President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[Walter Sobchak]

bro your convoluted screeds don't make your logic gate approach to ir make any sense

Well, sorry old boy, let me straighten things out for you in the broadest sense possible:

"Global warming is a fraud because it was cold today where I live."

Pretty much sums up the reaction by PAC et al to today's summit. By now it's a conditioned response; they can't help themselves.

I bet Walter’s shtick kills at dinner parties.

I'm available. I'll take any excuse to take the car on a roadie.

[Uncle Ted]

Well, sorry old boy, let me straighten things out for you in the broadest sense possible:

"Global warming is a fraud because it was cold today where I live."

Pretty much sums up the reaction by PAC et al to today's summit. By now it's a conditioned response; they can't help themselves.

Yeah, they can't help themselves... or even think for themselves, it seems. They are just repeating the crap that self proclaimed "patriots" are saying like John O. Brennan:

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You remember the "patriot" John O. Brennan, right?

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The Lie That Got Us In: The Bush Administration Knew There Were No WMDs in Iraq
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The Bush administration exerted significant pressure on the intelligence community to provide justification for the Iraq War. According to John Brennan, who was Deputy Director of the CIA at the time, “we were being asked to do things and to make sure that that justification was out there.”

“At the time there were a lot of concerns that it was being politicized by certain individuals within the administration that wanted to get that intelligence base that would justify going forward with the war,” Brennan told PBS.
[...]

https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2013/03...-wmds-in-iraq/

Yeah, the same John "Yes Man" Brennan who happened to be running the CIA when the russians were spearphishing the dumbass Podesta (and his crack IT department) for his email password.

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But, but, but, what about the other 14 security agencies?!? They all said that the russians were screwing with our 2016 elections and colluding with the trump campaign so the wire tapping of Drumpf was justified!

Clarification: Trump-Russia stories

In stories published April 6, June 2, June 26 and June 29, The Associated Press reported that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies have agreed that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Donald Trump. That assessment was based on information collected by three agencies — the FBI, CIA and National Security Agency — and published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which represents all U.S. intelligence agencies. Not all 17 intelligence agencies were involved in reaching the assessment.

https://apnews.com/6f05b3a81e134568902e015e666726f6

Yeah, just keep telling yourself that if it helps you feel better. And I am sure the GOP'ers will use the same justification when they wiretap the dems candidate's office in an upcoming election.

[tooblue]

Yeah, just keep telling yourself that if it helps you feel better. And I am sure the GOP'ers will use the same justification when they wiretap the dems candidate's office in an upcoming election.

Maybe this will help Ted:

The Politics of Blame Avoidance
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4007281...n_tab_contents

Justice Department affirms no evidence Obama wiretapped Trump
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1BD0UO

Revisiting Trump’s Wiretap Tweets
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/re...iretap-tweets/

Justice Department: No evidence Obama wiretapped Trump Tower
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...vidence-242284

DOJ confirms no evidence supporting Trump claim Obama wiretapped him
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...him/628758001/

Is President Trump vindicated on his claim of 'wires tapped' by Obama?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4019492b9b78

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[BlueK]

Move along, nothing to see here.

#warondrugs

A war, if not Trump, at least his attorney general only wants to expand. Trump has said he wants the police to rough people up more though.

[Uncle Ted]

Maybe this will help Ted:

The Politics of Blame Avoidance
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4007281...n_tab_contents

Justice Department affirms no evidence Obama wiretapped Trump
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1BD0UO

Revisiting Trump’s Wiretap Tweets
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/re...iretap-tweets/

Justice Department: No evidence Obama wiretapped Trump Tower
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...vidence-242284

DOJ confirms no evidence supporting Trump claim Obama wiretapped him
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...him/628758001/

Is President Trump vindicated on his claim of 'wires tapped' by Obama?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4019492b9b78

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Maybe this will help, 2B... Don't be so narrow minded:

FBI monitored former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page on Russia
https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/12/polit...sia/index.html

Exclusive: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/polit...ans/index.html

Of course, that sh*t came from CNN so take it with a good amount of salt. Maybe it would be more palatable reading it from WaPa:

FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...3a7_story.html

[frank ryan]

#warondrugs

A war, if not Trump, at least his attorney general only wants to expand. Trump has said he wants the police to rough people up more though.

They've also reversed Obama era policy and started using more privatized prisons at a federal level.

[PaloAltoCougar]

...

