President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[Commando]

Score one for Maxine's Army!

Or America in general. That guy was something else.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Score one for Maxine's Army!

His wife must have gotten that Chick fil-a gig!


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[BlueK]

Or America in general. That guy was something else.

His own staffers going public last week about the insane corruption they've been seeing may have been what finally pushed this over the top.

[Commando]

When his own staffers started going public about the insane level of corruption they were seeing it seems to have finally been too much for him to hang on.

How crazy that it took this long, though? Dude was having his staffers use their personal credit cards to make his travel arrangements and then not reimbursing them? That's like... some Vivint shenanigans or something...

[BlueK]

How crazy that it took this long, though? Dude was having his staffers use their personal credit cards to make his travel arrangements and then not reimbursing them? That's like... some Vivint shenanigans or something...

It's crazy how freaking brazen he was about using his position to personally enrich himself.

[BlueK]

I'll put out some suggestions from the article that I shared.

First and foremost... the article explains that compromise is inevitable, yet will still require respect for both nations’ interests.

Or in other words, the bipartisan Russia fear-mongering here in the US has just got to end. It's gotten beyond stupid. "Russia’s critics present a long bill of requirements to be met before they would relax sanctions or otherwise improve relations. Putin could save time by agreeing to be an American vassal."

1. End the Russia sanctions, they accomplish nothing.
2. Trump and Putin could make a bilateral commitment to stay out of other nations’ elections.
3. The two presidents should agree to mutual forbearance on supporting war (e.g. stop fucking with other countries; Russia w/ Ukraine, the US w/ {insert long list here})
4. Trump should propose that both countries withdraw from Syria.
5. addressing the faltering Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty
6. revisiting the soon-expiring Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty

Those are legitimate issues to take up with them. I just don't think Trump is any way up to the task of doing it responsibly.

[BlueK]

This piece of Trump propaganda is a fun read.

https://amgreatness.com/2018/07/05/a...can-awakening/

[Walter Sobchak]

(although some of our interests are served by staying there to some extent, and I think we should pursue that course).

US govt/pundits/journalists/citizens will always justify blowing up some other country's brown civilians by listing some generic {waves hands} "interests" so that the massacres are more palatable. No argument there!

[creekster]

US govt/pundits/journalists/citizens will always justify blowing up some other country's brown civilians by listing some generic {waves hands} "interests" so that the massacres are more palatable. No argument there!

I'd blow up white ones, too, if it was necessary. Complete isolationism is as easy and as bad an idea as complete interventionism. At this point you are obviously stepping away from defending your original immigration idea, which does not surprise me. I certainly agree, however, that we need to massively recalibrate what is an acceptable level of intervention.

[BlueK]

Interesting op ed from a former Republican, still current conservative. it is an opinion piece, obviously, about the state of the GOP currently, but I think he makes some great points.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.c860307750de

[Walter Sobchak]

Interesting op ed from a former Republican, still current conservative. it is an opinion piece, obviously, about the state of the GOP currently, but I think he makes some great points.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.c860307750de

I wonder if Schmidt sees a straight line between Palin and Trump.

[frank ryan]

Those are legitimate issues to take up with them. I just don't think Trump is any way up to the task of doing it responsibly.

A lot of good stuff on that list, but on point three Russia’s list would be more significant than just Ukraine. They are basically occupying chunks of Georgia, inserted special forces into Montenegro in a bid to assassinate a pro-NATO leader, support/have troops in a breakaway region of Moldova, played a role in helping the Syrian regime use chemical weapons on civilians, aggressively assassinated individuals in the UK and elsewhere, often in a very public manner. I’m sure there is more.

[BlueK]

I wonder if Schmidt sees a straight line between Palin and Trump.

He probably does as he has already admitted Palin was a big mistake.

[BlueK]

A lot of good stuff on that list, but on point three Russia’s list would be more significant than just Ukraine. They are basically occupying chunks of Georgia, inserted special forces into Montenegro in a bid to assassinate a pro-NATO leader, support/have troops in a breakaway region of Moldova, played a role in helping the Syrian regime use chemical weapons on civilians, aggressively assassinated individuals in the UK and elsewhere, often in a very public manner. I’m sure there is more.

--would love to invade the Baltics and bring home those rogues as part of Putin's stated goal of restoring the glory of the CCCP.

[Omaha 680]

Trump to meet with Putin alone. Very unusual.

They're totally going to make out like in that mural.