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Originally posted by YOhio View PostI definitely think the Obama administration deserves the blame for not sufficiently combatting Russian interference in the 2016 election. Maybe I'm being a sycophantic pussy, but in my simple mind I think the president at the time should bear the responsibility of defending our country against hostile foreign actors.
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― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostMueller didn't say zero evidence. We haven't heard from Mueller. Barr in the letter said they didn't "establish" that there was coordination.
This whole collusion narrative was propagated by a democratic party and a willing liberal media desperate to explain how they lost an election that was impossible to lose. Hillary: "It wasn't my fault I lost the election, they had the Russians on their side."
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All the crap that the former top CIA spook said on national TV may have been based on bad information... and he isn't smart enough to know the difference.
Ex-CIA chief offers mea culpa on Trump: 'I don't know if I received bad information'
Former CIA chief John O. Brennan now says his months of attacks on President Trump may have been based on “bad information.”
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Yeah, bad information coming out of the CIA has gotten us in a costly mess in the past as well."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostMueller didn't say zero evidence. We haven't heard from Mueller. Barr in the letter said they didn't "establish" that there was coordination."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by YOhio View PostTrue Trump haters on this board also hold similar contempt for Obama (any defense of Obama is also p much a declaration of love for Trump). Obama's incompetence gave Putin clear path to mess with our elections and make DJT the president.
Putin walked all over Obama. Obama was basically in the fetal position anytime Russia came knocking. The nail in the coffin for Obama was when he mocked Romney for saying Russia was our biggest geopolitical foe. Obama wasn’t just wrong, he was wrong in a way that allowed Trump to get elected. Of course the white nationalists and old people that are afraid of Mexicans also helped, but most of this comes back to Obama’s incompetence in foreign relations. Yet again, another reason to not vote into office a guy who was barely a senator for a couple years.
I still find it funny that Clinton lost to Trump. So very funny. She had to wear her purple victory dress to give a concession speech."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by YOhio View PostTrue Trump haters on this board also hold similar contempt for Obama (any defense of Obama is also p much a declaration of love for Trump). Obama's incompetence gave Putin clear path to mess with our elections and make DJT the president.Last edited by frank ryan; 03-26-2019, 08:35 AM.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostMueller didn't say zero evidence. We haven't heard from Mueller. Barr in the letter said they didn't "establish" that there was coordination.The Special Counsel’s investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election. As the report states: “[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
Clearly where there is evidence to weigh, i.e., evidence that may lead to an obstruction of justice finding, Mueller knows how to summarize it and consider pros and cons:
Instead, for each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as “difficult issues” of law and fact concerning whether the President’s actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction. The Special Counsel’s report states that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostThe letter didn’t say no evidence. Stop sounding exactly like talk radio. I miss the old, deliberate, less reactionary and sometimes funny SU.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostThe letter didn’t say no evidence. Stop sounding exactly like talk radio. I miss the old, deliberate, less reactionary and sometimes funny SU."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Sounds like Trump will get to do some redacting before we get to see the report. Who knows what will be buried.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bus...ivilege-2019-3
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostSounds like Trump will get to do some redacting before we get to see the report. Who knows what will be buried.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bus...ivilege-2019-3
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