Pretty much sums up the reaction by PAC et al to today's summit. By now it's a conditioned response; they can't help themselves....

Yeah, they can't help themselves... or even think for themselves, it seems. They are just repeating the crap that self proclaimed "patriots" are saying like John O. Brennan:

...

Oh, stop trolling, or we'll need to revisit your beloved independent thinkers like Gary Johnson who's still sitting over in the corner wondering if we should have fought in WWiI. I listened yesterday to a lot of commentary from pretty much every angle, and except for Hannity and Rand Paul, everyone I read or listened to was highly critical of Trump's performance. When Newt Gingrich ("worst mistake of the Trump Presidency") Neil Cavuto (plus several others on Fox), John McCain, Romney, etc. are in agreement with most of the commentary on CNN, MSNBC and countless others in various media, you've come as close to consensus as we'll ever get, but think on!

[tooblue]

Maybe this will help, 2B... Don't be so narrow minded:

FBI monitored former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page on Russia
https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/12/polit...sia/index.html

Exclusive: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/polit...ans/index.html

Of course, that sh*t came from CNN so take it with a good amount of salt. Maybe it would be more palatable reading it from WaPa:

FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...3a7_story.html

If only I was opened minded enough and could see the conspiracy

[Jeff Lebowski]

Oh, stop trolling, or we'll need to revisit your beloved independent thinkers like Gary Johnson who's still sitting over in the corner wondering if we should have fought in WWiI. I listened yesterday to a lot of commentary from pretty much every angle, and except for Hannity and Rand Paul, everyone I read or listened to was highly critical of Trump's performance. When Newt Gingrich ("worst mistake of the Trump Presidency") Neil Cavuto (plus several others on Fox), John McCain, Romney, etc. are in agreement with most of the commentary on CNN, MSNBC and countless others in various media, you've come as close to consensus as we'll ever get, but think on!

Ha. Walter and Uncle Ted are trying to out-crazy my Facebook feed. And succeeding!

[Uncle Ted]

If only I was opened minded enough and could see the conspiracy

Oh, that's were Alex Jones gets his sh*t, CNN and WaPa.... got it!

[Walter Sobchak]

Oh, stop trolling, or we'll need to revisit your beloved independent thinkers like Gary Johnson who's still sitting over in the corner wondering if we should have fought in WWiI. I listened yesterday to a lot of commentary from pretty much every angle, and except for Hannity and Rand Paul, everyone I read or listened to was highly critical of Trump's performance. When Newt Gingrich ("worst mistake of the Trump Presidency") Neil Cavuto (plus several others on Fox), John McCain, Romney, etc. are in agreement with most of the commentary on CNN, MSNBC and countless others in various media, you've come as close to consensus as we'll ever get, but think on!

Rand Paul is right.

Rand Paul: "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Has Gone Over The Top And People Have Lost The Big Picture

Like I said... Global Warming is a hoax because it is cold today where I live.

[Uncle Ted]

Oh, stop trolling, or we'll need to revisit your beloved independent thinkers like Gary Johnson who's still sitting over in the corner wondering if we should have fought in WWiI. I listened yesterday to a lot of commentary from pretty much every angle, and except for Hannity and Rand Paul, everyone I read or listened to was highly critical of Trump's performance. When Newt Gingrich ("worst mistake of the Trump Presidency") Neil Cavuto (plus several others on Fox), John McCain, Romney, etc. are in agreement with most of the commentary on CNN, MSNBC and countless others in various media, you've come as close to consensus as we'll ever get, but think on!

Oh, you are looking for opinion, are you? OK...

If the Trump/Putin Press Conference Shocked You, You're Not Paying Attention

Disgraceful. Embarrassing. A complete lack of grasp of the situation.

Such were the observations about President Trump’s performance at the joint press conference with Vladimir Putin. Everyone is free to like or dislike the way Trump navigates the world, but I would suggest those descriptions are more suited to the swarm of wild overreaction.

It has become a familiar rhythm for the President to do or say something, only to be attacked reflexively by his harshest opponents. But the Monday festival of totally wrongheaded analysis ensnared even the occasionally sympathetic.

One could expect the bug-eyed calls for impeachment, and the media chorus that Trump had somehow committed some grave offense against American honor. But the triangulation necessary to understand this episode was apparently too much heavy lifting for even some occasional supporters.

So, I’ll make it easy. If you were expecting Donald Trump to wag a finger at Putin at that lectern in Helsinki, throwing down an ultimatum to never, ever mess with our elections again, that was enormously foolish.

