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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    He is all about himself. Even if he leaves our economy in shambles, he will come out, like all presidents before him, much richer than when he entered. Nothing builds wealth like success in politics.
    Previous presidents waited until they were out of office to make money off of their presidential tenure, and thus violated neither the norms nor rules of presidential conduct. Trump violates both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    A thought during my morning run: What if, a few days before Obama's inauguration, the Ritz-Carlton hotel chain offered him a perpetual 10% royalty in exchange for allowing them to rebrand their luxury resort chain, "Obama." He wouldn't have to do any work, although other Obama family members could work for the new chain. And Obama would vacation at various Obama-branded resorts and hold meetings with world leaders there (paid for by the government), and the feds would pick up the Secret Service tab for his family members' travel to the opening of other Obama resorts. Would Hannity have a problem with that? How does that differ from what Trump is doing?
    Good thought. Hannity would have suffered a brain aneurysm had Obama did this. And it doesn't seem like it differs much from what Trump is doing. But we all know Hillary would be doing much worse, amirite Ted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    A thought during my morning run: What if, a few days before Obama's inauguration, the Ritz-Carlton hotel chain offered him a perpetual 10% royalty in exchange for allowing them to rebrand their luxury resort chain, "Obama." He wouldn't have to do any work, although other Obama family members could work for the new chain. And Obama would vacation at various Obama-branded resorts and hold meetings with world leaders there (paid for by the government), and the feds would pick up the Secret Service tab for his family members' travel to the opening of other Obama resorts. Would Hannity have a problem with that? How does that differ from what Trump is doing?
    So this is sort of a speculative #whataboutobama?
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    Quote Originally Posted by falafel View Post
    So this is sort of a speculative #whataboutobama?
    #whatifobama
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    #whatifobama
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    #whatifobama
    I'll do you one better: Why is Obama?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Yeah, we want tariffs and no free trade with these countries, dammit! Wait, what?
    You're surprised Trump once again said something that makes no sense? He's clearly dumber than a pile of rocks on topics like trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by All-American View Post
    In fairness, the lib triggering IS pretty fun.
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    So funny as he tanks our economy.
    frank can't help himself at this point.

    I had several FB friends sound off last week that Trump admin policies caused the recent celebrity suicides. We have scarcely plumbed the depths of lib's irrationality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    frank can't help himself at this point.

    I had several FB friends sound off last week that Trump admin policies caused the recent celebrity suicides. We have scarcely plumbed the depths of lib's irrationality.
    This might be a good thing... We don't want those crazies getting guns and shooting up schools or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    frank can't help himself at this point.

    I had several FB friends sound off last week that Trump admin policies caused the recent celebrity suicides. We have scarcely plumbed the depths of lib's irrationality.
    I'm sorry I'm so unbalanced and crazy in my criticism on Trump. His trade wars and antagonizing of our allies is completely benign, and if unchecked, won't have any impact on our economy.

    When it comes to politics and global affairs you've abandoned rationality a long time ago. That's ok, a lot of conservatives are doing that these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    I'm sorry I'm so unbalanced and crazy in my criticism on Trump. His trade wars and antagonizing of our allies is completely benign, and if unchecked, won't have any impact on our economy.

    When it comes to politics and global affairs you've abandoned rationality a long time ago. That's ok, a lot of conservatives are doing that these days.

    A Senior White House Official Defines the Trump Doctrine: ‘We’re America, Bitch’
    The president believes that the United States owes nothing to anyone—especially its allies.
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    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-bitch/562511/
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    Cool. Cool. So what part of the pride cycle are we sitting at right now and will I see unmitigated death and sweeping destruction in my lifetime or will that be just my kids?
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    Except Russia. The one country he hasn't threatened with tariffs, called names or banned entry from its citizens. I read Trump threatened to cut off trade with India today.

    What a moron the GOP has saddled this country with. Who needs friends or diplomacy? Great rational choice Vichy conservatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    Except Russia. The one country he hasn't threatened with tariffs, called names or banned entry from its citizens. I read Trump threatened to cut off trade with India today.

    What a moron the GOP has saddled this country with. Who needs friends or diplomacy? Great rational choice Vichy conservatives.
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    You don't think that's Trump's philosophy on international relations? Seems pretty accurate to me. Tell us why you think it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    I'm sorry I'm so unbalanced and crazy.
    No apology necessary. But there are meds available.


    Quote Originally Posted by Commando View Post
    Cool. Cool. So what part of the pride cycle are we sitting at right now and will I see unmitigated death and sweeping destruction in my lifetime or will that be just my kids?
    Nope. Not irrationally melodramatic at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    When it comes to politics and global affairs you've abandoned rationality a long time ago. That's ok, a lot of conservatives are doing that these days.
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    You don't think that's Trump's philosophy on international relations? Seems pretty accurate to me. Tell us why you think it's not.
    A rational approach to global affairs has been absent from the US for some time now. I loved that "iconic" photo of President Trump sitting cross-armed in front of Merkel. The triggered libs decorated it with a high chair and a bowl of spaghetti on President Trump's head. In actuality, it sends a very powerful message to our friends across the pond. We are done footing the NATO bill and paying for the defense of our EU allies. We are done humoring the EU's protectionist trade policies. At the G7, President Trump suggested setting up a free trade zone throughout Europe. Guess who didn't like that idea so much? Yeah, our EU allies. What they want instead is to continue the free ride at our expense. To this, President Trump sits with his arms crossed. America first.

