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  • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
    More people should be alarmed but Trump has normalized this bullshit. Bad day for the Republic.
    Help guide my soul. What should I be alarmed about? Bear in mind you’re talking to someone who lived through Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    • Originally posted by creekster View Post
      Help guide my soul. What should I be alarmed about? Bear in mind you’re talking to someone who lived through Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre.
      you serious, clark?
      Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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      • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
        you serious, clark?
        You didn't think creek was old enough to have lived during Nixon's presidency?
        "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
        - Goatnapper'96

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        • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
          The investigation hasn’t really been that long not compared to White water, Iran contra or Benghazi.
          All those were too long as well.

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          • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
            All those were too long as well.

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            This one has been much shorter, and it's implications far more important.

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            • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
              you serious, clark?
              Yes. Thanks for asking.
              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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              • Originally posted by creekster View Post
                Yes. Thanks for asking.
                Agree with creekster. frank and other alarmists need to step back from the ledge.

                https://www.theamericanconservative....ult-will-pass/

                Despite the unremitting hysteria of the mainstream media and the handwringing of the American intelligentsia, the election of Donald Trump does not qualify as an existential event. That said, in November 2016, the subterranean river did resurface once again. Sadly, no figure on the political stage today, regardless of party, possesses anything like Nixon’s shrewdness in coping with the consequences. So when it comes to draining the floodwaters of radical reaction that Trump’s victory unleashed, we should expect little help from Washington.

                Yet let us not despair. The ebb and flow of events in the 1960s should give us confidence that the center will ultimately hold. The market for ecstasy and violence will once more prove to be limited and transitory. Today’s alt-right is no more likely to win the support of ordinary Americans than did the Weather Underground during the infamous Days of Rage.
                Last edited by Walter Sobchak; 11-07-2018, 09:48 PM.
                You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
                Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

                Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
                You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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                • The resignation of Sessions and appointment of Whitaker is troubling to me.
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                    The resignation of Sessions and appointment of Whitaker is troubling to me.
                    I don't know why Drumpf is so worried about Mueller... Didn't he say he could just pardon himself? Surely he could pardon Don Jr. too.

                    I am hoping that Whitaker will get Mueller to finally show his cards. I am getting tired of waiting.
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Originally posted by creekster View Post
                      Help guide my soul. What should I be alarmed about? Bear in mind you’re talking to someone who lived through Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre.
                      in any other universe this would be a pretty good indication at an attempt to obstruct justice. But we don't care anymore because it's just Trump's latest attempt at destroying norms. Funny that the article below cites an opinion from Clarence Thomas

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/o...itutional.html

                      Last year, the Supreme Court examined the question of whether the general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board had been lawfully appointed to his job without Senate confirmation. The Supreme Court held the appointment invalid on a statutory ground.

                      Justice Thomas agreed with the judgment, but wrote separately to emphasize that even if the statute had allowed the appointment, the Constitution’s Appointments Clause would not have. The officer in question was a principal officer, he concluded. And the public interest protected by the Appointments Clause was a critical one: The Constitution’s drafters, Justice Thomas argued, “recognized the serious risk for abuse and corruption posed by permitting one person to fill every office in the government.” Which is why, he pointed out, the framers provided for advice and consent of the Senate.

                      Mr. Whitaker has not been named to some junior post one or two levels below the Justice Department’s top job. He has now been vested with the law enforcement authority of the entire United States government, including the power to supervise Senate-confirmed officials like the deputy attorney general, the solicitor general and all United States attorneys.

                      We cannot tolerate such an evasion of the Constitution’s very explicit, textually precise design. Senate confirmation exists for a simple, and good, reason. Constitutionally, Matthew Whitaker is a nobody. His job as Mr. Sessions’s chief of staff did not require Senate confirmation. (Yes, he was confirmed as a federal prosecutor in Iowa, in 2004, but President Trump can’t cut and paste that old, lapsed confirmation to today.) For the president to install Mr. Whitaker as our chief law enforcement officer is to betray the entire structure of our charter document.

                      Mr. Whitaker’s installation makes a mockery of our Constitution and our founders’ ideals. As Justice Thomas’s opinion in the N.L.R.B. case reminds us, the Constitution’s framers “had lived under a form of government that permitted arbitrary governmental acts to go unchecked.” He added “they knew that liberty could be preserved only by ensuring that the powers of government would never be consolidated in one body.”
                      Last edited by BlueK; 11-08-2018, 10:34 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                        I don't know why Drumpf is so worried about Mueller... Didn't he say he could just pardon himself? Surely he could pardon Don Jr. too.

