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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    I hate it when drug runners throw the large sacks of drugs over the border fence.
    I super hate that! Can you imagine? You're just chillin right under border wall in the middle of the desert and all of a sudden you get hit with a dog food bag of drugs? It's over!!
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    I would very much like to know the answer to that question too. In kind of a reverse Uncle Ted move, OxCoug mentioned on FB that Al Gore immediately contacted the FBI when an anonymous source contacted him with some dirt on George Bush during that campaign. I am not sure what the rules are. Would be nice to have that discussion rather than a bunch of "the dems are worse" crap.
    Charles Krauthammer references this question and seems to be speaking directly to Uncle Ted (and Walter):

    It’s rather pathetic to hear Trump apologists protesting that it’s no big deal because we Americans are always intervening in other people’s elections, and they in ours. You don’t have to go back to the ’40s and ’50s when the CIA intervened in France and Italy to keep the Communists from coming to power. What about the Obama administration’s blatant interference to try to defeat Benjamin Netanyahu in the latest Israeli election? One might even add the work of groups supported by the U.S. during Russian parliamentary elections — the very origin of Vladimir Putin’s deep animus toward Hillary Clinton, then secretary of state, whom he accuses of having orchestrated the opposition.

    This defense is pathetic for two reasons. First, have the Trumpites not been telling us for six months that no collusion ever happened? And now they say: Sure it happened. So what? Everyone does it.

    What’s left of your credibility when you make such a casual about-face?

    Second, no, not everyone does it. It’s one thing to be open to opposition research dug up in Indiana. But not dirt from Russia, a hostile foreign power that has repeatedly invaded its neighbors (Georgia, Crimea, Eastern Ukraine), that buzzes our planes and ships in international waters, that opposes our every move and objective around the globe. Just last week the Kremlin killed additional U.N. sanctions we were looking to impose on North Korea for its ICBM test.

    There is no statute against helping a foreign hostile power meddle in an American election. What Donald Jr. — and Kushner and Manafort — did may not be criminal. But it is not merely stupid. It is also deeply wrong, a fundamental violation of any code of civic honor.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...gled-collusion
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    Of course there was another person attending the Trump Jr. meeting. And of course it was a Russian lobbyist previously accused of hacking.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-t...urce=DDMorning

    Yeah, I'm going to believe that stuff at this level doesn't happen 'all the time'. If so, goodnight America. You had a nice run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Of course there was another person attending the Trump Jr. meeting. And of course it was a Russian lobbyist previously accused of hacking.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-t...urce=DDMorning

    Yeah, I'm going to believe that stuff at this level doesn't happen 'all the time'. If so, goodnight America. You had a nice run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old_gregg View Post
    also, former kgb. but totally normal.
    The house just needs to pass the Russian sanctions bill the Senate passed 98-0 a few weeks ago so it forces Trump to veto it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueK View Post
    The house just needs to pass the Russian sanctions bill the Senate passed 98-0 a few weeks ago so it forces Trump to veto it.
    I think it was 98-2. And he should veto it, unapologetically.

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    “Why Russia is a Hostile Power” is the title of today’s editorial in The Washington Post that seeks to explain why Middle America should embrace the Russophobia of our capital city:

    “Vladimir Putin adheres to a set of values that are antithetical to bedrock American values. He favors spheres of influence over self-determination; corruption over transparency; and repression over democracy.”

    Yet, accommodating a sphere of influence for a great power is exactly what FDR and Churchill did with Stalin, and every president from Truman to George H. W. Bush did with the Soviet Union.

    [...]

    The Post brought up the death in prison of lawyer-activist Sergei Magnitsky in 2009. Under the Magnitsky Act of 2012, Congress voted sanctions on Russia’s elites.

    Yet China’s lone Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Liu Xiaobo, sentenced to 11 years in prison for championing democracy, died Thursday of liver cancer, with police in his hospital room. Communist dictator Xi Jinping, who makes Putin look like Justin Trudeau, would not let the dying man go.