    If Chancellor Merkel doesn't like it, then well... tough! Germany is welcome to take over as the leader of the free world; and Germany is welcome to foot the bill as being the world's police force. (Although some may take exception to permanently stationed German troops and German bases in their countries.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    A rational approach to global affairs has been absent from the US for some time now. I loved that "iconic" photo of President Trump sitting cross-armed in front of Merkel. The triggered libs decorated it with a high chair and a bowl of spaghetti on President Trump's head. In actuality, it sends a very powerful message to our friends across the pond. We are done footing the NATO bill and paying for the defense of our EU allies. We are done humoring the EU's protectionist trade policies. At the G7, President Trump suggested setting up a free trade zone throughout Europe. Guess who didn't like that idea so much? Yeah, our EU allies. What they want instead is to continue the free ride at our expense. To this, President Trump sits with his arms crossed. America first.

    If Chancellor Merkel doesn't like it, then well... tough! Germany is welcome to take over as the leader of the free world; and Germany is welcome to foot the bill as being the world's police force. (Although some may take exception to permanently stationed German troops and German bases in their countries.)
    I doubt any rational person countenances T's approach to foreign affairs, but Frank applauds the typical Democratic approach which is one of capitulation and apologies. Foreign policy is a messy business requiring lots of study and willingness to take hard stands. The last Democrat with sensible foreign policy was probably FDR and maybe JFK could have developed a better sense as he learned from the Bay of Pigs.

    But look at Truman, Carter, Clinton and Obama. None of them were brilliant or particularly successful. Truman gets more credit than he deserves and rode the coattails of FDR, who certainly wasn't perfect but had better sense of details than did Truman. Carter was a disaster, Clinton gave us Somalia and Bosnia. Obama didn't get much right.

    The bar for recent foreign policy successes is set very low. And T is so dumb he may crawl under those lowly standards.

    Contrast the Dems with the GOP. Nixon opened China, a major success, ended the Vietnam War, late but still ended it. Reagan successfully negotiated the end to the Iron Curtain. Bush 1 brought a successful coalition to get Hussain out of Kuwait.

    Not going to rave about Bush 2 as he was mediocre.

    Dems complaining about foreign relations is an effort to divert attention from their own abysmal record. And yet, 45 might pull off a coup if something materializes in the Korean Peninsula. We'll wait and see.
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    Isn't it strange that within a 24-hour period the Trump administration has observed that there's "a special place in hell" for the Canadian prime minister, while speaking glowingly of a North Korean dictator who has brutally starved, murdered and/or imprisoned hundreds of thousands of his own people while threatening the U.S. with nuclear annihilation?

    This sounds snarkier than I intend, but Walter, is this the rational approach to foreign affairs you've been pining for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    Isn't it strange that within a 24-hour period the Trump administration has observed that there's "a special place in hell" for the Canadian prime minister, while speaking glowingly of a North Korean dictator who has brutally starved, murdered and/or imprisoned hundreds of thousands of his own people while threatening the U.S. with nuclear annihilation?

    This sounds snarkier than I intend, but Walter, is this the rational approach to foreign affairs you've been pining for?
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    You would prefer we lob some missiles into NK instead?

    Unlike most suffering from TDS, I totally welcome the peace process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    Isn't it strange that within a 24-hour period the Trump administration has observed that there's "a special place in hell" for the Canadian prime minister, while speaking glowingly of a North Korean dictator who has brutally starved, murdered and/or imprisoned hundreds of thousands of his own people while threatening the U.S. with nuclear annihilation?

    This sounds snarkier than I intend, but Walter, is this the rational approach to foreign affairs you've been pining for?
    About sums it up:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    You would prefer we lob some missiles into NK instead?

    Unlike most suffering from TDS, I totally welcome the peace process.
    Peace is good.

    But this is not consistent with wanting to go stir up some conflict with countries that are friendly to us.

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    this discussion makes me want to shut my nuts in a car door
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    Peace is good. So let's go stir up some conflict with countries who are friendly to us.
    Oh, brother. Canada, France, Germany, et al know which side their bread is buttered on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    this discussion makes me want to shut my nuts in a car door
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    You would prefer we lob some missiles into NK instead?

    Unlike most suffering from TDS, I totally welcome the peace process.
    Calling the current weirdness "the peace process" lends it an undeserved dignity. But sure, it's possible this will end well, although I'm skeptical of the "this is so crazy it just might work" approach to problem solving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    Calling the current weirdness "the peace process" lends it an undeserved dignity. But sure, it's possible this will end well, although I'm skeptical of the "this is so crazy it just might work" approach to problem solving.
    OMG. Ok, whatever, dude. Peace process, peace framework, peace undertaking, peace activity, peace pipe... just LMK what your acceptable term is. I'd hate to offend your dignified sensibilities again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    OMG. Ok, whatever, dude. Peace process, peace framework, peace undertaking, peace activity, peace pipe... just LMK what your acceptable term is. I'd hate to offend your dignified sensibilities again.
    Speaking of taking offense for no reason...

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