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  • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
    The one? It's part of a massive ongoing investigation that already has a bunch of people indicted. It's just getting progressively less logical for folks like you to repeat Kremlin/altright bullshit.

    Like the Hillary Clinton funneling money nonsense. Putin accused Bill Browder of helping her do that. Do you know who that is?

    He's a guy Putin has constantly made up allegations about, to the point that countries are starting to ignore Russian Interpol requests to detain the guy.

    Who is Bill Browder? Putin asks for Trump's help in questioning billionaire for 'illegal activities' in Russia



    https://www.newsweek.com/american-bi...-press-1026960

    Stop believing Russian bullshit.
    Screw the coke snorting, women chasing, tax dodging, commie, hedge fund manager... we should just give him to Putin on stick for the 12 russian hackers. The dude isn't even an american (anymore).
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • "Rather than speculating about what we don’t know about Trump and Russia, it’s worth stepping back to see how much we do know.

      We know that Russia orchestrated a massive theft of information from the Democratic Party and the Clinton campaign, and used that information to help Donald Trump win the election.

      We know that Trump publicly asked Russia to do exactly what it did — to hack Clinton’s emails — and we know that Trump repeatedly praised Vladimir Putin, at considerable political cost, in the aftermath. We know that Trump associates, like Roger Stone, appeared to have advance warning of the release of the hacked emails.

      We know that the willingness to cooperate with the Russians wasn’t an idiosyncratic musing of Trump’s, but suffused the top ranks of his campaign: Trump’s inner circle — including Manafort, Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump Jr. — eagerly took a meeting with Russian operatives promising dirt on Clinton. And we know Trump himself dictated the statement lying about the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting.

      We know, from Trump’s own testimony, that he fired the director of the FBI to end his investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 election. We know that Trump has wanted to fire both his attorney general and his deputy attorney general because he feels they’ve failed to protect him from this investigation. Tellingly, the Trump administration has moved from arguing that the president did not obstruct justice to arguing that by definition, the president cannot obstruct justice.

      We know in that in 2008, Donald Trump Jr. said of the Trump organization, “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.” We know that in 2014, Eric Trump added, “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.” We know that from 2003 to 2017, “buyers connected to Russia or former Soviet republics made 86 all-cash sales — totaling nearly $109 million — at 10 Trump-branded properties in South Florida and New York City.”

      We know that Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager, had ties to the Kremlin and was deeply in debt to Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch closely connected to Putin. We know Manafort was in communication with Deripaska’s team during the election, and that he asked, of his powerful position in Trump’s campaign, “How do we use [it] to get whole?”


      We know that Russia’s efforts to help Trump went far beyond hacked emails — they included social media campaigns to inflame racial divisions on his behalf, armies of bots meant to elevate news stories helping him and hurting Clinton, and even efforts to compromise state voting machines.

      We know that the Trump campaign interfered in the Republican National Committee’s drafting of its platform to soften the language on Russia and Ukraine. We know that Kushner sought a secret communications channel with Russians so the US government couldn’t hear their negotiations. We know that Trump has personally fought both his administration and his party to stop sanctions punishing Russia for electoral interference.

      We know that there is no single issue that has bedeviled the Trump administration as long or as much as Trump’s connections to Russia. We know that since the election, Trump has bucked both his party and decades of American foreign policy to try to protect Russia from sanctions, pull American support back from both NATO and the European Union, and forge a closer personal relationship with Putin. We know Trump insisted on the Helsinki meeting with Putin over the objections of his staff and despite the absence of any clear agenda.


      The big issue, at this point, isn’t what we don’t know; it’s that we have no idea what to do with what we do know.

      The Trump campaign coordinated — privately or publicly or both — with Russia to steal documents from Democrats and win the election. In the aftermath, as president, Trump has pursued a pro-Putin foreign policy and fought efforts to investigate or punish Russia’s crimes in 2016. What is the remedy for that? And even if there was one, who has the incentive and credibility to impose it?

      Congressional Republicans know their future is tied to Trump’s survival. Anything that weakens his administration weakens their 2018 reelection prospects, their ability to fill judgeships, their ability to pass tax cuts. Their political lives depend on Trump’s political strength.

      While it’s an interesting counterfactual to imagine the way the GOP would be reacting if all of these revelations were attached to President Bernie Sanders’s 2016 campaign, it is fantasy to imagine they will do anything save protect Trump to the best of their ability."

      https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...mueller-russia
      Last edited by BlueK; 07-16-2018, 02:47 PM.

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      • Come on, people!

        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • Dyslexics are teople poo...

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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Come on, people!

            What a moron. I hope the guy who posed for this pic isn't the same person who said the quote- that's just a bad look.
            "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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            • Originally posted by Commando View Post
              What a moron. I hope the guy who posed for this pic isn't the same person who said the quote- that's just a bad look.
              I don't know if he actually said it or not, but he is an American patriot!

              https://www.stevereichert.com/
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                I don't know if he actually said it or not, but he is an American patriot!

                https://www.stevereichert.com/
                I read his bio, and even though he grew up in "the communist state of Massachusetts," he didn't succumb to the siren song of liberalism and would later be sworn in by Joe Arpaio to work with that department. Hence his nuanced view on immigration.

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  I don't know if he actually said it or not, but he is an American patriot!

                  https://www.stevereichert.com/
                  Why are the people who refer to themselves as 'patriots,' quite invariably, complete douchebags?
                  "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                  • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                    Why are the people who refer to themselves as 'patriots,' quite invariably, complete douchebags?
                    Because they are. Tom Brady... nuff said.

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                    • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                      Why are the people who refer to themselves as 'patriots,' quite invariably, complete douchebags?
                      Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
                      Because they are. Tom Brady... nuff said.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
                        Because they are. Tom Brady... nuff said.
                        Bro, please. Let's focus our anger on who really deserves it, not the GOAT.
                        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                        - SeattleUte

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                        • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                          The one? It's part of a massive ongoing investigation that already has a bunch of people indicted.

                          [...]

                          Stop believing Russian bullshit.
                          By contrast, all patriotic citizens have a sacred duty to accept the claims of US federal prosecutors without evidence. Indictments are allegations, not objective facts. The indictments can (and likely will) fall apart upon closer scrutiny.
                          You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
                          Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

                          Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
                          You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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                          • Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                            By contrast, all patriotic citizens have a sacred duty to accept the claims of US federal prosecutors without evidence. Indictments are allegations, not objective facts. The indictments can (and likely will) fall apart upon closer scrutiny.
                            Sure. Why not just tell the truth and say you don't care if the statements in the indictment are true.

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                            • OMG... it's over for Drumpf this time!!!

                              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                                By contrast, all patriotic citizens have a sacred duty to accept the claims of US federal prosecutors without evidence. Indictments are allegations, not objective facts. The indictments can (and likely will) fall apart upon closer scrutiny.
                                Your various nothingburger statements and predictions have all been wrong. This will be no different.

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