                        I am hoping that Whitaker will get Mueller to finally show his cards. I am getting tired of waiting.
                        I think this might be a good indication that Mueller showing his cards is very much what Trump doesn't want to happen.

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                        • Originally posted by creekster View Post
                          Yes. Thanks for asking.
                          this is a funny schtick. it’s like outrage porn, except the opposite. consider your virtuous boredom duly signalled.
                          Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                          • Forget the Russian Bots... We now have Chinese Bots spewing fake news!

                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Unsurprisingly, Trump's acting head of the Justice Dept. is a xenophobic weirdo:

                              ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL MATTHEW WHITAKER ONCE SAID JEWS, MUSLIMS AND ATHEISTS SHOULD NOT BE FEDERAL JUDGES

                              New acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker said in 2014 that judges without a New Testament “biblical view of justice,” should not serve on the federal bench and suggested that he would block the appointment of non-Christian judges if given the chance.

                              While Whitaker singled out atheists in particular as being unfit to serve, his comments also extended to Jewish and Muslim Americans.

                              In 2014, Whitaker was running for the Republican Senate nomination in Iowa and participated in a forum hosted by the religious-right group The Family Leader. The forum’s leader, Bob Vander Plaats, outlined the themes of the event in his opening remarks. “We believe God has three institutions: It would be the church, the family, and government,” he said. The Republican nominees were then asked a series of questions about their religious values, including their views on federal judgeships.

                              “If you get to the United States Senate and you have the majority, you can block President Obama’s judges,” said moderator Erick Erickson, a conservative blogger. “But most Americans would say you need to have a real reason to block those judges other than just they’re liberal. How do you set the criteria that you will use to block those judges?”

                              Whittaker's two competitors, Sam Clovis and Joni Ernst, said that they would use faith-based criteria and make sure they acknowledged “natural law.”

                              Natural law is the belief that legal rights and systems of morals were given to humans by God and were not derived from the rules of society. The concept is often used in religious communities to deem certain acts immoral and “unnatural” like the use of contraception or same-sex relationships.

                              But Whitaker said that using belief in natural law as a criterion for appointing U.S. federal judgeships did not go far enough.

                              “As someone that’s interacted with the federal judiciary a time or two, I will tell you that I have a unique perspective on federal judges,” he said.

                              “And while I agree that I want to understand their judicial philosophy and whether they understand natural law and natural rights and then the founding documents and how they fit together...I don’t think that gets us far enough because natural law oftentfimes is used from the eye of the beholder," he continued. "What I’d like to see is things like their worldview.… Are they people of faith? Do they have a biblical view of justice? I think that is very important.”

                              The moderator interrupted Whitaker and asked “Levitical or New Testament?” which is an indirect way of asking whether people of the Jewish faith should be banned from serving as federal judges.

                              “I’m a New Testament,” responded Whitaker to laughter. “And what I know is as long as they have that [New Testament] worldview that they’ll be a good judge.”

                              Under those guidelines, Whitaker would also question the ability of Muslim-Americans and other non-Christian Americans to sit on the federal bench.

                              If judges have a “secular worldview,” said Whitaker, “where this is all we have here on Earth? Then I’m going to be very concerned about how they judge.”

                              The comments that suggest judges need to have a biblical view of justice are “deeply troubling and require immediate clarification,” an Anti-Defamation League spokesperson told Newsweek. “The notion that non-Christian judges are disqualified from service is patently wrong, and completely inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution, which explicitly bars any religious test for public office,” he said.

                              The ADL also pointed out that these views were “contrary to the mission statement of the Department of Justice—‘to enforce the law and defend the interests of the United States according to the law… and to ensure fair and impartial administration of justice for all Americans.’”

                              The Department of Justice did not immediately respond to request for comment.

                              Matthew Whitaker was appointed by President Donald Trump as interim attorney general on Wednesday after his predecessor, Jeff Sessions, was suddenly ousted from office.

                              Trump has long vented publicly about Sessions’s decision to recuse himself from overseeing special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. Whitaker has been vocal about his opposition to the investigation and has said on numerous occasions that he believes it should be defunded.
                              https://www.newsweek.com/matthew-whi...n=Distribution

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                              • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                                Unsurprisingly, Trump's acting head of the Justice Dept. is a xenophobic weirdo:

                                ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL MATTHEW WHITAKER ONCE SAID JEWS, MUSLIMS AND ATHEISTS SHOULD NOT BE FEDERAL JUDGES



                                https://www.newsweek.com/matthew-whi...n=Distribution
                                That is so disturbing. That Trump is allowed to exist is a pity.
                                "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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