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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockett View Post
    The NYT is the National Enquirer or TMZ now?

    I have no doubt Trump was unfaithful, but this catching Trump in a lie about an extramarital affair is stupid. Did the woman report to Trump? Was the woman an intern? Did he lie under oath in a court of law about it? If not, then do some real reporting, NYT. I thought what goes on between consenting adults in the bedroom is supposed to private.
    It's unworthy of a major headline or extended commentary, but it seems fair to report something that refutes false statements made repeatedly by the President and his surrogates. If a President declares emphatically and publicly, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!", and if he is lying, I don't have a problem with any news outlet that contradicts him, whether he was under oath or not.

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    Trump lies again. Yawn...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Trump lies again. Yawn...
    Ha, perhaps the best argument for not reporting the story. Dog bites man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockett View Post
    The NYT is the National Enquirer or TMZ now?

    I have no doubt Trump was unfaithful, but this catching Trump in a lie about an extramarital affair is stupid. Did the woman report to Trump? Was the woman an intern? Did he lie under oath in a court of law about it? If not, then do some real reporting, NYT. I thought what goes on between consenting adults in the bedroom is supposed to private.
    Really? I mean, we are talking about the man that respects women more than anyone else on the planet.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    Really? I mean, we are talking about the man that respects women more than anyone else on the planet.
    That's why he doesn't kiss and tell. And pays large sums of money so she won't tell either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Or the response is "what about Clinton?".
    Actually, this is the correct MAGA response:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockett View Post
    The NYT is the National Enquirer or TMZ now?

    I have no doubt Trump was unfaithful, but this catching Trump in a lie about an extramarital affair is stupid. Did the woman report to Trump? Was the woman an intern? Did he lie under oath in a court of law about it? If not, then do some real reporting, NYT. I thought what goes on between consenting adults in the bedroom is supposed to private.
    If donnie had the courage to testify under oath it would probably require a statistician to keep track of all his lies. You really go the extra mile to protect the orange-tinged snowflake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    It's unworthy of a major headline or extended commentary, but it seems fair to report something that refutes false statements made repeatedly by the President and his surrogates. If a President declares emphatically and publicly, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!", and if he is lying, I don't have a problem with any news outlet that contradicts him, whether he was under oath or not.
    Do you think President Clinton should have been impeached? Yes or no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Do you think President Clinton should have been impeached? Yes or no.
    Yeah, PAC. WHAT ABOUT CLINTON?!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Yeah, PAC. WHAT ABOUT CLINTON?!!!
    Dude, he brought it up. But whatever man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Do you think President Clinton should have been impeached? Yes or no.
    Nyet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockett View Post
    The NYT is the National Enquirer or TMZ now?

    I have no doubt Trump was unfaithful, but this catching Trump in a lie about an extramarital affair is stupid. Did the woman report to Trump? Was the woman an intern? Did he lie under oath in a court of law about it? If not, then do some real reporting, NYT. I thought what goes on between consenting adults in the bedroom is supposed to private.
    you are truly the biggest idiot in the entire fucking world
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    It looks like Optima ... as a font it is quite similar to the font the church uses in it's branding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Do you think President Clinton should have been impeached? Yes or no.
    Technically he WAS impeached, he just wasn't convicted.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    Yes, Clinton should have been kicked out of office. He was a groper and used his power to cooerce women into having sex with him. The Dems should never have him or his evil wife on the stage again.

    Ditto for Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    Yes, Clinton should have been kicked out of office. He was a groper and used his power to cooerce women into having sex with him. The Dems should never have him or his evil wife on the stage again.

    Ditto for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moliere View Post
    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    Yes, Clinton should have been kicked out of office. He was a groper and used his power to cooerce women into having sex with him. The Dems should never have him or his evil wife on the stage again.

    Ditto for Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    Yes, Clinton should have been kicked out of office. He was a groper and used his power to cooerce women into having sex with him. The Dems should never have him or his evil wife on the stage again.

    Ditto for Trump.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Clinton debased the office and further dulled the nation's moral sense, but I remain conflicted as to whether that was (or should be) an impeachable offense (perhaps I need a spine transplant). Should any President who has an adulterous affair while in office be impeached? (Just thinking about this--no need to respond to this brief threadjack.)

    In other news, I can't imagine any President in history referring to himself as "your favorite President," except in total jest, which Trump clearly was not. What an extraordinary doofus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    you are truly the biggest idiot in the entire fucking world
    bro, you need to work on your emotional iq

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockett View Post
    bro, you need to work on your emotional iq
    If you think a President having an extramarital affair with a playboy model, paying her hush money, lying about it over and over again, only to have tape of him discussing details discovered after his disgraced ex-lawyer was busted for breaking the law isn't newsworthy something is not right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    Clinton debased the office and further dulled the nation's moral sense, but I remain conflicted as to whether that was (or should be) an impeachable offense (perhaps I need a spine transplant). Should any President who has an adulterous affair while in office be impeached? (Just thinking about this--no need to respond to this brief threadjack.)

