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  • Perhaps this has already been linked (my board participation this month is/will be a bit sporadic) but David Brooks' piece in the New York Times provides a nice summation of Trump's personal issues. A lengthy but excellent sample:

    Second, most people of drinking age have achieved some accurate sense of themselves, some internal criteria to measure their own merits and demerits. But Trump seems to need perpetual outside approval to stabilize his sense of self, so he is perpetually desperate for approval, telling heroic fabulist tales about himself.

    “In a short period of time I understood everything there was to know about health care,” he told Time. “A lot of the people have said that, some people said it was the single best speech ever made in that chamber,” he told The Associated Press, referring to his joint session speech.

    By Trump’s own account, he knows more about aircraft carrier technology than the Navy. According to his interview with The Economist, he invented the phrase “priming the pump” (even though it was famous by 1933). Trump is not only trying to deceive others. His falsehoods are attempts to build a world in which he can feel good for an instant and comfortably deceive himself.

    He is thus the all-time record-holder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the phenomenon in which the incompetent person is too incompetent to understand his own incompetence. Trump thought he’d be celebrated for firing James Comey. He thought his press coverage would grow wildly positive once he won the nomination. He is perpetually surprised because reality does not comport with his fantasies.

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    • CNBC has an interesting theory... :foilhat:

      This latest Trump-Russia leak smells like a coup attempt

      • The latest Trump-Russia leak suggests that there is a sustained effort to remove him from office.
      • Trump has been sloppy and made many mistakes but this is tantamount to a coup.
      • The attempts to push Trump out of office may be illegal.


      There is, indeed, a bombshell of a story coming out of the news that President Donald Trump revealed sensitive information during his White House meeting with Russian officials last week. But it's not that President Trump committed any crime. The really alarming news is that the duly-elected President of the United States appears to be the target of a political coup.


      First, let's be clear: President Trump has been sloppy, arrogant, and just plain misguided plenty of times during his short tenure in office — including the way he handled the firing of FBI Director James Comey and the hiring and firing of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. And if he did unnecessarily compromise the source of the sensitive information he shared with the Russians, shame on him.


      But a president cannot be removed from office for arrogance and sloppiness. The Constitution sets specific grounds for impeachment. They are "treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors." To be impeached and removed from office, the House and Senate must find that the official committed one of these acts.


      Here's what I think is the bigger scandal: Someone at the highest levels of government has leaked information to the news media about President Trump's discussions with Russian officials. That's potentially a serious crime. And, this wasn't the first time.

      What all of the leaked stories have in common is that they were immediately beset with multiple leaks from highly placed officials meant to deeply defame President Trump. Once again, it's important to note that a good deal of these leaks may, indeed, be illegal. The Espionage Act bans transmitting or communicating information "relating to the national defense" if the leaker believes the information could be used to harm the United States or aid a foreign nation. And it's hard to see how these many leaks aren't helping our enemies.


      Where are these leaks coming from? When we look at the most likely sources, we find no real comfort. The first possibility is that someone close to President Trump himself is essentially acting like a mole in the White House. Remember that when the story broke Monday, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, and Deputy National Security Adviser Dina Powell were all in the room with President Trump and the Russians last week and they all flatly denied the news reports. If one of them is saying one thing publicly and something else to contacts in the news media, that is certainly not encouraging.
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      http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/16/this-...ommentary.html

      So who would benefit from having Drumpf impeached? In order:









      OMG! The mole is Orrin Hatch!

      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • There is also this: The 25th amendment to the Constitution. This would be like a coup, but actually legal. Not saying it should be done, but it's in the Constitution.
        The VP and a majority of the cabinet could declare that the president is unable to do the job. Then 2/3rds vote of both Houses would be needed to uphold it if the president disagrees. Actually easier to impeach since that only takes a majority in the House and 2/3rds in the Senate.

        4: Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

        Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

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        • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
          There is also this: The 25th amendment to the Constitution. This would be like a coup, but actually legal. Not saying it should be done, but it's in the Constitution.
          The VP and a majority of the cabinet could declare that the president is unable to do the job. Then 2/3rds vote of both Houses would be needed to uphold it if the president disagrees. Actually easier to impeach since that only takes a majority in the House and 2/3rds in the Senate.

          Yes, that is where that sneaky Orrin Hatch comes in... He is most likely working behind the scenes getting the senate votes needed. Orrin is a forked tongue devil but Utah loves him.
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
            Yes, that is where that sneaky Orrin Hatch comes in... He is most likely working behind the scenes getting the senate votes needed. Orrin is a forked tongue devil but Utah loves him.
            Now that's power.

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            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
              Yes, that is where that sneaky Orrin Hatch comes in... He is most likely working behind the scenes getting the senate votes needed. Orrin is a forked tongue devil but Utah loves him.
              sure. He's always been a Trump cheerleader. Doesn't seem likely to me.

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              • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                Now that's power.
                LOL.
                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                  There is also this: The 25th amendment to the Constitution. This would be like a coup, but actually legal. Not saying it should be done, but it's in the Constitution.
                  The VP and a majority of the cabinet could declare that the president is unable to do the job. Then 2/3rds vote of both Houses would be needed to uphold it if the president disagrees. Actually easier to impeach since that only takes a majority in the House and 2/3rds in the Senate.

                  4: Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

                  Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
                  Seems like it could happen now more than ever. Honest question: you think Trump has syphilis?
                  "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                  • Whatever Trump is doing it you can be sure he's criticized some one else on Twitter for doing the same thing.







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                    • Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                      Whatever Trump is doing it you can be sure he's criticized some one else on Twitter for doing the same thing.







                      So the criticism is that Trump blasted Obama for bowing to the Saudi King but look at him dipping in order to get that awesome necklace? That's a pretty big stretch. Considering everything else out there to criticize, this seems silly.
                      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                      • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                        So the criticism is that Trump blasted Obama for bowing to the Saudi King but look at him dipping in order to get that awesome necklace? That's a pretty big stretch. Considering everything else out there to criticize, this seems silly.
                        Of course it's silly.

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                        • Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                          Of course it's silly.
                          90% of the criticism is beyond silly, but he's the king of silly and has brought it onto himself.
                          Get confident, stupid
                          -landpoke

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                          • You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
                            Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

                            Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
                            You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                              • Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                                By electing Trump, the US is trying to make other countries feel a sense of commonality.
                                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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