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Originally posted by old_gregg View Postwhy would they be stunned? you think you can't oppose a border wall without valuing border security?
I'm totally fine with President Trump expending his political effort and capital on this. If it keeps him occupied and he eventually succeeds, at the end of the day we essentially have a big 'ol chain link fence that maybe we can see from space. Not much downside and is preferred over having him meddle elsewhere.You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Here is some raw meat for UT and also some stuff for BlueK (in bold):
Trump is Ruling a Post-Truth World, But He Didn't Create It
By Wayne Gladstone | April 26, 2017
Sean Spicer offended millions by comparing Hitler favorably to Syria’s President Bashar Al-Assad. After all, unlike Assad, Spicer explained, Hitler never gassed his own people. Aside from conveniently forgetting all those systematically murdered in Hitler’s gas chambers, many found it understandably distasteful of Spicer to build a case for war by normalizing and minimizing Hitler’s atrocities. But just a day earlier, liberals including David Simon, creator of one of television’s best shows—The Wire—and some of Twitter’s worst neoliberal tweets had essentially said the same thing.
Obviously, the words of a White House Press Secretary are more important than the tweets of people who will still be making “but her emails” jokes well after Chelsea Clinton loses the 2024 Presidential election. But this is just the latest example of the double standard employed by the mainstream media and proud Democrats who remain silent despite the sins of their allies. It’s the kind of hypocrisy and selective outrage that enabled a liar like Donald Trump to come to power in the first place. Make no mistake: while Trump is ruling in a post-truth world, he didn’t create it.
Not too long ago, the press and mainstream liberals were outraged by George W. Bush and the PATRIOT Act. The expansion of the NSA’s activities and the increase of executive power was understandably terrifying to all who were in interested in living in a democracy after 9/11. Yet fears gave way to silence when Barack Obama signed NDAA, including Sections 1021 and 1022, which should’ve been disturbing to any American, let alone a former Constitutional Law professor That’s probably why President Obama said he had “serious reservations with certain provisions [of the bill] that regulate the detention, interrogation and prosecution of suspected terrorists.” It still didn’t stop him from signing it into law.
NDAA allows the Federal government to jail American citizens indefinitely without the right to counsel if suspected of supporting al-Qaida, but doesn’t do a great job of defining what constitutes support. That’s why a group of journalists sought an injunction fearing they could be imprisoned under its vague provisions for merely interviewing Al Qaeda. Justice Katherine Forrest granted that injunction and held the legislation more constitutionally egregious than the PATRIOT Act. For clarity, Judge Forrest is no Fox News legal correspondent—she’s a Federal Court Judge who was appointed by Barack Obama. And even though President Obama purportedly had issues with this bill that suspends basic due process protections as part of the war on terror, his administration’s Justice Department appealed the ruling, getting a panel to set it aside by a three to two margin.
Where was the outrage in the media and the electorate? Where were all the 1984 think pieces? Where were the references to third world dictatorships where journalists live in fear of indefinite detention from the government? Where were editorials explaining how the Federal government was dangerously close to an autocracy? There were none, because the consensus of major media and proud Democrats was that Barack Obama was a pretty chill dude. It seemed fears of unbridled executive power were only warranted when Republicans were in office.
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And that’s how someone like Trump comes to power. When an unqualified narcissist can proclaim everything in Washington is a lie and he’s going to burn the place to the ground it resonates. It resonates because we’re already living in a world where the press and party loyalists only take offense at their enemies’ transgressions. Where outrage is chosen based on the speaker of words instead of the words themselves. But such selective indignation destroys the value of speech and reduces truth to a commodity whose worth fluctuates with personal bias. It creates a world without absolutes, where there is no right or wrong, where progressives can be mocked for their purity. We can blame Trump for fostering hate through a series of lies, but we can’t credit him with creating a post-truth world. It was the post-truth world that made his presidency possible.
You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View PostHere is some raw meat for UT and also some stuff for BlueK (in bold):
Last edited by BlueK; 04-26-2017, 10:48 AM.
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Originally posted by BlueK View Postwithdraw from NAFTA? What an idiot.
I assume this is a threat from Trump, hoping to extract some goodies from Canada and Mexico. I wonder who will blink first."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostSoooo much winning.
I assume this is a threat from Trump, hoping to extract some goodies from Canada and Mexico. I wonder who will blink first.Last edited by BlueK; 04-26-2017, 10:55 AM.
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Trump wants to break up the 9th circuit because they are liberal and have put checks on his power. I don't remember any other POTUS in my lifetime, from either party, considering some thing like this. It's creepy.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...t-that-blocked
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostTrump wants to break up the 9th circuit because they are liberal and have put checks on his power. I don't remember any other POTUS in my lifetime, from either party, considering some thing like this. It's creepy.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...t-that-blockedYou're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostBy which presidents? What was the context?
Sent from my LG-H918 using TapatalkAin't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostBy which presidents? What was the context?
Now would President Trump sign a bill if it were passed? Yeah, I guess he would.
Shall we be outraged at all the theoretical bills that President Trump might sign?
Frank sez: ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY!You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Originally posted by falafel View PostI don't know which presidents considered it, but there have been numerous bills in Congress over the years proposing to break up the 9th circuit. It should probably happen (it's by far the largest), but no one can agree on a good place to split it.
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Efforts to split the Ninth Circuit are not new. Indeed, Congress has visited the issue with some regularity over the past thirty years.(10) Beginning with the Hruska Commission in 1972, Ninth Circuit Reorganization Acts have been studied or introduced in the House or Senate (or both) in 1972-73, 1983, 1989, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999, and 2001.(11) Almost all sponsors and co-sponsors have come from states in the Pacific Northwest, principally but not exclusively, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, or Alaska.(12)
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10. For an informative summary of reorganization history, please see Sanford Svetcov and Janelle Kellman, "The 'No Split' Split of the Ninth Circuit–The End of the World as We Know it?," 15 J. L. & Pol. 495 (1999).
11. For brief but comprehensive summaries of Congressional action, please see Jennifer E. Spreng, "The Icebox Cometh: A Former Clerk's View of the Proposed Ninth Circuit Split," 73 Wash. L. Rev. 875, 876-79, 885-93 (1998); Senator Conrad Burns, "Dividing the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals: A Proposition Long Overdue," 57 Mont. L. Rev. 245, 247-50 (1996).
12. See Jennifer E. Spreng, "Three Divisions in One Circuit? A Critique of the Recommendations from the Commission on Structural Alternatives for the Federal Courts of Appeals," 35 Idaho L. Rev. 553, 559-60 (1999).You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostBy which presidents? What was the context?"Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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