    Will Magnitsky Act sanctions be slammed on China? Don’t bet on it. Too much trade. Congress will do what comes naturally — kowtow. Yet our heroic Senate voted 98-2 to slam new sanctions on Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    I think it was 98-2. And he should veto it, unapologetically.

    <http://buchanan.org/blog/russia-bait...-haters-127344>
    Oh hey look, Pat Buchanan is still a Putin fanboy, and still a kook. Shocker. http://buchanan.org/blog/putin-one-us-6071
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    Oh hey look, Pat Buchanan is still a Putin fanboy, and still a kook. Shocker. http://buchanan.org/blog/putin-one-us-6071
    Holy cow. Bonkers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Not if you're Jewish or Mexican

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    Yeah, we need many more like him!
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    Stay classy Trump administration!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1d98e4a9e387
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
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    This would certainly fit the definition of collusion.

    http://www.gq.com/story/jared-kushne...-investigation
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    This would certainly fit the definition of collusion.

    http://www.gq.com/story/jared-kushne...-investigation
    Not a big deal because we're already into the "collusion is ok" defense.

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    Name the publication wherein you can find the article with this title:

    "Soviet Veteran Who Met With Trump Jr. Is a Master of the Dark Arts"

    a) The NY Times or b) The Quibbler?
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    It bothers me that our country is being led by the Trump family which increasingly appears to be a bunch of doofus stumblebums. Don Jr. has retreated steadily from his original position concerning Russian involvement, but rather than be completely forthcoming, his pattern is to offer a lie or excuse that merely points journalists in the direction of where to dig next (“No Russian contacts with our campaign! Lies! Disgusting!” … “Okay, then no contacts directly with me!” “Well, I never met with Russians!” “Okay, but no information was obtained!” etc.). It now looks like Kushner is subtly trying to throw Donnie under the bus, while both are, for now, steadfastly insisting the Donald never knew of any meeting. Undoubtedly journalists are working on that claim right now.

    It’s defies reason to believe that Drumpf wasn’t aware of the meeting with Russians. I think he knew and was very excited about it. The meeting occurred in Trump Tower while Drumpf was there, though perhaps on a different floor. Does anyone believe Don Jr. and Jared didn’t excitedly tell Dad, “Hey, guess who we’re meeting with tomorrow?” Consider the fact that after Jr. had excitedly arranged the meeting, but hours before the meeting took place, Dad announced a major speech, “We’re going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the Clintons.”

    But for now the Trump family will continue to insist that Trump was shocked, SHOCKED!, to learn there was a meeting going on in his establishment. If Trump, Merkel, Putin, Xi and Un find themselves around a poker table, who would be the first one out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    If Trump, Merkel, Putin, Xi and Un find themselves around a poker table, who would be the first one out?
    Only one of those people actually OWNS casinos, man. The house ALWAYS wins!

    Doofus Stumblebums is a perfect description of this administration. It's probably for the best as I don't think they will do any real damage if they can manage not to get into a war accidentally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    But for now the Trump family will continue to insist that Trump was shocked, SHOCKED!, to learn there was a meeting going on in his establishment. If Trump, Merkel, Putin, Xi and Un find themselves around a poker table, who would be the first one out?
    Too late. Dad has already changed his tune:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    Only one of those people actually OWNS casinos, man. The house ALWAYS wins!

    Doofus Stumblebums is a perfect description of this administration. It's probably for the best as I don't think they will do any real damage if they can manage not to get into a war accidentally.
    That may be difficult to do with McCain, Graham and Shumer chomping at the bit to go to war with Russia. It seems Congress isn't happy without funding a war somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    That may be difficult to do with McCain, Graham and Shumer chomping at the bit to go to war with Russia. It seems Congress isn't happy without funding a war somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    I think it was 98-2. And he should veto it, unapologetically.

    <http://buchanan.org/blog/russia-bait...-haters-127344>
    That's fine. But he should have to defend that policy shift to Congress and to the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    That may be difficult to do with McCain, Graham and Shumer chomping at the bit to go to war with Russia. It seems Congress isn't happy without funding a war somewhere.
    No one is chomping at the bit to get into a war with Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank ryan View Post
    No one is chomping at the bit to get into a war with Russia.
    You sure about that?

