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Originally posted by BlueK View PostAccording to financial records Michael Cohen just provided Congress last week, in 2012 Trump overvalued a property for the purpose of getting a loan from Deutsche Bank. He said it was worth $291 million, when the latest local tax appraisal at the time said it was worth $18 million. Then in 2016 when running for president, on his financial disclosure forms he listed it at $25 million. One of these numbers is not like the others...
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostHow is that even relevant? Knowingly providing false info on a loan app is illegal even if you don't get the loan.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostAccording to financial records Michael Cohen just provided Congress last week, in 2012 Trump overvalued a property for the purpose of getting a loan from Deutsche Bank. He said it was worth $291 million, when the latest local tax appraisal at the time said it was worth $18 million. Then in 2016 when running for president, on his financial disclosure forms he listed it at $25 million. One of these numbers is not like the others...
But of course, $291M to $18M is a pretty wide discrepancy.... Maybe $18M was the land only.Last edited by falafel; 03-06-2019, 03:58 PM.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by wapiti View PostThe problem is this one doesn't pass the smell test. Real estate values on loan applications are heavily scrutinized. A $20MM properly listed at $291MM? If Trump was really pulling a fast one on Deutsche Bank, why didn't they go after him for it? Yet here you are trumpeting it as evidence Trump is a criminal. To me, that was evidence that Cohen is a blowhard.
Also, Deutsche Bank has their own legal problems as the feds have gone after them hard in recent years for their money laundering activities. Maybe they didn't think it was worth it to get mixed up in the US legal system over it.Last edited by BlueK; 03-06-2019, 04:00 PM.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostSo you're saying you think it's more likely Cohen falsified the records he presented to Congress? It's just funny that Trump is involved but it's someone else who is more likely to be the blowhard.
Also, Deutsche Bank has their own legal problems as the feds have gone after them hard in recent years for their money laundering activities. Maybe they didn't think it was worth it to get mixed up in the US legal system over it.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostAccording to financial records Michael Cohen just provided Congress last week, in 2012 Trump overvalued a property for the purpose of getting a loan from Deutsche Bank. He said it was worth $291 million, when the latest local tax appraisal at the time said it was worth $18 million. Then in 2016 when running for president, on his financial disclosure forms he listed it at $25 million. One of these numbers is not like the others...Originally posted by wapiti View PostThe problem is this one doesn't pass the smell test. Real estate values on loan applications are heavily scrutinized. A $20MM properly listed at $291MM? If Trump was really pulling a fast one on Deutsche Bank, why didn't they go after him for it? Yet here you are trumpeting it as evidence Trump is a criminal. To me, that was evidence that Cohen is a blowhard."I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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Originally posted by wapiti View PostIt's a bizarre claim by a blowhard about a blowhard that may or may not have been a crime but it ultimately had no victim and is probably past the statute of limitations. Whatever. If you want to say Trump is a criminal, fine. But find something better to back it up.Originally posted by Pelado View PostIf Deutsche Bank didn't extend credit to him, then why would "they" have gone after him for the purported fraud? Not sure who you mean by "they". Deutsche didn't lose anything on the deal, so Deutsche doesn't really benefit from reporting it and/or assisting in the prosecution.You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Trump exaggerating about the size of something... Shocking"The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."
"They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."
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How is Trump any less of a criminal than the guy from the Fyre Festival who is sitting in jail right now? Some of you with the Cheeto breath are killing me in here..."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View PostTwo apologists for Putin. Not sure how can live with yourselves."I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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Originally posted by Pelado View PostDidn't realize I was covering for Putin.You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View PostTrump/Putin apologists rarely do. BlueK or frank will connect the dots for you... don't you worry."I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
- Goatnapper'96
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Originally posted by Pelado View PostI wasn't worried.You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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