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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    How is he not responsible? All bank stocks jumped significantly the day after the election and they’ve stayed up for the most part. Did something else happen on Election Day to cause the jump?
    Come on. That's an awfully simplistic analysis.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/02/insa...not-trump.html

    http://www.npr.org/2017/07/20/538354...-a-trump-rally
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    In the middle of a discussion where people claim frank is only worried about tweets.
    He's also worried about Trump colluding with the Russians to win the election and nuclear war with NK. The first hasn't been proven and will not be and the second isn't going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaka View Post
    He's also worried about Trump colluding with the Russians to win the election and nuclear war with NK. The first hasn't been proven and will not be and the second isn't going to happen.
    That's it? No other concerns about a Trump presidency?

    Phew. Frank, we can all relax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
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    You are indeed a master of mocking arguments nobody is making.
    Go back and read og’s post and I think you’ll start to understand why cowboy said what he said.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    How is he not responsible? All bank stocks jumped significantly the day after the election and they’ve stayed up for the most part. Did something else happen on Election Day to cause the jump?


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    fyi the s&p and dow each grew at a faster rate 1/1/16 to 10/1/16 than 1/1/17 to 10/1/17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Go back and read og’s post and I think you’ll start to understand why cowboy said what he said.
    So you are only talking about the election day jump? Seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    So you are only talking about the election day jump? Seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    fyi the s&p and dow each grew at a faster rate 1/1/16 to 10/1/16 than 1/1/17 to 10/1/17.
    Markets have been on a great run since 2012. And a linear trend since Feb 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Markets have been on a great run since 2012. And a linear trend since Feb 2016.
    but muh trump bank stock!!
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    The table in this article is interesting.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...uly-2017-08-01

    Best president in the modern era for stock market gains? Obama.
    Worst president? GWB.

    I hope Trump ends up topping that. In spite of his imbecility and anti-market tendencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    The table in this article is interesting.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...uly-2017-08-01

    Best president in the modern era for stock market gains? Obama.
    Worst president? GWB.

    I hope Trump ends up topping that. In spite of his imbecility and anti-market tendencies.
    SO, taking your posts together, you think Obama should get credit for being great for markets, and perhaps GWB blame for being bad for markets, and that other, non-presidential factors have driven the market during Trump's presidency so he gets zero credit (although one of the articles you linked did note the likely positive effect of his de-regulation efforts on business)?
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    SO, taking your posts together, you think Obama should get credit for being great for markets, and perhaps GWB blame for being bad for markets, and that other, non-presidential factors have driven the market during Trump's presidency so he gets zero credit (although one of the articles you linked did note the likely effect of his regulation efforts on business)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    :facepalm:
    That was sort of how I felt reading your posts.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    That's it? No other concerns about a Trump presidency?

    Phew. Frank, we can all relax.
    Well I left out the other conspiracy theories and the news articles from left-wing sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creekster View Post
    SO, taking your posts together, you think Obama should get credit for being great for markets, and perhaps GWB blame for being bad for markets, and that other, non-presidential factors have driven the market during Trump's presidency so he gets zero credit (although one of the articles you linked did note the likely positive effect of his de-regulation efforts on business)?
    Interesting. I wonder if the fellow authoring the article knows what the Fed did and what mark to market accounting is.

    I wonder what the genius Cuban (Mark). He advised Everton to get out if Trump one. I heard Soros lost a billion or two. I feel real bad about that.

    I have a soft spot in my heart for predictors of doom.

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    I will predict that IPU makes it longer on this venue with Obama as President than Frank is going to make it with the Don as our Chief Executive.

    Franky alone has the right to determine whether each one of you are Trump supporters and from what I gather the litmus test is whether he agrees with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byu71 View Post

    I have a soft spot in my heart for predictors of doom.
    What is your prediction for the future of BYU football?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    What is your prediction for the future of BYU football?
    I actually predicted some of what we are now experiencing. Emphasize some. I didn't see this record we have coming.

    I do sincerely hope this is a temporary thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    I will predict that IPU makes it longer on this venue with Obama as President than Frank is going to make it with the Don as our Chief Executive.

    Franky alone has the right to determine whether each one of you are Trump supporters and from what I gather the litmus test is whether he agrees with you.
    Yeah, you know what you can tune out what I say but comparing me to il pad’s reactivity is a bit over the top. It’s pretty clear that you and others would prefer I don’t post but tough luck. And don’t mind me, by all means keep your head firmly up your ass when it comes to Trump.

    While it may be conventient to try and discredit my opinions because of my politics, keep in mind I’m far from the only person calling people out for normalizing Trump’s increasing instability and repugnant diviseness.

    But you can count on me to consistently insist Trump is a shitty president. I don’t blindly bag on Republicans and voted for Republican candidates more times the il pad has Democrats. I’m not a conservative and never will be, but my commentary is about Trump, his supporters and apologists, not conservatism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino ute
    Yeah, you know what you can tune out what I say but comparing me to frank’s reactivity is a bit over the top. It’s pretty clear that you and others would prefer I don’t post but tough luck. And don’t mind me, by all means keep your head firmly up your ass when it comes to Obama.

    While it may be conventient to try and discredit my opinions because of my politics, keep in mind I’m far from the only person calling people out for normalizing Obama’s increasing socialism and repugnant diviseness.