Not because it would be undeserved. Because it would have sprouted more negatives than positives.

Imagine for a moment that the President had told Putin where to stuff that souvenir World Cup soccer ball. The media would have briefly approved, critics might have issued momentary grudging appreciation, and John Brennan might have put down the voodoo doll. Meanwhile, the layer of ice that would have encased the relationship would shut the door on things Trump actually wants to achieve, goals a little more lasting than kicking Putin in the shins in public.

He would like to cooperate with Russia in fighting ISIS. He would like to loosen the buddy relationship with Assad in Syria. He might even seek to wheedle a Russian exit from Crimea. And being Donald Trump, he would surely like to see if there are trade deals to be gleaned from improved relations.

One might suggest that those are noble, but wouldn’t he also like to dissuade Russia from launching cyberattacks into our political process? I’m sure he would. He may well have made that clear behind closed doors over Finnish cuisine. But let’s spend a moment examining the source of all of this sudden hand-wringing.

How many people condemning Trump for coddling Putin raised the slightest eyebrow at the Barack Obama open mic wink to the Russians that he would have “more flexibility” after the 2012 election?

And how many of these sudden warriors for election purity are on the record fighting for voter ID and other laws which protect us from the real-life threat of illegal voting?

From the shrill retorts Monday afternoon, you would think Trump had delivered our nuclear codes to the GRU. The main thrust of the vilifications was: 1) We should be really tough on bad countries, and 2) Russia is a really bad country.

Fair points, but please. We are downright chummy with China, the largest, most evil remaining Communist dictatorship on the planet. And it’s not as though Obama laid down an eight-year legacy of toughness versus Russia, or anyone else. The opportunistic gasps at Trump’s comments are born of a different passion: profound distaste for him.

That distaste ranged from the predictable howls of the haters to the more nuanced (but still sharp) revulsion of establishment elitists, haughty status-quo devotees and the usual suspects for whom Trump has always been too brash, too unmannerly, too, well, Trumplike.

Their hyperventilations will do little to gin up the backlash they seek. The online taunts were immediate, along the lines of “Hey, MAGA people, where’s that Trump strength you people love so much?”

The answer is simple. The strength his base expects every day is not some empty political theater designed to win praise from CNN. There is only one battle that matters in the short term, and that is the attack on his presidency from the Mueller probe and the weaponized subsets of the FBI and Department of Justice.

The slightest hint of a Trump denunciation of Russian meddling would have been instantly, virally blasted around the universe as a confession that his election was indeed illegitimate. The hounds baying for his demise gleefully conflate Russians hacking Democrat emails with the Trump campaign conspiring to deny Hillary Clinton her rightful victory. They know that an underinformed public will lap up that narrative if they can hammer it forcefully enough.

We will never know the exact language Trump may use to address past meddling or discourage it in the future. But anyone who was expecting some high-drama public showdown in Helsinki is ignorant of what Trump seeks to do long-term with Russia, and is oblivious to the baseball bat he would have handed his enemies to beat his brains in.

That is excusable among the general public. But for those who pay attention to these matters for a living, the blindness is willful.

https://townhall.com/columnists/markdavis/2018/07/17/if-the-trumpputin-press-conference-shocked-you-youre-not-paying-attention-

But don't take Drumpf's word that it is good to have talks with the Russians...

[tooblue]

Oh, that's were Alex Jones gets his sh*t, CNN and WaPa.... got it!

Is it true that Ted Nugent shat his pants in order to fail his physical and dodge the draft ... and that he is "allegedly" a pedophile, and that he slept with underage girls and wrote a song about it? But that doesn't matter.

THEY WIRETAPPED HIM!

[Uncle Ted]

Rand Paul is right.

Rand Paul: "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Has Gone Over The Top And People Have Lost The Big Picture

Like I said... Global Warming is a hoax because it is cold today where I live.

"What I would say is I don't think anybody doubts that the Russians got involved with leaking e-mail and hacking into e-mail. But there is a question of whether or not the election was legitimate and all of this is a sideways way for those on the left to try to delegitimize Trump and to say he didn’t really win the election. When the reality of the election was really about Hillary Clinton being unfit for office, being a dishonest person who enriched, her and her husband enriched themselves at taxpayers’ expense, and at the expense of receiving money from people like the sultan of Brunei and Saudi Arabia."

Amen, Bro. Paul.

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[tooblue]

Amen, Bro. Paul.

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