Mitt ran 4 years too soon.Originally Posted by creekster
I would like to blame the Trump presidency on all the people who made Romney out to be Hitler, a blood-sucking capitalist that caused a woman to die of cancer, and an animal abuser. Mitt should be in his 2d term now. This is my message to them:.
Steve Bannon plans to go 'thermonuclear' on White House officials.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/18/stev...als-axios.html
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the things that were once thought to be Mitt negatives.
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You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than to risk peace in pursuit of politics. --President Donald J. Trump
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
Steve Bannon plans to go 'thermonuclear' on White House officials.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/18/stev...als-axios.html
Ha. Just declaring war here, no connection to Bannon's firing.Meanwhile, Breitbart senior editor-at-large Joel Pollak, who tweeted "#WAR" after Bannon's departure was announced, told CNBC on Friday that he meant Breitbart would go to war "rhetorically speaking," defending Americans against the mainstream media. He insisted Bannon's exit from the White House would not change Breitbart's coverage
Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
Holy crap! Bert is a commie?
Mind blown.
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"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Not Bert, close resemblance though.
You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace, than to risk peace in pursuit of politics. --President Donald J. Trump
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
Interesting.
I have heard rumors that we shouldn't allow kids to watch Bert and Ernie because it implicitly promotes the gay agenda. Two dudes living together and all that...
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
I hope Trump or Kelly get rid of that try-hard Nazi Gorka. He's a vile character.
"Just watched the speech. He lit up both sides. I loved it." -Shaka
Yeah, Trump hasn't been the least bit corrupt in his business dealings over the years. Well, maybe the one time the Florida attorney general was going after him for fraud but dropped the charges after he gave her a campaign contribution.
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--Michael Corleone, Godfather III
Good you have an excellent track record judging all matters Trump, so we know it's nothing to worry about.
"Just watched the speech. He lit up both sides. I loved it." -Shaka
What are you talking about? It was a joke.
Besides, what is my track record?
PLesa excuse the tpyos.
Now that I have a minute to respond, I have been thinking about this and disagree with 1,2,and 3.
1) It's hard to argue that Trump alone has undermined faith in the validity of elections when the DNC rigged their primary to give their chosen one the nomination. Has his reticence to cooperate in an investigation hurt? Probably, but his part in any diminished faith in our electoral process is small in the grand scheme of things until there is sound evidence that he colluded with the Russians to rig the elections.
2) The press has brought America's distrust on by itself. Their clear bias turns most people off, and the only people who listen to them are those who want someone to tell them what they want to hear. I'm not supporting Trump's disparagement of the media, but he's no different than any other President in terms of criticizing media, so why single him out? Investigating the personal lives of journalists we don't agree with to try to destroy their career, or worse, investigating journalists who report leaked information has done more damage and contributed more to threatening our free press than anything Trump has done.
3) Obama's "I have a pen" remark when Congress wouldn't do what he wanted was more damaging than Trump's executive actions, and Bush greatly expanded executive power, so again, why single out Trump?
In short, I think Trump is complicit in all three of the above areas, but why are we singling him out and giving others a pass? My point was not to defend Trump, who in recent days has proven to be indefensible, but to say that the actions of his predecessors put him in office. I stand by that. Until last week, I didn't think anyone could be worse than Obama. From an economic perspective, I still believe that's true. Regardless, Hillary's voters still don't get it. None of you understand that your opinions may be valid where you live, but you, your representatives, and the Beltway crew should stop telling middle America what to do without understanding their concerns.
"Outlined against a blue, gray
October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
Grantland Rice, 1924
oh, brother
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Wonder if he feels the same about inner city black people? Middle America sure has ample advice for other communities.
"Just watched the speech. He lit up both sides. I loved it." -Shaka
I'm still here; you can ask me. While you're at it how about explaining why you think I would feel differently about inner city black communities.
Middle America wants to live by their rules and not rules imposed on them by people who don't live in their same circumstances. Of course they have opinions about issues- everyone does- but they didn't oppose Hillary because she refused to impose their will on Urban America. I realize it's just easier to label the anti-hillary crowd racists and bigots but it smacks of smug elitism and intellectual laziness.
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"Outlined against a blue, gray
October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
Grantland Rice, 1924
Speaking of middle American, Helena, MT. took down their confederate monument:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/helena-...rate-memorial/
"Just watched the speech. He lit up both sides. I loved it." -Shaka
That's like half the city. And why does Montana have a confederate monument anyway?About 20 people gathered to protest Friday
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They have them all over, California, Idaho etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tes_of_America
That's like half the city. And why does Montana have a confederate monument anyway?
"Just watched the speech. He lit up both sides. I loved it." -Shaka
Zero in Utah.
https://www.splcenter.org/sites/defa...itage_splc.pdf
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That's what I was going to ask.
That's like half the city. And why does Montana have a confederate monument anyway?
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Nor in Wyoming. Strange, us being such racists and all.
"Outlined against a blue, gray
October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
Grantland Rice, 1924
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
how about the matthew shepard monument?
Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
Fake news. Idaho doesn't.
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One of the weirdest monuments I've seen is Robert E. Lee Elementary school in Wenatchee, WA. Built in 1955, apparently as an homage to Southern farmers who emigrated there during the dust bowl. Out of all the American schools named after the confederacy, It looks most lonely:
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According to this article, there was a debate about changing the name after the Charleston massacre. 90%(!) voted to keep the name as is.
https://www.inlander.com/Bloglander/...nging-its-name
Is there any reason, at all, to have a school in Washington named after a confederate general? And even if there was in the past, is there a reason now to keep it? I think this is a perfectly good example of how powerful the 'what's done is done/it's ancient history/no reason to rewrite history' inertia is in conservative circles. I guess it also doubles as a nice check to remind any African American families of their place that might live there...
It bothers me that the white nationalists have hijacked the word "conservative"
Only 140 in my state. Looks like we are pretty clean.
IMO the SPLC is fudging the numbers a bit. I looked at the ones in my city, and I am familiar with a couple of them, as I walk by them quite a bit. For example, one is listed as "Monument" with the description of "Last Meetings of the Confederate Cabinet Marker". That's true, as far as it goes, but this is a "North Carolina Historical Marker". The state has them all over the place, and it is basically a metal plaque on a pole. I attached a google image search below, which coincidentally has the marker referenced by the SPLC. The full text is:
"Confederate Cabinet with President Davis held last full meetings April 22-26, 1865 in a house which was located here"
Hardly a rousing call for the South to rise again, especially when you see that there are markers about Sherman's march and the civil rights movement in the same search results.
Having said that, I'm sure in the 140 that are listed we have a few dozen questionable ones.
Yeah, nobody should have a problem with historical markers.
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"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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