President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[frank ryan]

This would certainly fit the definition of collusion.

http://www.gq.com/story/jared-kushne...-investigation

[BlueK]

This would certainly fit the definition of collusion.

http://www.gq.com/story/jared-kushne...-investigation

Not a big deal because we're already into the "collusion is ok" defense.

[Walter Sobchak]

Name the publication wherein you can find the article with this title:

"Soviet Veteran Who Met With Trump Jr. Is a Master of the Dark Arts"

a) The NY Times or b) The Quibbler?

[PaloAltoCougar]

It bothers me that our country is being led by the Trump family which increasingly appears to be a bunch of doofus stumblebums. Don Jr. has retreated steadily from his original position concerning Russian involvement, but rather than be completely forthcoming, his pattern is to offer a lie or excuse that merely points journalists in the direction of where to dig next (“No Russian contacts with our campaign! Lies! Disgusting!” … “Okay, then no contacts directly with me!” “Well, I never met with Russians!” “Okay, but no information was obtained!” etc.). It now looks like Kushner is subtly trying to throw Donnie under the bus, while both are, for now, steadfastly insisting the Donald never knew of any meeting. Undoubtedly journalists are working on that claim right now.

It’s defies reason to believe that Drumpf wasn’t aware of the meeting with Russians. I think he knew and was very excited about it. The meeting occurred in Trump Tower while Drumpf was there, though perhaps on a different floor. Does anyone believe Don Jr. and Jared didn’t excitedly tell Dad, “Hey, guess who we’re meeting with tomorrow?” Consider the fact that after Jr. had excitedly arranged the meeting, but hours before the meeting took place, Dad announced a major speech, “We’re going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the Clintons.”

But for now the Trump family will continue to insist that Trump was shocked, SHOCKED!, to learn there was a meeting going on in his establishment. If Trump, Merkel, Putin, Xi and Un find themselves around a poker table, who would be the first one out?

[Omaha 680]

If Trump, Merkel, Putin, Xi and Un find themselves around a poker table, who would be the first one out?

Only one of those people actually OWNS casinos, man. The house ALWAYS wins!

Doofus Stumblebums is a perfect description of this administration. It's probably for the best as I don't think they will do any real damage if they can manage not to get into a war accidentally.

[Northwestcoug]

But for now the Trump family will continue to insist that Trump was shocked, SHOCKED!, to learn there was a meeting going on in his establishment. If Trump, Merkel, Putin, Xi and Un find themselves around a poker table, who would be the first one out?

Too late. Dad has already changed his tune:

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Why, it would be a crime not to collide with the Russians!

[Topper]

Only one of those people actually OWNS casinos, man. The house ALWAYS wins!

Doofus Stumblebums is a perfect description of this administration. It's probably for the best as I don't think they will do any real damage if they can manage not to get into a war accidentally.

That may be difficult to do with McCain, Graham and Shumer chomping at the bit to go to war with Russia. It seems Congress isn't happy without funding a war somewhere.

[Donuthole]

That may be difficult to do with McCain, Graham and Shumer chomping at the bit to go to war with Russia. It seems Congress isn't happy without funding a war somewhere.

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[BlueK]

I think it was 98-2. And he should veto it, unapologetically.

<http://buchanan.org/blog/russia-bait...-haters-127344>

That's fine. But he should have to defend that policy shift to Congress and to the country.

[frank ryan]

That may be difficult to do with McCain, Graham and Shumer chomping at the bit to go to war with Russia. It seems Congress isn't happy without funding a war somewhere.

No one is chomping at the bit to get into a war with Russia.

[Walter Sobchak]

No one is chomping at the bit to get into a war with Russia.

You sure about that?

Dems Continue to Rehabilitate and Unify With Bush-Era Neocons

ONE OF THE most under-discussed yet consequential changes in the American political landscape is the reunion between the Democratic Party and the country’s most extreme and discredited neocons. While the rise of Donald Trump, whom neocons loathe, has accelerated this realignment, it began long before the ascension of Trump and is driven by far more common beliefs than contempt for the current president.

