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Originally posted by Bo Diddley View PostI disagree. It's simply a function of one political party controlling the Senate and Executive. I think the founders foresaw these types of stand-offs.Last edited by BlueK; 01-17-2019, 05:32 PM.
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White House tries to minimize shutdown’s effects as talks completely break down
More cowardly moves. If you are intent on shutting down the government, then shut it down and let people feel the consequences. Give Americans some skin in this game. The Dump is too afraid to do so.
Senior White House officials receive frequent updates on how many Transportation Security Administration staffers are calling in sick to work, aware that major delays at airports could prompt a huge backlash.
To try to contain other fallout, thousands of federal workers are being rushed back to work, almost always without pay, to prevent the shutdown from having a cascading effect on the economy and the United States’ standing in the world.
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And some agencies have had to deal with small-scale rebellions among the employees they are requiring to continue showing up for work. These employees have recently refused to put any work-related travel expenses on their personal credit cards, unsure when they will be repaid. Other agencies are ordering employees to return to work, without pay, to minimize the shutdown’s impact on a range of industries, including agriculture firms, ranchers, loggers, bankers and fishing companies.
The White House and federal agencies have received a blizzard of requests for help, from lawmakers and industry groups, and Trump has remarked that he thinks his senior staff and Cabinet members are doing a good job blunting the impact.
“People are very impressed with how well government is working with the circumstances that we’re under,” he said to surrogates in a call Tuesday afternoon. “We’re working very hard to make sure that happens.”Last edited by myboynoah; 01-17-2019, 05:25 PM.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Originally posted by myboynoah View PostWhite House tries to minimize shutdown’s effects as talks completely break down
More cowardly moves. If you are intent on shutting down the government, then shut it down and let people feel the consequences. Give Americans some skin in this game. The Dump is too afraid to do so.
This is probably a good exercise to figure out who is really necessary.
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Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostThe truth is that things will probably be just fine without at least half of these federal employees staying home.
This is probably a good exercise to figure out who is really necessary.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostThey didn't foresee political parties and didn't write the Senate rules that allow the majority leader to ignore the majority within his own branch of the government, nor did they intend for the leader of the Senate and House to just roll over and allow the President to become their boss. Same nonsense we've seen from McConnell and Ryan for the last two years. They should have gotten a lot more good stuff done but for the most part were too scared to pass anything. But we'll see how it shakes out. IMO, part of it has already shaken out, in the form of the results of the last election.
This might be the Libertarian in me, but as a general rule, I prefer less legislation to more.
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostSounds like you pulled that figure out of your ass. Laying off half the federal work force would do wonders for the economy!"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostThe truth is that things will probably be just fine without at least half of these federal employees staying home.
This is probably a good exercise to figure out who is really necessary."You interns are like swallows. You shit all over my patients for six weeks and then fly off."
"Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."
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Originally posted by Bo Diddley View PostWell the wrote about them in the Federalist papers, so I don't see how the didn't forsee the possibility at the very least. I'm not familiar with any evidence one way or the other how they felt about congress writing rules for how they operate. The power is still vested within that institution to rewrite those rules as they see fit. Perhaps the rub of the current situation will give them the will to seek a better way of conducting business.
This might be the Libertarian in me, but as a general rule, I prefer less legislation to more.
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostParties weren't addressed in the constituon was written. The Federalist papers represent the opinions of just a few important people.
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LOLz... Drumpf canceled the Dems' European vacation:
I guess they didn't get the memo about the government being shutdown."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostThe truth is that things will probably be just fine without at least half of these federal employees staying home.
This is probably a good exercise to figure out who is really necessary.
Surprise! We need the federal government.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostLOLz... Drumpf canceled the Dems' European vacation:Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Originally posted by Commando View PostGood one.
I'm confident Obama, Romney, George W., or Ross Perot would have at least treated them to a meal. I mean here they are one of the only sports teams to actually show up and this is what they get? Big Macs and Whoppers. I'm starting to think the Warriors knew something we didn't.
Shortly before 1 p.m., White House officials gathered the team in the State Dining Room, at the opposite end of the South Hall from the East Room, where the ceremony would be held.
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The program called for no food to be served
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The day cost Alabama at least $85,000 -- including $79,000 for the Delta charter round-trip flight from Tuscaloosa to Reagan National Airport, $1,700 for four charter buses in Washington and $3,300 for box lunches (including a few extra sandwiches; this was, after all, a football team) delivered by Chick-fil-A to the team after the visit.
Obama made them flip the bill for their Chick-fil-A... what a dork."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by myboynoah View PostYeah, that's why the White House keeps bringing people back off furlough at no pay to keep things running. Let it go on longer and you'll see more and more people ordered back to work because surprise, we need them.
Surprise! We need the federal government.
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