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Originally posted by falafel View PostWell, aren't they speculating? I've seen a bunch of stories, counting the exact number of days since she was seen in public, etc. I don't see any references to FAKE NEWS or the failing New York Times. No doubt Melania takes her social media cues from DJT, but I'm not sure this is evidence he's got his thumbs on her blackberry.Last edited by BlueK; 05-31-2018, 11:19 AM.
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Originally posted by Maximus View Postwell trump can certainly change his mind in 12 hours, right?Last edited by BlueK; 05-31-2018, 11:32 AM.
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Forgot to post the link. Definitely fits Trump’s tweeting style.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffp...68a94e2be9/amp
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You know, it's times like this I wonder if those who couldn't pull the lever for Killary have rethought that decision."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostYou know, it's times like this I wonder if those who couldn't pull the lever for Killary have rethought that decision.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostUnder the current electoral system only those in a few states have a chance to turn the election with their vote. But I can't imagine voting for any republican right now for pretty much almost any office because of how they've given in to him."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostI understand your practical argument. I'm more interested in the philosophical one. As in, it's likely Clinton would have been a more conservative (as was previously defined before 2016) president than Trump.
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This is a year old now, but I don't recall seeing it before now - and in light of the Rosanne stuff, it seems relevant for today. Nothing has changed. If anything, we're just seeing more of the same and cementing patterns of response.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-trump/521472/
Though aimed at blue-state sophisticates, these shows are an unintended but powerful form of propaganda for conservatives. When Republicans see these harsh jokes—which echo down through the morning news shows and the chattering day’s worth of viral clips, along with those of Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, and Seth Meyers—they don’t just see a handful of comics mocking them. They see HBO, Comedy Central, TBS, ABC, CBS, and NBC. In other words, they see exactly what Donald Trump has taught them: that the entire media landscape loathes them, their values, their family, and their religion. It is hardly a reach for them to further imagine that the legitimate news shows on these channels are run by similarly partisan players—nor is it at all illogical. No wonder so many of Trump’s followers are inclined to believe only the things that he or his spokespeople tell them directly—everyone else on the tube thinks they’re a bunch of trailer-park, Oxy-snorting half-wits who divide their time between retweeting Alex Jones fantasies and ironing their Klan hoods.
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Originally posted by Eddie View PostThis is a year old now, but I don't recall seeing it before now - and in light of the Rosanne stuff, it seems relevant for today. Nothing has changed. If anything, we're just seeing more of the same and cementing patterns of response.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-trump/521472/Last edited by BlueK; 05-31-2018, 12:55 PM.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostThe article does make a good point. But I think the backlash is coming mostly from older folks in rural areas with lower levels of education. Wealthier republicans in the cities and suburbs I don't think are getting as easily offended by late night comedy. And I think this is evidenced by the fact that Romney did better than Trump did in those types of districts.
I also think that as time goes by, it gets old for all Republicans/Conservatives - regardless of education or socioeconomic status. And even though they don't necessarily like him, they dislike the sense of being judged by association.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostTrue. But this is one of the only issues he hasn't really flip flopped on in the last 30 years. He's never been a fan of free trade. No matter what those around him try to do, he always seems to come back to his dopey tariff ideas. Also, at this point almost all of the free traders who were trying to turn him on this issue have long left the White House.
But then, one of his Wharton profs said repeatedly that, "Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had."
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Originally posted by Eddie View PostWell sure, but that's his base - no? The uneducated deplorables?
I also think that as time goes by, it gets old for all Republicans/Conservatives - regardless of education or socioeconomic status. And even though they don't necessarily like him, they dislike the sense of being judged by association.Last edited by BlueK; 05-31-2018, 02:01 PM.
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Here's a fun article on MSNBC that explains why progressives are a little frustrated with MSNBC since that channel has veered centrist to appeal to never-Trump Republicans and libertarians. There are several shows on there right now that I like.
https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...ves-anti-trump
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whats the point of congress anymore?
Republicans worry that Trump’s protectionist trade policies could undermine all that and threaten a healthy economy before the midterm elections. Yet House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) have shown no interest in passing legislation to block Trump’s tariffs or require congressional approval, a move that would essentially bring Capitol Hill to a standstill.
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