A newly formed and, by all appearances, well-funded national security advocacy group, devoted to more hawkish U.S. policies toward Russia and other adversaries, provides the most vivid evidence yet of this alliance. Calling itself the Alliance for Securing Democracy, the group describes itself as “a bipartisan, transatlantic initiative” that “will develop comprehensive strategies to defend against, deter, and raise the costs on Russian and other state actors’ efforts to undermine democracy and democratic institutions,” and also “will work to publicly document and expose Vladimir Putin’s ongoing efforts to subvert democracy in the United States and Europe.”

It is, in fact, the ultimate union of mainstream Democratic foreign policy officials and the world’s most militant, and militaristic, neocons. The group is led by two longtime Washington foreign policy hands, one from the establishment Democratic wing and the other a key figure among leading GOP neocons.

[...]

When it came time for Democrats to elevate Putin and Russia into a major theme of the 2016 campaign, and now that their hawkishness toward Moscow is their go-to weapon for attacking Trump, neocons have become their natural ideological allies.

The song Democrats are now singing about Russia and Putin is one the neocons wrote many years ago, and all of the accompanying rhetorical tactics — accusing those who seek better relations with Moscow of being Putin’s stooges, unpatriotic, of suspect loyalties, etc. — are the ones that have defined the neocons smear campaigns for decades.

The union of Democrats and neocons is far more than a temporary marriage of convenience designed to bring down a common enemy. As this new policy group illustrates, the union is grounded in widespread ideological agreement on a broad array of foreign policy debates: from Israel to Syria to the Gulf States to Ukraine to Russia.

[...]

THE IMPLICATIONS OF this reunion are profound and long-term. Neocons have done far more damage to the U.S., and the world, than any other single group — by a good margin. They were the architects of the invasion of Iraq and the lies that accompanied it, the worldwide torture regime instituted after 9/11, and the general political climate that equated dissent with treason.

With the full-scale discrediting and collapse of the Bush presidency, these war-loving neocons found themselves marginalized, without any constituency in either party. They were radioactive, confined to speaking at extremist conferences and working with fringe organizations.

All of that has changed, thanks to the eagerness of Democrats to embrace them, form alliances with them, and thus rehabilitate their reputations and resurrect their power and influence. That leading Democratic Party foreign policy officials are willing to form new Beltway advocacy groups in collaboration with Bill Kristol, Mike Rogers, and Mike Chertoff, join arms with those who caused the invasion of Iraq and tried to launch a bombing campaign against Tehran, has repercussions that will easily survive the Trump presidency.

Perhaps the most notable fact about the current posture of the establishment wing of the Democratic Party is that one of their favorite, most beloved, and most cited pundits is the same neocon who wrote George W. Bush’s oppressive, bullying and deceitful speeches in 2002 and 2003 about Iraq and the war on terror, and who has churned out some of the most hateful, inflammatory rhetoric over the last decade about Palestinians, immigrants, and Muslims. That Bush propagandist, David Frum, is regularly feted on MSNBC’s liberal programs, has been hired by The Atlantic (where he writes warnings about authoritarianism even though he’s only qualified to write manuals for its implementation), and is treated like a wise and honored statesman by leading Democratic Party organs.

[myboynoah]

So we find out yet another person was in that meeting with DonJr. I'm starting to feel left out.

[BlueK]

So we find out yet another person was in that meeting with DonJr. I'm starting to feel left out.

Fox is probably regretting having don jr interviewed by hannity because now even their viewers are going to know the Trump's are lying about all things Russia.

[frank ryan]

Trump and his boss Putin had another, previously undisclosed meeting at the G20 summit. Business as usual!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40651502

[falafel]

Too late. Dad has already changed his tune:

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Why, it would be a crime not to collide with the Russians!

See! I told you!