    But you can count on me to consistently insist Obama is a shitty president. I don’t blindly bag on Democrats and voted for Democratic candidates more times the frank has Republicans. I’m not a liberal and never will be, but my commentary is about Obama, his supporters and apologists, not liberalism.



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    McKay Coppins:

    How Republicans Got Trump Catastrophically Wrong

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-wrong/542568/

    During last year’s election—back before Washington Republicans awoke to the dangers of an erratic and impulsive commander in chief tweeting his way into “World War III”—there was a common argument deployed by party loyalists in defense of Donald Trump: He’ll behave himself once he’s in office.

    GOP leaders generally acknowledged (on and off the record) that their nominee’s reckless campaign-trail persona was not suitable for the leader of the free world—but they insisted there would be a difference between Candidate Trump and President Trump. He would surround himself with competent advisers; lean on the good judgment of his running-mate Mike Pence; and mellow out as he confronted the full burdens of the office.
    Only now, nine months into the Trump presidency, are Republicans like Corker admitting how badly they misread the situation—and just how catastrophic the consequences to their wrongness could be.
    But it's nothing to worry about, right? Crazy democrats ... err ... republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    Suspend political opinions if possible, Hillary would not have been worse than Trump. I can't think of many people worse. I voted for McMullin, but I definitely preferred Hillary over Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino ute
    Yeah, you know what you can tune out what I say but comparing me to frank’s reactivity is a bit over the top. It’s pretty clear that you and others would prefer I don’t post but tough luck. And don’t mind me, by all means keep your head firmly up your ass when it comes to Obama.

    While it may be conventient to try and discredit my opinions because of my politics, keep in mind I’m far from the only person calling people out for normalizing Obama’s increasing socialism and repugnant diviseness.

    But you can count on me to consistently insist Obama is a shitty president. I don’t blindly bag on Democrats and voted for Democratic candidates more times the frank has Republicans. I’m not a liberal and never will be, but my commentary is about Obama, his supporters and apologists, not liberalism.
    Hahahahahahaha! I was thinking the other day that we need to have a cougarute political graph with Il Pad in the upper right and frank in the lower left, since they are two sides of the same crazy coin:

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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    fyi the s&p and dow each grew at a faster rate 1/1/16 to 10/1/16 than 1/1/17 to 10/1/17.
    You're almost right. The S&P grew by 124 points from the close on 12/31/2015 to the close on 9/30/2016. By comparison the S&P grew 280 points between the close on 12/30/2016 and the close on 9/29/2017. As for the Dow, it grew by 883 points during that first ten months of last year, compared to 3078 points between 12/30/2016 to 9/29/2017. Again, almost right, 883 points is almost the same as 3,078 points.
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    I should probably be getting tired of these, but as long as I only look at them once every couple of weeks, they lift my spirits. Here's our President commenting on the NFL and dismissing any concerns about the Rooskies. The second video is Archived Trump displaying much more gravitas. I recommend Peter Serafinowicz's website for the entire collection of Sassy Trump.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    You're almost right. The S&P grew by 124 points from the close on 12/31/2015 to the close on 9/30/2016. By comparison the S&P grew 280 points between the close on 12/30/2016 and the close on 9/29/2017. As for the Dow, it grew by 883 points during that first ten months of last year, compared to 3078 points between 12/30/2016 to 9/29/2017. Again, almost right, 883 points is almost the same as 3,078 points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Hahahahahahaha! I was thinking the other day that we need to have a cougarute political graph with Il Pad in the upper right and frank in the lower left, since they are two sides of the same crazy coin:

    d6511429ffe9bbb86a1cf881bdbf356a.481x400x1.jpg

    Uncle Ted would occupy the lower right corner... but any ideas for upper left? Who is the most liberal gun owner around here? Northwestcoug?


    Also... welcome BYUMizzou to the board club of realists; a Pat Buchanan For President bumper sticker is in the mail.
    If I am the most liberal gun owner on the forum, that's a badge I can live with!

    I must confess, my political anchors have been in flux for the past couple of years. But they certainly are drifting leftward. When Trump won the nomination, I swore in my wrath I would not vote for another republican until it became a serious party. Now that the senate republicans have began loving deficits, I see no reason whatsoever to vote for them anytime soon. The libertarian party is even less serious than the republicans. So that leaves me with democrats. I am also becoming a softie in my older age. What started as a protest vote for the democratic party may become more permanent. Which is weird, since my previously Canadian wife is trending more rightward (though she's still pretty moderate).

    I guess I am in the red square, a little above the line separating me from the crazies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    How is he not responsible? All bank stocks jumped significantly the day after the election and they’ve stayed up for the most part. Did something else happen on Election Day to cause the jump?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Hahahahahahaha! I was thinking the other day that we need to have a cougarute political graph with Il Pad in the upper right and frank in the lower left, since they are two sides of the same crazy coin:

    d6511429ffe9bbb86a1cf881bdbf356a.481x400x1.jpg

    Uncle Ted would occupy the lower right corner... but any ideas for upper left? Who is the most liberal gun owner around here? Northwestcoug?


    Also... welcome BYUMizzou to the board club of realists; a Pat Buchanan For President bumper sticker is in the mail.
    Frank in lower left?

    I imagine he would be in far upper left as he loves authoritarian control. There is nothing libertarian about Frank.
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