    In other news, I can't imagine any President in history referring to himself as "your favorite President," except in total jest, which Trump clearly was not. What an extraordinary doofus.
    Adultery in office, impeachable? Obviously that depends.

    After the truth came out, Clinton should have had the common decency to resign, knowing full well that he would have fired anybody below him for doing the same thing. But he didn't, and then lied under oath. Kick him out! That the "Women's Movement" all rolled over was despicable. I remember thinking, "Hold on, I've been going to all this awareness training and this clearly violates all the rules, but nothing? What the hell?" And Hillary is even worse. Political expediency.

    Had Clinton resigned or been kicked out, we would have no Trump today. No doubt the Christian Right is saying what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Dems standing behind Clinton after his heinous debasement of the office allows them to stand being this asshole. So, in a weird way, what goes around comes around for Evil Hillary.

    Bill Clinton leads directly to Doofus Donald Trump, your favorite President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    Adultery in office, impeachable? Obviously that depends.

    After the truth came out, Clinton should have had the common decency to resign, knowing full well that he would have fired anybody below him for doing the same thing. But he didn't, and then lied under oath. Kick him out! That the "Women's Movement" all rolled over was despicable. I remember thinking, "Hold on, I've been going to all this awareness training and this clearly violates all the rules, but nothing? What the hell?" And Hillary is even worse. Political expediency.

    Had Clinton resigned or been kicked out, we would have no Trump today. No doubt the Christian Right is saying what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Dems standing behind Clinton after his heinous debasement of the office allows them to stand being this asshole. So, in a weird way, what goes around comes around for Evil Hillary.

    Bill Clinton leads directly to Doofus Donald Trump, your favorite President.

    I don't disagree strongly with anything you've written, but I'm curious where you'd draw the line given your "it depends" comment concerning adultery--we can save that discussion for a tailgate [no pun intended!] conversation. I'm actually bothered by my own vacillation on this, and yet I see a difference between lying under oath about whether I had been fellated by a subordinate [note to Mrs. PAC: I swear I've never been!] versus whether I've committed a genuine crime or betrayed the country.

    And yeah, the way Hillary jumped on all of Bill's accusers was grotesquely inappropriate. It was a bit like Lance Armstrong's destructive comments about his accusers.

    Perhaps my biggest problem with Clinton is reflected in my discussion with a mentor/retired partner at my first firm. Great guy, despite his nearly blind devotion to the Democratic Party. When rumors of Monica first started swirling, his initial comment was uttered with grave seriousness: "If this is true, he will have to resign." But over the ensuing weeks/months, he changed his mind, essentially concluding, "Yeah, that was a bad thing but we'll give him a pass on that." Clinton truly lowered the bar on presidential conduct. If he had genuinely begged forgiveness and resigned the office, noting the office was deserving of only the highest standards of personal conduct, we'd certainly be much better off. But yes, we now have Orange Julius. I'd like to think we deserve better, but perhaps we don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Yeah, PAC. WHAT ABOUT CLINTON?!!!
    bump.
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    I don’t like Trump at all, didn’t vote for him and will vote against him in 2020, but I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that I find satisfaction in the fact the Hillary lost to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    I don't disagree strongly with anything you've written, but I'm curious where you'd draw the line given your "it depends" comment concerning adultery--we can save that discussion for a tailgate [no pun intended!] conversation. I'm actually bothered by my own vacillation on this, and yet I see a difference between lying under oath about whether I had been fellated by a subordinate [note to Mrs. PAC: I swear I've never been!] versus whether I've committed a genuine crime or betrayed the country.

    And yeah, the way Hillary jumped on all of Bill's accusers was grotesquely inappropriate. It was a bit like Lance Armstrong's destructive comments about his accusers.

    Perhaps my biggest problem with Clinton is reflected in my discussion with a mentor/retired partner at my first firm. Great guy, despite his nearly blind devotion to the Democratic Party. When rumors of Monica first started swirling, his initial comment was uttered with grave seriousness: "If this is true, he will have to resign." But over the ensuing weeks/months, he changed his mind, essentially concluding, "Yeah, that was a bad thing but we'll give him a pass on that." Clinton truly lowered the bar on presidential conduct. If he had genuinely begged forgiveness and resigned the office, noting the office was deserving of only the highest standards of personal conduct, we'd certainly be much better off. But yes, we now have Orange Julius. I'd like to think we deserve better, but perhaps we don't.
    This part of your statement is something I have wondered for a long time.

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