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"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostFor asylum that is correct. They have to show up to apply for that. Stupid, right?"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostShow up where? To the borders or can they seek asylum with an local US embassy in their own county?
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...consulate.html
Asylum is a form of legal protection available to certain people who cannot or would not feel safe if they tried to live in their home country, because of past persecution or the danger of future persecution based on their race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.
Unfortunately, U.S. embassies and consulates cannot process requests for this form of protection because, under U.S. law, asylum seekers can apply only if they are physically present in the United States (or at least at a U.S. border or other point of entry).Last edited by BlueK; 06-19-2018, 12:27 PM.
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Originally posted by Commando View PostIt's not the laws that are the problem. It's the use of prosecutorial discretion to make things as difficult as possible for asylum seekers that is the problem. It's as though your local police suddenly decided to fill the jails and deny bond to people going 37 in a 35 and said SORRY THAT'S THE LAW MAYBE THE DEMOCRATS SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE THIS LAW.
Df_seQwVMAAE2Hb.jpgLast edited by Uncle Ted; 06-19-2018, 12:44 PM."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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So the GOP House member who heads the National Republican Congressional Committee tasked with working to keep the GOP majority thinks this current border family separation policy is going to cost the Republicans the majority. Given that it's extremely unpopular among independents and it will be decided in swing districts, it would seem he has a good point.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/polit...ion/index.html
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Tucker Carlson makes a good point:
https://twitter.com/tuckercarlson/st...066626561?s=21">Embedded Tweet
"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by snowcat View PostCan someone please get entry level employees to Utah. I am going through a large expansion to my manufacturing facility but the labor pool is non-existent. Every business owner I know is struggling for labor. Wages are rising everywhere but it does not matter, there is nobody to hire.
The Republican party's current war on immigration is about to drive me out of the party. Hopefully the bright light being shown on the despicable practices happening with families now will get something to change."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
https://www.facebook.com/travelgov/v...type=2&theater
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I think this entire episode (maybe even the Trump presidency) is a result of lack of respect for process. The democrats ignored the proper process but no one squawked too much because we all felt comfy and warm with the result. Trump is exploiting the process, forcing the issue, and we are all aghast, even though it is exactly what the law specifies, even if prosecutorial discretion allows us to ignore the law when convenient.
Prosecutorial discretion is no way to govern. Broad and vague powers allowed to exist in the executive are never a good idea, even if they are not abused or misused. Trump is wrong for pursuing this particular approach, IMO, but we should not let that blind us from the fact that we have lost our way on these issues. The laws should reflect what we want, not what the current prosecuting authority thinks makes the most sense.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostI think this entire episode (maybe even the Trump presidency) is a result of lack of respect for process. The democrats ignored the proper process but no one squawked too much because we all felt comfy and warm with the result. Trump is exploiting the process, forcing the issue, and we are all aghast, even though it is exactly what the law specifies, even if prosecutorial discretion allows us to ignore the law when convenient.
Prosecutorial discretion is no way to govern. Broad and vague powers allowed to exist in the executive are never a good idea, even if they are not abused or misused. Trump is wrong for pursuing this particular approach, IMO, but we should not let that blind us from the fact that we have lost our way on these issues. The laws should reflect what we want, not what the current prosecuting authority thinks makes the most sense.
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Originally posted by Maximus View Posti mean most people didnt think a president would want thousands of kis put in cages. that is a reasonable assumption. true we should change the, but so many extremists in the house makes it hard to do anything. they tried in 2013.
Creekster makes valid points, and rolling back this discretion is a long time in coming."Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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