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Why BYU fans apostatized from the LDS Church remain BYU fans
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I'm aware of several former BYU fans who left the church and are no longer BYU fans. In my observation, those that abandon their BYU fanhood in addition to leaving the church most commonly switch their sports allegiance to Utah.
I'm not kidding or trolling. I'm serious. I know several people that have done this.
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Can we all just agree that people who apostatize and then stop cheering for BYU to cheer for Utah are the worst kinds of fans on the planet?"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Flystripper View PostI love you too, man.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostI've seen many Mormons, including a lot of BYU fans, leave the LDS Church. But I've never seen one change his or her sports affiliation. It's indestructible. I doubt electroshock therapy would work. And being a BYU fan is not easy.
Reza Aslan believes religion is all about identity. We all crave and need identity. It's enormously if not all-important to us. Various things make up our identity, and for many people, religion is part of it in varying degrees--sometimes it swallows up all the other factors, as with Islamic radicals and some LDS. I think Aslan is right. Once we lose religion, there are the well-known replacements, or, we lose religion in part or wholly because of those. Partisanship in spectator sports is all about identity. This feature is especially important in college sports, because of the formative experiences there, and we put this college on our resumes and CVs; we can't part with it if we are to remain viable in the secular world. Also, our society is governed by the scientific method, science, and education is therefore all-important--this is the ethos which is inexorably annihilating religion. As a result, BYU sports fan identity is a lot more durable than LDS Church membership.
Of all BYU fans, I love and embrace my apostate brothers and sisters the most. They show us that loving your college sports team is essentially an immutable characteristic."Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostCan we all just agree that people who apostatize and then stop cheering for BYU to cheer for Utah are the worst kinds of people on the planet?"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View PostI'm aware of several former BYU fans who left the church and are no longer BYU fans. In my observation, those that abandon their BYU fanhood in addition to leaving the church most commonly switch their sports allegiance to Utah.
I'm not kidding or trolling. I'm serious. I know several people that have done this.“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
"All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostCan we all just agree that people who apostatize and then stop cheering for BYU to cheer for Utah are the worst kinds of fans on the planet?"I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
- Goatnapper'96
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Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View PostI know 3 people that fit this pattern. 2 are not BYU alumni and one is."Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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Originally posted by Omaha 680 View PostIt's ok because you were born that way.“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
"All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel
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Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View PostI know 3 people that fit this pattern. 2 are not BYU alumni and one is.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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All of my apostatizing friends remain diehard Cougar fans, but then most of us grew up in Provo and went to school there.
My mother woke us up by singing "Rise and Shout," my parents both worked there and my father has his own dedicated room at the Wilk. I'm not going anywhere no matter how I feel about the institution or the church. I am an alumnus of the school with 4 titles in the last seven years and still when I think of football it's the Cougars.
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