Lol. Nice subtle shot at a poster. I won't say his name as to not blow your cover.
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Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostTrump continues to amaze me with his monumental stupidity. I've been listening to parts of an interview with the Washington Examiner that was published earlier this morning. It's filled with truly idiotic observations, including how Andrew Jackson
Where to begin? First of all, Jackson, a slaveholder, died about sixteen years before the Civil War, but was apparently able to share his post-mortem thoughts with the Donald. And isn't the Civil War and its causes the most-written about topic in U.S. history? And yet "people don't ask that question..." Perhaps if Trump, unquestionably the most illiterate President of my lifetime, had ever cracked a book, he wouldn't be as prone to such stupidity. But then, I've never been more entertained by any chief executive, so there's that.
It would not surprise me if he had an unusual take on Jackson. He obviously looks up to the guy, as well as many other strongmen in government. I wonder if he thinks Jackson would 'take care' of the southern states like he did with the native Americans. Maybe if someone was more forceful with the south earlier, there wouldn't be a Civil war.
But then Trump being Trump, who the hell knows what he meant by his Jackson comment?"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostTruly a bizarre comment.
It would not surprise me if he had an unusual take on Jackson. He obviously looks up to the guy, as well as many other strongmen in government. I wonder if he thinks Jackson would 'take care' of the southern states like he did with the native Americans. Maybe if someone was more forceful with the south earlier, there wouldn't be a Civil war.
But then Trump being Trump, who the hell knows what he meant by his Jackson comment?
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In the last couple of days Trump has preached that the government should be able to go after the press merely for being "negative," and now he's talking about Congress being "archaic." Funny that he uses the Gorsuch confirmation as one of his arguments. He says it was handled shamefully. What? First he says the rules are archaic, especially in the Senate, but then when they simplify the rules to push through his own nominee it's shameful? That makes sense only in his scrambled brain, I guess.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/01/politi...ump/index.htmlLast edited by BlueK; 05-01-2017, 10:57 AM.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostI'm also amazed more people can't see through the sheer idiocy of the man. But I've also always thought it's not totally about him for his supporters. There is a very large part of this that is merely about giving the middle finger to the "establishment" as they call it. And by that I think it means not only the government. It's about everyone they perceive as more powerful than them. They don't care if Trump is an idiot. He just taps into the anger, and that is enough.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostNot to mention that we have a strong component of anti-intellectualism in our country. His stupidity and ignorance make him more "real" and relatable to some folks.
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The local Trump voters I've talked to are pretty "eh" about things.
They are frustrated with immunity and citizenship for undocumented immigrants, but seem to view the wall as a symbolic gesture and don't seem to upset one way or the other about its being built. They seem more interested in what's going on with sanctuary cities than with the wall.
They are tired of the consequences of the ACA as far as what it's done to health care costs - particularly in light of the promises made. But they get that there is a need for health care reform. They're pretty mixed on what that means - repealing the ACA first or just working to change it. Basically they just say something has to change.
They don't care about all the dumb stuff he says - in some ways I think they kind of like it because of the reactions he gets. One guy just told me that presidents and politicians have been saying dumb shit for years, and shrugged. Multiple have commented that it would've been nice for the press to pay this much attention to everything Obama was saying and fact check it as heavily as they focus on Trump.
The impression I get is that Trump was a means of giving the establishment the bird - as has been indicated. And the guys I've talked to all seem to think he's doing just fine - with plans more in line with what they're hoping for and not just more of the same from Washington. It's been interesting, for sure.
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Originally posted by Eddie View PostThe local Trump voters I've talked to are pretty "eh" about things.
They are frustrated with immunity and citizenship for undocumented immigrants, but seem to view the wall as a symbolic gesture and don't seem to upset one way or the other about its being built. They seem more interested in what's going on with sanctuary cities than with the wall.
They are tired of the consequences of the ACA as far as what it's done to health care costs - particularly in light of the promises made. But they get that there is a need for health care reform. They're pretty mixed on what that means - repealing the ACA first or just working to change it. Basically they just say something has to change.
They don't care about all the dumb stuff he says - in some ways I think they kind of like it because of the reactions he gets. One guy just told me that presidents and politicians have been saying dumb shit for years, and shrugged. Multiple have commented that it would've been nice for the press to pay this much attention to everything Obama was saying and fact check it as heavily as they focus on Trump.
The impression I get is that Trump was a means of giving the establishment the bird - as has been indicated. And the guys I've talked to all seem to think he's doing just fine - with plans more in line with what they're hoping for and not just more of the same from Washington. It's been interesting, for sure.
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I'll admit that I liked Trump skipping the WH correspondents dinner.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostTruly a bizarre comment.
It would not surprise me if he had an unusual take on Jackson. He obviously looks up to the guy, as well as many other strongmen in government. I wonder if he thinks Jackson would 'take care' of the southern states like he did with the native Americans. Maybe if someone was more forceful with the south earlier, there wouldn't be a Civil war.
But then Trump being Trump, who the hell knows what he meant by his Jackson comment?
https://youtu.be/0BSrJv0IpHY
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Originally posted by 8BR View PostTrump's comments are a direct result of his Bannon homeschooling. Watch the last 1:12 of a Bannon speech below...
https://youtu.be/0BSrJv0IpHY
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostI've never heard that argument before. What kind of leadership is he referring to that could have averted the Civil War? When I type in google search 'how Buchanan could....' I get 'have prevented the Civil War'. So I guess it's out there. I'm not sure I even want to know how people think it could have been prevented."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI am reading another book about pre-civil war south. Never ceases to amaze me how slavery so thoroughly corrupted the south. Given the trajectory they were on, it would have taken a long time for them to abandon slavery organically. And what would America look like now had slavery lived on for several more generations?"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by 8BR View PostTrump's comments are a direct result of his Bannon homeschooling. Watch the last 1:12 of a Bannon speech below...
https://youtu.be/0BSrJv0IpHY
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI am reading another book about pre-civil war south. Never ceases to amaze me how slavery so thoroughly corrupted the south. Given the trajectory they were on, it would have taken a long time for them to abandon slavery organically. And what would America look like now had slavery lived on for several more generations?"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostMaybe it would look like Mauritania... they didn't abolish slavery until 1981 (and not punish slave owners until 2007). Of course, "human trafficking" is the new term for slavery.
There were a lot of close calls pre Fort Sumter, but it took Lincoln getting elected to spark secession.
You don't have to have been Joseph Smith to have predicted the Civil War decades early."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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