    Dems Continue to Rehabilitate and Unify With Bush-Era Neocons

    ONE OF THE most under-discussed yet consequential changes in the American political landscape is the reunion between the Democratic Party and the country’s most extreme and discredited neocons. While the rise of Donald Trump, whom neocons loathe, has accelerated this realignment, it began long before the ascension of Trump and is driven by far more common beliefs than contempt for the current president.

    A newly formed and, by all appearances, well-funded national security advocacy group, devoted to more hawkish U.S. policies toward Russia and other adversaries, provides the most vivid evidence yet of this alliance. Calling itself the Alliance for Securing Democracy, the group describes itself as “a bipartisan, transatlantic initiative” that “will develop comprehensive strategies to defend against, deter, and raise the costs on Russian and other state actors’ efforts to undermine democracy and democratic institutions,” and also “will work to publicly document and expose Vladimir Putin’s ongoing efforts to subvert democracy in the United States and Europe.”

    It is, in fact, the ultimate union of mainstream Democratic foreign policy officials and the world’s most militant, and militaristic, neocons. The group is led by two longtime Washington foreign policy hands, one from the establishment Democratic wing and the other a key figure among leading GOP neocons.

    [...]

    When it came time for Democrats to elevate Putin and Russia into a major theme of the 2016 campaign, and now that their hawkishness toward Moscow is their go-to weapon for attacking Trump, neocons have become their natural ideological allies.

    The song Democrats are now singing about Russia and Putin is one the neocons wrote many years ago, and all of the accompanying rhetorical tactics — accusing those who seek better relations with Moscow of being Putin’s stooges, unpatriotic, of suspect loyalties, etc. — are the ones that have defined the neocons smear campaigns for decades.

    The union of Democrats and neocons is far more than a temporary marriage of convenience designed to bring down a common enemy. As this new policy group illustrates, the union is grounded in widespread ideological agreement on a broad array of foreign policy debates: from Israel to Syria to the Gulf States to Ukraine to Russia.

    [...]

    THE IMPLICATIONS OF this reunion are profound and long-term. Neocons have done far more damage to the U.S., and the world, than any other single group — by a good margin. They were the architects of the invasion of Iraq and the lies that accompanied it, the worldwide torture regime instituted after 9/11, and the general political climate that equated dissent with treason.

    With the full-scale discrediting and collapse of the Bush presidency, these war-loving neocons found themselves marginalized, without any constituency in either party. They were radioactive, confined to speaking at extremist conferences and working with fringe organizations.

    All of that has changed, thanks to the eagerness of Democrats to embrace them, form alliances with them, and thus rehabilitate their reputations and resurrect their power and influence. That leading Democratic Party foreign policy officials are willing to form new Beltway advocacy groups in collaboration with Bill Kristol, Mike Rogers, and Mike Chertoff, join arms with those who caused the invasion of Iraq and tried to launch a bombing campaign against Tehran, has repercussions that will easily survive the Trump presidency.

    Perhaps the most notable fact about the current posture of the establishment wing of the Democratic Party is that one of their favorite, most beloved, and most cited pundits is the same neocon who wrote George W. Bush’s oppressive, bullying and deceitful speeches in 2002 and 2003 about Iraq and the war on terror, and who has churned out some of the most hateful, inflammatory rhetoric over the last decade about Palestinians, immigrants, and Muslims. That Bush propagandist, David Frum, is regularly feted on MSNBC’s liberal programs, has been hired by The Atlantic (where he writes warnings about authoritarianism even though he’s only qualified to write manuals for its implementation), and is treated like a wise and honored statesman by leading Democratic Party organs.
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    So we find out yet another person was in that meeting with DonJr. I'm starting to feel left out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myboynoah View Post
    So we find out yet another person was in that meeting with DonJr. I'm starting to feel left out.
    Fox is probably regretting having don jr interviewed by hannity because now even their viewers are going to know the Trump's are lying about all things Russia.

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    Trump and his boss Putin had another, previously undisclosed meeting at the G20 summit. Business as usual!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40651502
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Too late. Dad has already changed his tune:

    See! I told you!
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