, so the effort started to match the passes they were getting. Cahoon deserves a chance to be judged based on how his players play when the QB has the ability to throw.
    That's fair. Let's see how this season goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    I assumed the WRs regressed so much because they knew they weren't getting the ball on time or on target, so the effort started to match the passes they were getting. Cahoon deserves a chance to be judged based on how his players play when the QB has the ability to throw.
    That is a fair assessment but I don't remember any improvement during his first stint either. Obviously others have different recollection. It might be a question of not being a great teacher even though he was able to be a competent receiver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    When Cahoon came the first time I saw a noticeable improvement. Very noticeable. Could be the change of regime this time didn't favor our WR's habits- or they could have been sluggish b/c Lavar Ball was very tight w the WRs and they were bummed to lose that leader. I have faith that we'll get back to where we need to be.
    I saw him at the airport last week and said the exact same thing. He could probably pass as a cousin or relative of Lavar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    I assumed the WRs regressed so much because they knew they weren't getting the ball on time or on target, so the effort started to match the passes they were getting. Cahoon deserves a chance to be judged based on how his players play when the QB has the ability to throw.
    The deep ball was just horrific, but the shorter routes often came in hot and off-target. Cost us the WV and Utah games.
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    Anyone know the status of Joe Brown (Miami OL transfer)?
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    CFN predicts we finish 29 (if the rankings went to 29) in the final Playoff Rankings this year. 10-3 year, a big win over Wisconsin, but losing to Utah again. I would be pretty pleased with a 10-3 year if one of the losses wasn't Utah.

    Preseason Predicted Regular Season Record: 10-3
    The final regular season ranking will be based on two wins – Wisconsin and Boise State. The Cougars will lose to Mississippi State, LSU and Utah, and the rest of the wins will add up to fat load of nothing – BYU won’t beat a bowl-bound team over the last six games – but beating the loaded Badgers and the eventual Mountain West champ will put them around the final regular season top 30.
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    BYU won’t beat a bowl-bound team over the last six games
    The last six games, according to their rankings...

    128: San Jose St. Predicted record 1-11
    123: UMass. Predicted record 2-10
    117: Fresno St. Predicted record 4-18
    106: East Carolina. Predicted record 3-9
    102: Hawaii. Predicted record 4-8
    95: UNLV. Predicted record 5-7

    And - as an added bonus - while not one of the last 6 games. BYU faces USU earlier in the season. Ranked at 110 with a predicted record of 4-8.

    So - 7 of BYU's games are against teams that are ranked 95th or worse nationally by this publication? And that doesn't include an 8th game against Big Sky opponent Portland State? Yeah - getting 10 wins - or only 2 wins against teams that aren't among the worst in the country - doesn't seem like that good of a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    The last six games, according to their rankings...

    128: San Jose St. Predicted record 1-11
    123: UMass. Predicted record 2-10
    117: Fresno St. Predicted record 4-18
    106: East Carolina. Predicted record 3-9
    102: Hawaii. Predicted record 4-8
    95: UNLV. Predicted record 5-7

    And - as an added bonus - while not one of the last 6 games. BYU faces USU earlier in the season. Ranked at 110 with a predicted record of 4-8.

    So - 7 of BYU's games are against teams that are ranked 95th or worse nationally by this publication? And that doesn't include an 8th game against Big Sky opponent Portland State? Yeah - getting 10 wins - or only 2 wins against teams that aren't among the worst in the country - doesn't seem like that good of a season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    The last six games, according to their rankings...

    128: San Jose St. Predicted record 1-11
    123: UMass. Predicted record 2-10
    117: Fresno St. Predicted record 4-18
    106: East Carolina. Predicted record 3-9
    102: Hawaii. Predicted record 4-8
    95: UNLV. Predicted record 5-7

    And - as an added bonus - while not one of the last 6 games. BYU faces USU earlier in the season. Ranked at 110 with a predicted record of 4-8.

    So - 7 of BYU's games are against teams that are ranked 95th or worse nationally by this publication? And that doesn't include an 8th game against Big Sky opponent Portland State? Yeah - getting 10 wins - or only 2 wins against teams that aren't among the worst in the country - doesn't seem like that good of a season.
    Yeah I didn't realize just how bad the bulk of the schedule is until you spelled it out. The good news is We can get some national attention fairly easily with a couple big wins. They have us finishing ahead of Mississippi State and Utah even though they expect us to lose to them. Beat LSU and Wisconsin and anything is possible in spite of the terrible back end of the schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    Yeah I didn't realize just how bad the bulk of the schedule is until you spelled it out. The good news is We can get some national attention fairly easily with a couple big wins. They have us finishing ahead of Mississippi State and Utah even though they expect us to lose to them. Beat LSU and Wisconsin and anything is possible in spite of the terrible back end of the schedule.
    What do you mean by anything? The back end is so bad that BYU would likely fall each week in the CFP poll due to the competition being played while other opponents are playing ranked in conference teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    What do you mean by anything? The back end is so bad that BYU would likely fall each week in the CFP poll due to the competition being played while other opponents are playing ranked in conference teams.
    Go undefeated and BYU goes to a NY6 bowl. Lose one game and we go to some crappy bow. It's basically just like every other season as an independent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    What do you mean by anything? The back end is so bad that BYU would likely fall each week in the CFP poll due to the competition being played while other opponents are playing ranked in conference teams.
    Anything, bro. Go undefeated and the PAC 12 would invite us to join. ANYTHING!

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