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Originally posted by Commando View PostYeah he does- but not carte blanche. He just can't subjectively say he thinks there's a threat.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Originally posted by myboynoah View PostAgreed. What a crazy place to plant the Dem flag.
I just heard a commentator on CNN say that this vote will stick with those voting to confirm for a long time. Really? Unless Devos is a total disaster, no one will care in 6 months.
Why do they announce ahead of time, like McConnell did? They want failure. Looks like they aren't pulling for America to do well but their own power base to do well.
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Originally posted by Commando View PostYeah he does- but not carte blanche. He just can't subjectively say he thinks there's a threat.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by myboynoah View PostAgreed. What a crazy place to plant the Dem flag.
I just heard a commentator on CNN say that this vote will stick with those voting to confirm for a long time. Really? Unless Devos is a total disaster, no one will care in 6 months.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostBut weren't these seven nations designated as specific terror threats by the Obama admin? So the question isnt if they present a threat (and saying we have to wait until they actually commit an attack is ludicrous) it is a question over the proper response. Few think his response is proper but it seems to me it is his role to decide that.Last edited by Commando; 02-07-2017, 10:25 AM."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by myboynoah View PostAgreed. What a crazy place to plant the Dem flag.
I just heard a commentator on CNN say that this vote will stick with those voting to confirm for a long time. Really? Unless Devos is a total disaster, no one will care in 6 months.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostBut weren't these seven nations designated as specific terror threats by the Obama admin? So the question isnt if they present a threat (and saying we have to wait until they actually commit an attack is ludicrous) it is a question over the proper response. Few think his response is proper but it seems to me it is his role to decide that."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by Commando View PostI'm wondering where the threat is coming from. Refugees? Vetted entrants with valid visas? Who is pouring in that Trump is worried about that he signed this order? Those are the questions he can't answer acceptably.
They could get here and not do anything for years. During that time they could recruit. Now, I don't really fear for myself or friends or family that much. None of them live in an area that would be a prime target. So for humantarian sakes, let's be a great country and if it costs us some citizens, well there are always trade offs.
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Originally posted by byu71 View PostI can't speak for Trump, but my fear is yes could slip through the refugee program and vetted visas. There have been enough credible people questionning the current vetting that I would like to see some hard asses, like Kelly look at it instead of the more sensitive folks like Pres. Obama and Kerry.
They could get here and not do anything for years. During that time they could recruit. Now, I don't really fear for myself or friends or family that much. None of them live in an area that would be a prime target. So for humantarian sakes, let's be a great country and if it costs us some citizens, well there are always trade offs."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Originally posted by byu71 View PostI can't speak for Trump, but my fear is yes could slip through the refugee program and vetted visas. There have been enough credible people questionning the current vetting that I would like to see some hard asses, like Kelly look at it instead of the more sensitive folks like Pres. Obama and Kerry.
They could get here and not do anything for years. During that time they could recruit. Now, I don't really fear for myself or friends or family that much. None of them live in an area that would be a prime target. So for humantarian sakes, let's be a great country and if it costs us some citizens, well there are always trade offs.
Obama's "ban" Kelly Conway brought up was actually when he added 2 additional background checks to refugees from Iraq after finding 2 refugees with Al Quaeda contacts. The whole thing ground to a halt for 6 months until they got caught up on applications. They're pretty thorough. I don't know who's questioning the vetting process aside from Trump and Steve Bannon.Last edited by Commando; 02-07-2017, 10:54 AM."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by Commando View PostIs that the same thing as halting visa applications and refugee status? How does that combat a terror threat to or within those countries? Trump likes to blow the horn of "extreme vetting," but it is clear he is unfamiliar with the process and there is no real pathway to resuming visa applications for those foreign nationals if the order is upheld. It is 120 days AND those country's governments must comply or demonstrate they can deliver acceptable vetting of visa applicants, whatever that means. That's pretty clear that if you're from Iran, now is the time to GTFO before this thing becomes law and doesn't go away until Trump is gone. America first, huh?PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by New Mexican Disaster View PostTeachers will care.You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Originally posted by Commando View PostI'm wondering where the threat is coming from. Refugees? Vetted entrants with valid visas? Who is pouring in that Trump is worried about that he signed this order? Those are the questions he can't answer acceptably.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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